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EXCLUSIVE - U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances
Reuters ^ | 3/13/13 | Emily Flitter and Stella Dawson and Mark Hosenball

Posted on 03/13/2013 6:30:59 PM PDT by Evil Slayer

(Reuters) - The Obama administration is drawing up plans to give all U.S. spy agencies full access to a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country, according to a Treasury Department document seen by Reuters.

The proposed plan represents a major step by U.S. intelligence agencies to spot and track down terrorist networks and crime syndicates by bringing together financial databanks, criminal records and military intelligence. The plan, which legal experts say is permissible under U.S. law, is nonetheless likely to trigger intense criticism from privacy advocates.

Financial institutions that operate in the United States are required by law to file reports of "suspicious customer activity," such as large money transfers or unusually structured bank accounts, to Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN).

The Federal Bureau of Investigation already has full access to the database. However, intelligence agencies, such as the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, currently have to make case-by-case requests for information to FinCEN.

The Treasury plan would give spy agencies the ability to analyze more raw financial data than they have ever had before, helping them look for patterns that could reveal attack plots or criminal schemes.

The planning document, dated March 4, shows that the proposal is still in its early stages of development, and it is not known when implementation might begin.

Financial institutions file more than 15 million "suspicious activity reports" every year, according to Treasury. Banks, for instance, are required to report all personal cash transactions exceeding $10,000, as well as suspected incidents of money laundering, loan fraud, computer hacking or counterfeiting.

"For these reports to be of value in detecting money laundering, they must be accessible to law enforcement, counter-terrorism agencies, financial regulators, and the intelligence community," said the Treasury

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; dearleader; fedmob; is; obamasfault; skeeter; sukz; totalitarian; tyranny; watching; you

1 posted on 03/13/2013 6:30:59 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

Elect a socialist?

Sorry —you get a fascist:

Drones, the ammo, the MRAPs, the urban military exercises....IT NEVER ENDS WITH THIS INSECT.


2 posted on 03/13/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Evil Slayer

Time to take the money out and put it under the mattress.


3 posted on 03/13/2013 6:34:26 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Evil Slayer

FinCen has a LOT more than just SARs and financial records.


4 posted on 03/13/2013 6:35:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: gaijin

about to say the same.

He;s not even a socialist, this man is basically a communist or as you say a fascist.

Is this America anyone with all this homosexuals crap, woman in combat units,, letting illegals go, giving guns to Mexican drug lords, going to sleep as Americans are attacked and lying, not letting the people who survived that attack be asked questions, appointing illegal positions.
The list is endless and now going after the right to self defence.

Then the stupid party sits down for dinner , has a meeting and think he;s a good guy again.


5 posted on 03/13/2013 6:38:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Evil Slayer

The Obama regime. Taking Nazism to the next level!


6 posted on 03/13/2013 6:40:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

checking your 410k for loot, err, I mean, revenue.


7 posted on 03/13/2013 6:42:01 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Evil Slayer

I thought American’s finances already had the scours?


8 posted on 03/13/2013 6:47:23 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: PAR35

Yep. Obamacare will open the doors to your banking information even wider. They are ready to slap liens against you and garnish bank accounts if you don’t obey. The man is the devil incarnate.

Interesting fact: In Luke 10:18, Jesus says, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” KJV. The word for lightning is “baraq” in Hebrew. In Aramaic it’s “beraq. In Hebrew, “bamah” is pronounced “U-bamah” or “O-bamah” and is translated literally as “Lightening from the heights.”


9 posted on 03/13/2013 6:47:53 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Evil Slayer

Just perfect. We can’t make a business wire transfer now to some places without it going missing. Missing. By that I mean we send it and find out from the receiver that they didn’t get their money. We trace it and find it has been “held” by the feds. They are waiting to see if someone squawks. Bastards and bastard criminals make us all suspects.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 6:57:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Evil Slayer

To paraphrase a saying from the Vietnam era, “We have to destroy America in order to save it.”

The terrorists are our own government but the destruction will be just as real.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 7:11:12 PM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: jsanders2001

I’ve always thought 0bama may be the antichrist. Those that are more versed in theology than I am say he is not, but he is as close as I want to see.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 7:15:56 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: 21st Century Crusader

Obama isn’t the anti Christ. He is a clown foisted upon us by rich industrialists and the Northeast liberal establishment in order to protect their wealth.

He was raised by communists and taught by criminals. Add in being untouchable because of his race and you have the perfect Manchurian Candidate.

Nothing more, nothing less.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 7:32:27 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Evil Slayer.
...a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country... to spot and track down terrorist networks and crime syndicates by bringing together financial databanks, criminal records and military intelligence.

14 posted on 03/13/2013 7:36:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Evil Slayer
Didn't the Fourth Amendment use to protect us from crap like this? I guess I missed the news that it had been repealed.
15 posted on 03/13/2013 7:45:30 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: Evil Slayer

“U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans’ finances”

CIA and DIA will kill all commie spies who scour Americans’ finances.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:40 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Evil Slayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996500/posts

Not THAT exclusive.


17 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:56 PM PDT by madison10
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To: jsanders2001

Hmmm.... more than interesting.


18 posted on 03/13/2013 7:52:03 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Evil Slayer

And I can still remember the liberals screaming bloody murder over listening in on terrorists calling overseas.

while this admin’s union thugs put their hands in little kids underwear at airports, say they can kill americans with drone strikes anywhere in the world, and now this.


19 posted on 03/13/2013 7:56:46 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: Evil Slayer
yet another amendment bites the dust...

20 posted on 03/13/2013 7:59:31 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: Evil Slayer
Maybe our 'leaders' think on such grandiose levels because we - taxpayers - build palaces for every 'department' in Washington DC.

The grandness of our buildings in DC was valid for men like Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln - but that type of grandness is wasted on the used car salesmen types we send to Washington now...

Time to get real...

21 posted on 03/13/2013 8:07:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Evil Slayer

So somewhere on the planet this hasn’t led to confiscation?


22 posted on 03/13/2013 8:55:35 PM PDT by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Direct cause and effect of universal suffrage


23 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:05 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Evil Slayer

“The proposed plan represents a major step by U.S. intelligence agencies to spot and track down terrorist networks and crime syndicates...”

Obama meaning - all American conservatives.


24 posted on 03/13/2013 10:25:49 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 21st Century Crusader

He’s not the anti-christ, but he’s sure as hell a minion.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 11:04:29 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Being “undocumented” looks pretty damn good right now.


26 posted on 03/14/2013 12:18:12 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SunkenCiv

I feel like Cool Hand Luke and just wish my government would stop being so good to me.


27 posted on 03/14/2013 2:21:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: fatnotlazy
Time to take the money gun out and put it under the mattress.

There, FIXED!

28 posted on 03/14/2013 4:50:15 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: 21st Century Crusader

> I’ve always thought 0bama may be the antichrist. Those that are more versed in theology than I am say he is not, but he is as close as I want to see.

I think that is because there are indications he will have European blood in his veins but many theologists forget BHO’s white blood coursing through his veins where many of the Caucasians originated from


29 posted on 03/14/2013 6:05:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: gaijin
"IT NEVER ENDS WITH THIS INSECT"

LOL! I think that is the inscription on his coat of arms!
30 posted on 03/14/2013 7:14:48 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: 21st Century Crusader
Didn't the Fourth Amendment use to protect us from crap like this? I guess I missed the news that it had been repealed.

The Fourth has been dead [or as close to it as possible] for a while; the recent USSC ruling that "police dog = search warrant" was merely holding the pillow over the face. -- The War on Drugs has always been deleterious of the fourth, and with the TSA the government has been conditioning people to sit-down-and-shut-up. In fact, TSA was a brilliant (even if utterly evil) piece of work: they conduct Fourth Amendment violations as a mater of routine and anybody who dissents is silenced... usually by their fellow citizens.

31 posted on 03/14/2013 9:44:54 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Rome2000
Direct cause and effect of universal suffrage

Universal Suffrage means that we spread the suffering around to everybody, right?

32 posted on 03/14/2013 9:46:33 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: gaijin

Fascism is socialism with snappier uniforms.


33 posted on 03/14/2013 9:48:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Evil Slayer

They need this for obamacare
More here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2904309/posts?page=49#49

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34 posted on 03/14/2013 11:31:38 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: OneWingedShark
Universal Suffrage is giving all citizens the right to vote via Constitutional Amendment in direct contradiction to the intent and warnings of the Founding Fathers.

They intentionally did not put a right to vote into the Constitution because they knew that the sovereign States should determine who could vote,and that stupid lazy demented parasites in particular should be banned from the polls.

In fact and to this day, there has not been an amendment passed that would prohibit a state from disenfranchising any resident who is on welfare or who collects unemployment for a ridiculous amount of time.

The ball is in the court of states like Texas and Idaho and the Dakotas to lead.

35 posted on 03/14/2013 9:53:46 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Rome2000
Universal Suffrage is giving all citizens the right to vote via Constitutional Amendment in direct contradiction to the intent and warnings of the Founding Fathers.

*sigh* -- I suppose I should have included a sarc-tag or smiley.

At the first the system was set up so that landowners and those paying a poll-tax could vote; under the assumption that only those paying into the system should vote. Then that requirement was dropped and it was open to men, which was not in itself a bad thing -- it had the effect of giving all the heads-of-household a say in the system. But by allowing women to vote (universal suffrage) there was a de-focusing of familial-responsibility and refocusing on the individual (not even responsibility, just the individual), it is that which has allowed for the development of ever encroaching federal government via social programs (just look at the extortion-power wielded by merely suggesting that Social Security won't be paid out).

36 posted on 03/14/2013 11:28:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Mommy Goverment. Outstanding point.


37 posted on 03/14/2013 11:32:33 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: gaijin

When Bush pushed the Patriot Act lots of conservatives said “If you haven’t done anything wrong why should you worry?” Every thing you listed is just one reason why everyone should have worried.


38 posted on 03/15/2013 8:44:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: jsanders2001

If he’s not the AC then why is almost every politician from every party afraid of him?


39 posted on 03/15/2013 8:49:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: 21st Century Crusader

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
The fourth amendment has been lost down the memory hole.

And of course the lesson from the ANIMAL FARM, all animals are equal but pigs are more equal.


40 posted on 03/17/2013 7:44:40 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: GOPJ

“...but that type of grandness is wasted on the used car salesmen types we send to Washington now...”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

That comparison is very unfair ...to used car salesmen.


41 posted on 03/17/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Rome2000

We should go back to the requirement that used to exist in some places that a voter must be able to demonstrate the ability to read, write and understand the constitution. That requirement for understanding the constitution would eliminate possibly ninety plus percent of Americans including most of our elected officials.


42 posted on 03/17/2013 7:51:31 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Rome2000

Unfortunately, having to demonstrate the ability to understand the constitution would eliminate the majority of the supreme court from voting also, including the current chief justice.


43 posted on 03/17/2013 7:54:14 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Cubs Fan
YES, WHY INDEED !

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44 posted on 03/17/2013 11:48:47 AM PDT by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: Terry Mross
There could be more to this than meets the eye. Cyprus has just announced plans to demand 10 percent of all citizens’ bank accounts. Think about it — if things get real bad here, they'll have a “leg up” by knowing how much people have. And, of course, all those perpetrating this hoax on the American people will be immune from any kind of scrutiny.
45 posted on 03/17/2013 11:25:25 PM PDT by TiaS
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