Posted on 02/24/2013 4:01:18 AM PST by Kaslin
So many 'youngers' simply do not understand nutrition. Raised by parents who fed them the convenience of fast, processed foods or dinner from a box, and by mis-guided FDA guidelines that fat in food is bad, they have simply not developed an appreciation for the real pleasure of real foods.
So they eat sugar, carbs, GM corn and trans-fats. PopTarts for breakfast, McDs for lunch and a nice box of Mac and Cheese for dinner. No wonder we have obesity and diabetes at record levels.
Kind of an idiotic article.
Government policies aren’t driving Jewish delis out of business, since such policies don’t have any specific aspects that target this category of restaurant vs. others.
IOW, if consumers are spending about as much money total at restaurants as last year, which is presumably true, then declining business at Jewish delis is the result of changing consumer preferences, not government policies, too much competition, or anything else.
I get very tired of these claims that taxation, etc. burdens small business and drives them out of business. Businesses primarily collect taxes, not pay them.
When a cost, such as a tax or regulation, goes up, a business raises prices to recoup the additional cost and maintain profit margins. Unless consumers refuse to pay the additional cost, or more often because competitive businesses are not subject to that cost for one reason or another, the business is unaffected.
Assume a state that had previously not had sales tax on groceries and puts it in. Suddenly the grocery’s cost goes up by 7%. Does it somehow absorb that cost or pay it out of profits? Of course not, it just goes onto the bill to the customer.
Unless people stop eating as much, which would be good for most of them, the grocery’s business and profits are unaffected. There are some marginal impacts, mostly to groceries near the state line, who will lose some business to stores across the border who still don’t charge sales tax. But they’re minor.
I’m still brooding about the lose of coffee shops in NYC - the kind that used to put up with Jackie Mason for hours on end. The Polish Tearoom seems to be the last of them...
Well looks like a lot of the 18 -24 Jewish youths that voted for Obama have put their dads out of business.../s
Jewish delis are closing in both Los Angeles, and New York City.
“...younger consumers dont understand delis and comfort food.
I don’t see how my generation (66+) have lived so long on TASTY FOOD and actually enjoyed the trip and survived.
Sometimes I wake up at night (slobbering all over myself) and remember the dream I just had about eating a delicious Ruben sandwich at a Jewish deli. I’m not talking about a “chain” or large deli but about a small Ma & Pop deli.
Too bad we don’t have anything like that here in South Texas. I guess I’ll have to go up north again to experience the atmosphere while attacking the delicacy up there.
More people a getting interested in the local food option theese days which is a very good thing. It generally cost more but it is upfront pricing in that it isn't highly subsidized like corn an soy beans and it costs less from a health care standpoint because of its better nutritional value.
Controlling food is essential to controlling the people. And I believe that's what 's going on. It is the Gulag principle. We have the 2nd ammendment, but if we're too weak to pull the trigger, what use is it?
Actually the food prices and everything else are going up in the stores because of the high gas prices. We need to get rid of Ethanol or at least the one made from corn
I am curious why you think our choices are being restricted as to what we eat.
You can still eat a 1950s diet if you choose. What used to be called staples are still available at the store, though you have to look for them since their shelf space is WAY down. Just take the staples home and cook them up.
We have, as a people, chosen to go for fast, convenient options over inexpensive and healthy ones. That’s not a government plot to control us, it’s just our own poor choices. As a group, not individuals.
Food is often less expensive than ever before in history. You can buy 50 pounds of rice for <$20. You can easily eat for a month on 50 pounds of rice. Not particularly enjoyably, but it provides plenty of calories.
BTW, in the grocery yesterday I saw frozen peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. LOL
...guess what the LA Times article about the delis completely ignored? The impact of government policy on small businesses. Nowhere did it reference the expansive and onerous mandates placed upon business via Obamacare, the impact on business owners of the President's payroll tax hike, or his income tax increases on rich people. No, the LA Times apparently wasnt interested in how the President's income tax hikes have taken money away from what the I.R.S. designates as Subchapter S Corporations (sometimes abbreviated as S-corps), and how this has effectively taken money directly out of small corporations, many of which operate small businesses. Likewise, the article made no reference to the fact California voters approved an increase in state income tax rates for rich people (thus leading to even less revenue in Subchapter-S Corporations) on their ballot last November, nor did it acknowledge that California has for years been on a trajectory of higher and higher unemployment insurance and workers' compensation mandates for businesses.
After living in NY and NYC and in Europe and then in the South and beyond, my observation is that Americans do nopt care at all about good food.
In laws willl aften say, hey you New Yorkers, whenever you get together all you talk about is food.
True. And the obesity I find around those who eat just to eat and don’t know anything about good food, just quantity and fat an sugar, are the obese people, generally speaking, of course.
The fact that delis don’t exist in the South and beyond, says everything I need to know about appreciation for food.
I know a guy, gone now, who was a deli owner, whose son attended an Ivy league school and went on to become an amazing succes, as well.
Took care of his parents in their later years, as they took care of him in his younger years.
If delis go out of business, it’ll tell me more about confusion of family priorities and expectations of young people and vocational choices.
But delis are a staple of and a corner stone of soem micro cultures in this country.
German, Jewish, and Italian - see “Moonstruck”.
Like Buck says to Mularkey, in Band of Brothers, as he’s trying to create a stew, “what do you know about cooking? You’re Irish.”
Maybe not much, but we know about goood food and where to get it.
It is a thing often spoken about around here.
That is pathetic!
The acceptance of the premise that families can be raised and communities can thrive without mom being aroind (home) as a rule and not an exception, is the problem there.
Why buy from a deli when you can get it at Walmart or Ingles?
Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. Whats the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day. To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/2013/02/11-states-with-more-people-on-welfare-than-employed/
The last time I looked up the number, the farmgate price of the raw commodities amounted to fourteen cents on the dollar on the typical American's grocery bill. AND Americans are paying less than seven percent of disposable income on food prepared at home. About 40 percent of our food dollars are spent eating out, but the combined total is still less than ten percent of disposable income, the lowest figure in the world. These percentages have been trending downwards for years, except for the proportion of food eaten away from home, which has risen over time. Again, convenience, and food as a service.
Food is an incredible bargain.
The biggest cost driver in your grocery bill is labor. I have no problem with this; grocery stores are labor intensive, but they give me 24/7 access to an astonishing global food chain, and I am happy to pay for this. Plus, I have many alternatives if I want to eat cheaper, so the market functions. The second biggest cost factor in food is energy. Team Obama hasn't yet demanded that farmers run combines with windmills, but at the rate we're going, that'll come in the next four years.
If Americans DID care about good food, franchises like Old Country Buffet would never exist. I shudder when I think about the food at those places.
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