Posted on 03/26/2013 10:05:42 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
Today the Supreme Court heard oral arguments for about 80 minutes in Hollingsworth v. Perry, which is the lawsuit regarding California's Proposition 8. Two gay couples brought suit on the grounds that the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment prohibits the State of California from defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman.
Since the State of California refuses to defend Proposition 8, opponents of gay marriage sought to enforce it in Hollingsworth v. Perry. Generally, citizens do not have legal standing to enforce laws with which they agree. Several justices expressed doubt that gay marriage opponents have standing in this case.
"I don't think we've ever allowed anything like that," said Chief Justice John Roberts.
"I just wonder if this case was properly granted," said Justice Anthony M. Kennedy
"Why is taking a case now the answer?" asked Justice Sonia Sotomayor.
Addressing the merits of the case, Justice Anthony Kennedy focused on the "imminent injury" to children in California.
"There’s some 40,000 children in California that live with same-sex parents. They want their parents to have full recognition and full status. The voice of those children is important."
Justices Alito and Kennedy raised the possibility that the court is moving too fast to address whether or not same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
"We have five years of information to pose against 2,000 years of history or more," said Justice Anthony Kennedy.
"You want us to step in and assess the effects of this institution, which is newer than cellphones and/or the Internet?" asked Justice Samuel A. Alito.
On the subject of how same-sex marriage harms traditional marriage, Justice Elena Kagan asked, "How does this cause and effect work?"
On the subject of procreation being the state's key interest in the insitution of marriage, Justice Stephen G. Breyer said, "There are lots of people who get married who can’t have children."
Yes. The last “friend” to change his profile pic to the “Equality” logo being dear son who’s about to be disowned. J/K Only about 5 and only 1 of those over 30 y/o jumped on board the equality solidarity gig so far.
I haven’t, but I also don’t go near FB. I created an account for the sole purpose of joining the Free Republic FB group so I could get JimRob’s updates. I like Twitter just fine. I really don’t like FB.
No, conservatives make fun of Roberts and ridicule him not because he’s a fudgepacker but he sided with libtards with his Obamacare decision. Plus he has a dyke cousin..
He deserves every insult he can get and curse him as well..
And let’s not get too comfortable with today’s arguments before the court. The same thing was said after opening day arguments on ObamaCare and we all know the outcome. And all I’ve heard today from the “experts” is how tomorrow they will say DOMA is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and throw marriage back to the states, leaving Prop 8 alone, which means the queer judge that overruled the will of the people has won, sodomite marriage is legal in Cal and to hell with what the people wanted.
Conservatives have over the years since World War II lost on nearly every national issue, except state right to work laws and the failure to ratify ERA. Now marriage and gun ownership is at risk, thanks in large measure to inept Republican primary bvoters and Republican appointees to high office.
When one curses Roberts, does he also curse GWB by implication? And what about Jebbie and George P. waiting in the wings. Republican primary voters get more stupid with each election cycle.
What are you talking about? His lesbian cousin?
I heard it and thought thats what it was about. The justices aren’t talking to the attorneys or the public. They’re talking to each other.
I agree. It’s logically consistent with federalism. It’s a state issue, let the states decide.
Oh Lord. No wonder we have people coming out of the closet. You are opening the door for them. Shut up about who you think are or aren’t. I don’t want to know. I don’t remember you expressing your opinion on this when Roberts was picked by President Bush as a Supreme Court Nominee. Roberts seems like a great family man who is Catholic by the way. I can’t see how you could say such a nasty thing about someone and call yourself Christian or Conservative.
Do conservatives curse Reagan for Sandy O’Connor and BTW, Anthony Kennedy? As much as appreciate RWR, it’s a hard fact that he only got 1 right out of 3. That would be Antonin Scalia.
When conservatives curse GHWB for Souter, do they praise him for Clarence Thomas?
If conservatives curse GWB for Roberts, do they praise him for Alito?
Jebbie and George P need to go away. But if they are waiting in the wings as you say, “stupid” Republican primary voters haven’t caused that. Their names haven’t been on any primary ballots yet, unless it would’ve been back when Jebbie ran and was elected governor of FL and re-elected.
Certainly not on any presidential election ballot.
You rock. That was fast.
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Also, BTW, this is not a Constitutional issue but a States' issue. Let the people of the states decide, like CA did with Proposition 8.
It's one thing to say it's no one's business what two consenting adults do in private. It's completely another thing to say that what we must sanction and support this perversion. It is like a very aggressive disease. It doesn't just stop at "leaving them be." It is virulent. It wants to take over. Maybe for that reason, it should be outlawed completely
I hear you.
What do you think the tea leaf reading (Allahpundit) and SCOTUSblog opinion that 80% chance SC will strike down DOMA?
They WILL strike it down and throw all marriage issues back to the states. Hopefully they will also say that the fag judge had no right overruling the people and reinstate Prop 8.
That would be the only right thing to do.
While they’re at it, demand the tax code reflect their ruling as well. No more deductions and different rates that don’t apply to every one. Either every one has them and pays the same rate or it’s unconstitutional.
They want to destroy marrige then fine, let’s get the government out of favoring either way!!!
I agree with you.
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