Posted on 03/18/2013 9:42:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
The professional begin an election assuming x votes from the base and then decide how to build on that.
What they haven’t yet realized is they have no base anymore. They start with 0 votes every election and every vote has to be earned. Zero Based Electioneering.
We lost our shirt in 2012, and every bit of that loss was due to the GOP-e and the Rockefeller Republicans (who failed to turn out to vote).
I am sure Romney won the Independents ~ that's who he went for. He lost. So much for Independents.
Quote: “There are many more examples of the willfull undermining of conservatives by the establishment types. We must have a big tent, they say, but no conservatives must enter, and should they elbow their way in, they are to be ridiculed and marginalized, as Johnson, Paul, Rubio, Cruz, Lee, etc. are.”
Oh no, they were maligned when they were running but now, suddenly, the RINO’s act like some of these guys are rising stars who the GOPe has been behind all along. I mean, they are kissing Rubio’s arse now but did everything to stop him when he was running against their man Charlie Crist.
Exactly. The RNC ran their perfect candidate, and he ran a pretty decent campaign; at least much better than McCain’s. Romney’s a nice guy, he has the right hair, he’s tall, he’s moderate, he’s qualified, he’s non-threatening, no skeletons in the closet, etc... He still lost because the Republican base stayed home. Out of all that the RNC discerns that they need to reach out more to the middle. Unbelievable, yet totally expected.
You'd think they'd vote for their one of their own crowd but they didn't.
I think this relates to their dispute with the Reagan factions when they didn't pick Rockefeller to run after Ford. It was his turn, of course. Here was a Romney and it was 'his turn' too and they abandoned him out of pique. Same with McCain.
Time to cut that crowd loose.
Well, these people are not stupid. They know conservatives can win, that’s why they never want them nominated. And when they do win despite all the efforts to defeat them, they use them to keep their power and then work to defeat them later. Specter used Santorum to get reelected but then worked to get Santorum defeated. Hatch voted in lockstep with Mike Lee to get reelected. McConnell hired Paul’s campaign manager and is linking himself to Paul on hemp issues, etc. Cornyn is sticking by Cruz. McCain and Graham pulled Kelly Ayotte in with them on foreign policy and Marco Rubio on immigration. The conservatives are the real leaders and they know it.
Make no mistake. Marco Rubio is one of theirs. By birthright, JEB Bush may well be the champion of the elites and establishment in the republican party, but Rubio aspires to have his position. He wants to be one of them.
The GOPe can have him. No way I ever trust Rubio. He is a pretender.
We are rancid with apologists right here on FR that scream ‘traitor’ and question the ‘patriotism’ of anyone refusing to keep empowering our political problem and it’s mad dash to the left.
What we really need is a purge of moderates and liberals from the conservative ranks. Claiming to be conservative and then demanding we accept homosexuality, abortion and a host of other ‘moderate’ positions is not conservative. Nor is campaigning for liberals.
I see Riese is bitching that purity is the problem. Well, the opposite of purity is CORRUPTION. So that is exactly what he’s going to get more of. And he seems good with that.
At this point, anyone willing to support the GOP is every bit the danger to America that the Dems/Libs are. Because they are supporting the same things via the GOP.
Is that really what happened? Moderate Republicans didn’t turn out for Romney? The numbers show that they didn’t vote for Obama in 2012. Why would they not turn out for their ultimate candidate? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m still trying to figure it out.
Republican factions start out with powerhouse church attending Roman Catholics and Southern Baptists! The 'moderate' factions ~ both of them ~ are far smaller, but concentrated!
What other conclusion could they possibly come to?
They are embarrassed by conservatives. They look down on them and consider them to be a bunch of hayseed country ****s. Whereas the DNC openly embraces the most radical Marxists and even promotes them to positions of authority.
But folks round there do want drug profits hyperinflated to tens of billions of dollars and channeled into criminal and terrorist hands as the War on Drugs does?
oh let me guess I think I remember you harping on about making marriage open for what ever and now do you want also to make all drugs legal?
Simple answer yes or no do you want heroin, LSD legal and di you want those who sell those drugs to open their shops anywhere including a school house because in your la la land Govt should nto tell anyone what to do or what they can sell or what they can marry?
Simple yes or no would suffice.
Oh and you are not a conservative you;re a libertarian, libera on social issues so why not go to the liberal conventions or do you as well?
Was bob dole a pure conservative? John mccain? Mitt romney?
Maybe these geniuses should start with those three candidates and analyze what went wrong first before blaming purists whoever they are.
Santorum was a true devotee to Specter, he not only supported him for president in his 1996 run to remove life from the party platform and in all of his elections, but he supported him against Toomey in 2004.
The thing that people DON'T know, is that Santorum was STILL fighting for Specter in the 2010 election, up until when Specter became a democrat. Santorum was a Romney fan in 2008.
And that’s why I couldn’t support Santorum last year. He put one of his senate buddies before the cause. His speech at CPAC last week was very good though.
But folks round there do want drug profits hyperinflated to tens of billions of dollars and channeled into criminal and terrorist hands as the War on Drugs does?
oh let me guess I think I remember you harping on about making marriage open for what ever
You may remember it, but I never said it.
and now do you want also to make all drugs legal?
Simple answer yes or no do you want heroin, LSD legal
Yes - all criminalizing them has done is enrich criminals and put said criminals in charge of keeping them away from kids.
and di you want those who sell those drugs to open their shops anywhere
No, I support local zoning regulations.
The GOP establishment has no core beliefs. Therefore their goal is winning elections, not preserving liberty.
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