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Report says driver in Ohio crash had no license
Yahoo ^ | 3/12/13 | Jesse Washington

Posted on 03/12/2013 12:20:37 PM PDT by raccoonradio

WARREN, Ohio (AP) — The 19-year-old woman behind the wheel of an allegedly stolen SUV when it smacked a guardrail and flipped into a pond, killing six friends, didn't have a valid driver's license, according to a report on the crash released Tuesday.
Two teens who survived the crash told police the woman was speeding and driving recklessly before Sunday's accident.

The State Highway Patrol report said one of the teens told investigators the driver, Alexis Cayson, sped up as she rounded what's known as "Dead Man's Curve." The other teen told a state trooper it felt like the SUV was going 80 mph. Cayson was among those killed along with five boys. Brian Henry, 18, said he told the woman to slow down before the five-passenger Honda Passport, crammed with eight teenagers, sped down a 35-mph road and into the water early Sunday.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: crash; teens; warren

1 posted on 03/12/2013 12:20:37 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

from comments:

—Years back 4 drunk Houston teenagers joy riding a stolen car traveling over 100 mph hit a stopped train at 3 AM. All four died instantly. The parents blamed the accident on an undersized railroad crossing sign. A spokesman for the railroad replied “How could they see a sign if they could not see a train”?

—Stolen vehicle. No license. Speeding. Gonna’ make a Utube video. Kids out having fun.. Drugs???? You spectulate. This is the problem with our children today. NO PARTENTAL CONTROL... Unfortunately this is one of the problems of raising your children with the attitude that “we’re letting them grow and be their own selves. I am very sorry for what happened to these children and to all of their families, but there should be a message here to the rest of the people letting their children be their own selves. Stop with the “time out” crapola and start parenting...

—I’ll admit I did stupid things. But, I never drove 80 in a 35 zone around something called “Dead Man’s Curve” in a stolen SUV with a person that didn’t even have a driver’s license behind the wheel. Sometimes the odds catch up with you.


2 posted on 03/12/2013 12:24:55 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Six members of a protected class, in a stolen vehicle, driven by an unlicensed driver.
3 posted on 03/12/2013 12:25:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: raccoonradio

I’m not shocked.


4 posted on 03/12/2013 12:26:25 PM PDT by novascotianative
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To: raccoonradio

I wondered why the MSM is all over this story, now I know. Stolen vehicle...the occupants knew in my opinion. Yet not what I would do speed up for ‘;dead mans curve”


5 posted on 03/12/2013 12:28:15 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: raccoonradio
And out at 7 am on a Sunday.

Late for church, maybe?

6 posted on 03/12/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: ColdOne

But driver (Alexis Cayson) may have been friends with the daughter of the SUV owner...

http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/mar/12/survivor-recounts-tragedysflb/#comments

from comments:
—How coincidental the guy reports his car stolen a day and a half later. In a previous article, Marquis’ wife in Youngstown, stated he had spent the night at his sisters and this Alexis Cayson was her roommate. It would tend to think it all began there.

—So Marquis Stephenson who was married and had a wife liked hanging out and sleeping at his sisters place. Alexis Cayson who lived with the sister of Marquis Stephenson was driving his SUV. There may have been a relationship between Marquis Stephenson and Alexis Cayson.

—Now we learn that Alexis Cayson, the driver, did not have a valid driver’s license, and may never have had one. She wasn’t wearing a seat belt; none of the occupants were. On her facebook page she describes herself as “silly, like to have fun” with a photo captioned “At Me Now, I’m getting Hater”; she was in a relationship with a Patricio Hijo, who lives in Amsterdam, Holland and who is FB friends with Precious Stephenson, the sister of Marquis Stephenson, the owner of the car he reported stolen a full day after the crash. Was Alexis sexually assaulted that fateful night? Why the excessive speed? Why only teen boys in the car with her? When will this community finally learn the whole truth about this awful tragedy?


7 posted on 03/12/2013 12:32:36 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

also from same page:

—The car wasn’t stolen. The owner doesn’t want to face criminal/civil action for allowing a non licensed driver to take his car. He also wants to be able to get an insurance check. How about (city of )Warren prosecute the owner of the car for filing a false police report and insurance fraud? I hope his insurance agency rejects his claim.


8 posted on 03/12/2013 12:33:50 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
I never drove 80 in a 35 zone around something called “Dead Man’s Curve” in a stolen SUV with a person that didn’t even have a driver’s license behind the wheel.

Anthromorphic fallacy. Of course you didn't. All the people who did those things are no longer around to post. Well, at least 6 out of 8.

9 posted on 03/12/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: raccoonradio

When I was in high school my parents would only let me take one other person at a time in my car and only then with prior permission. I was also not allowed to ride in another kid’s car without prior permission. When I was a senior, a car load of girls from our school was racing a car load of boys. An 18 wheeler pulled out in front of the girl’s car. Our school principal made all of us look at picture of the wreck. Seeing body parts of our classmates among the truck tires is something one never forgets.

My kids probably hated me on occasion but if they said they were going to a friend’s house to spend the night, I always talked with the parents of the friend, sometimes more than once during the night. If something didn’t seem quite right, their father or I would even drive by to make sure their car was there and that everything appeared in order.


10 posted on 03/12/2013 12:38:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: raccoonradio

Is there some basis on which you are suggesting that she may have been sexually assaulted?


11 posted on 03/12/2013 12:40:15 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: raccoonradio
Report says driver in Ohio crash had no license

What does she think she is, an illegal alien?

12 posted on 03/12/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: raccoonradio

According to one commenter “They were just kids out having fun, not kids into gangs, no drugs involved,” Williamson said. “They’re just kids doing what we all did at one time.”

So the parents of these kids stole cars and drove them around like idiots too?

Also “Everyone described Andrique, Brandon and Ramone as typical teens. They weren’t into crime or drugs. They were lovers of music, video games and sports.” I guess they WERE into crime since they all got in a stolen car.

Sometimes these parents (if you can call them that) are just as ignorant as the children. They raise thugs who steal and do criminal things but according to their parents “they are good chillin who do no wrong”.

Well mom and (if they had one) pop, you lost your kids because you let them be raised by Snoop Dog and gangbanging ideas.

When will the black members of society understand that you have to keep your kids on a tight leash until they are old enough and smart enough to avoid people who steal cars and do drugs. That includes banning harmful movies and music. It might not make you popular with your kids, but you’re not supposed to be their buddy, you’re supposed to help guide them through life so they have a long and successful one.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: NEMDF

Not me; I was quoting one of the comments in the article. Mostly I was pointing out car owner may have known the driver and perhaps the car wasn’t “stolen” after all


14 posted on 03/12/2013 12:41:09 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Well, the last thing I remember, Doc, I started to swerve
And then I saw the Jag slide into the curve
I know I’ll never forget that horrible sight
I guess I found out for myself that everyone was right
Won’t come back from Dead Man’s Curve


15 posted on 03/12/2013 12:46:06 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: raccoonradio

That wont stop the greedy plaintiff lawyers from suing the taxpayers.


16 posted on 03/12/2013 12:58:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: History Repeats
“They were just kids out having fun, not kids into gangs, no drugs involved,” Williamson said. “They’re just kids doing what we all did at one time.”

I could even buy into some of that. Unlicenced Driver? Been there. 8 kids in a car? I dunno, but probably done that.

Car Stolen/Borrowed? Hmmmmmm.....starting to break down here.

And, at 7am on a Sunday? That's where it falls apart, IMHO. 10am says "chuch". 1am says "Out too late doing stupid things".

7am says "Allnighter". Which nothing good can come out of, especially at age 14 or 15....

17 posted on 03/12/2013 1:19:52 PM PDT by wbill
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To: raccoonradio

“The State Highway Patrol report said one of the teens told investigators the driver, Alexis Cayson, sped up as she rounded what’s known as “Dead Man’s Curve.””

It evidently also works on chicks.


18 posted on 03/12/2013 1:51:07 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: raccoonradio

You forgot to mention in a stolen car.


19 posted on 03/12/2013 2:26:12 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: wideawake
Six members of a protected class, in a stolen vehicle, driven by an unlicensed driver.

Of course, it's somebody else's fault.

They were just getting their lives turned around.
They just went to church with their grandma.
They were working on their G.E.D...

20 posted on 03/12/2013 2:27:52 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: raccoonradio

Might be denied since he filed the false report. Stupid thing is, it would have been covered otherwise (assuming he has collision) as you can give anyone permission to drive - even if they’re unlicensed. Now, keeping your policy after that may be a different issue.


21 posted on 03/12/2013 2:48:58 PM PDT by mykroar (Sig is pending a Conservative party.)
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To: ColdOne
The 19-year-old woman behind the wheel of an allegedly stolen SUV

I suspect the vehicle wasn't stolen but rather loaned to the driver. In an attempt to cover his own ass for loaning it to an unlicensed driver, he now says it was stolen......but what do I know.

22 posted on 03/12/2013 2:55:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: History Repeats

The car wasn’t stolen. The scumbag who gave the car to the kids to use is only saying that now in order to get an insurance check.


23 posted on 03/12/2013 2:57:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: mykroar

I think the problem the SUV owner is going to have is that he is besmirching the reputation of all the kids. Just read this thread and see all the references to “car thieves”, etc. Somebody in one of those kids’ families is going to finally get p.o.’d enough to speak up.


24 posted on 03/12/2013 3:00:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: raccoonradio

You might add.....IN A STOLEN CAR!!!!


25 posted on 03/12/2013 3:26:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: raccoonradio

We had a horrible accident here in NJ a few years back where kids in a Jeep hit something like an abutment, causing several of them to fly out into the opposing fast lane, where they were quickly hit and killed by oncoming traffic. They weren’t wearing seatbelts.

I was fortunate in having a friend that worked as a dispatcher at a towing yard; you see those wrecks, and you won’t drive five blocks to the store without your seatbelt. Hair caught in the front grill of a car, brain matter in the bed of a pickup, it is disgusting but scares the heck out of you.


26 posted on 03/12/2013 3:44:44 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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I remember reading a story once about a van that had 5-6 teens in it. One passenger got out, and the other kids and the van were never seen again. This was in 1979.

Nearly 20 years later, they discovered the van, upside down in some lake. The bodies, now skeletons were still inside. Some of the skeletons were still wearing the now rotten clothing.

Really creeped me out. Imagine knowing your child was down there all those years.

27 posted on 03/12/2013 4:44:40 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: kearnyirish2
five blocks to the store without your seatbelt

My parents both rode an ambulance for 14 years. They're fond of saying that they never unbuckled a seatbelt from a body.

28 posted on 03/13/2013 5:44:36 AM PDT by wbill
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To: boop

“Really creeped me out. Imagine knowing your child was down there all those years.”

I agree, but in the end they had closure. I’d rather know in the end.

We had a horrible accident in Newark along a major roadway (not a highway) where some women went off the road into the Passaic River. They were speaking to a 911 dispatcher as the car filled with water, and they all drowned; the dispatcher couldn’t figure out where they were.


29 posted on 03/13/2013 7:45:09 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Ann Archy

Pointing out that the car was stolen would be racist, don’cha know.


30 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wbill

“They’re fond of saying that they never unbuckled a seatbelt from a body.”

That’s worth repeating; anyone too ignorant to use one will use the rare example of when it hindered someone’s escape from a car, but for the most part anyone who doesn’t use it is a fool. I just see too many bad drivers around, and any one of them could smash you at 70 mph, tossing you out of your car.


31 posted on 03/13/2013 7:54:39 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: wbill

I did EMS in high school. Seat belts really did save people. It sure beat slamming your head into the windshield.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 8:07:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: raccoonradio

More “Amish gone wild”.
Seems to be an epidemic these days.


33 posted on 03/13/2013 8:14:03 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: kearnyirish2
Yep, if you stay in the car, then the CAR absorbs the impact. Outside of the car, YOU absorb the impact.

Their philosophy is about the same when it comes to car sizes, as well. In general, and within reason, bigger is better.

I may not pay attention to everything that my parents tell me, but after they've cleaned up who knows how many 10-55s over the years, I listen to their advice on that particular topic.

34 posted on 03/13/2013 8:38:35 AM PDT by wbill
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