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Bones Under Parking Lot Belonged to Richard III
NY Times ^ | February 4, 2013 | JOHN F. BURNS

Posted on 02/08/2013 7:24:29 PM PST by neverdem

Until it was discovered beneath a city parking lot last fall, the skeleton had lain unmarked, and unmourned, for more than 500 years. Friars fearful of the men who slew him...

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Dr. King said tests conducted at three laboratories in England and France had found that the descendants’ mitochondrial DNA, a genetic element inherited through the maternal line of descent, matched that extracted from the parking lot skeleton. She said all three samples belonged to a type of mitochondrial DNA that is carried by only 1 to 2 percent of the English population, a rare enough group to satisfy the project team, pending more work on the samples, that a match had been found.

When she studied the results for the first time, she said, she “went very quiet, then did a little dance around the laboratory.”

Even before the DNA findings came in, team members said, evidence pointed conclusively at the remains as being those of the king. These included confirmation that the body was that of a slight, slender man in his late 20s or early 30s — Richard was 32 at his death — and an analysis of his bones that showed that his high-protein diet had been rich in meat and marine fish, characteristic of a privileged life in the 15th century.

Also strongly indicative, they said, was the radiocarbon dating of two rib bones that showed that they were those of somebody who died between 1455 and 1540. In addition, team members said, the remains showed an array of injuries consistent with historical accounts of the fatal blows Richard III suffered on the battlefield, and other blows he was likely to have sustained after death from vengeful soldiers of the army of Henry Tudor, the Bosworth victor, who succeeded Richard as King Henry VII...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: United Kingdom
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H/T firebrand!
1 posted on 02/08/2013 7:24:40 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Bones Under Parking Lot Belonged to Richard III

Oh, please -- they didn't even have parking lots in his time! ;)

2 posted on 02/08/2013 7:31:22 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Did they validate his ticket? I mean, the fees for being parked in a lot for 500 years, forget about it.

That’s a lotta pocket change.


3 posted on 02/08/2013 7:35:49 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: neverdem

One day you’re the King of England, and pretty soon, somebody parks a Yugo on you.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 7:42:27 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: neverdem

“My kingdom for a parking lot.”


5 posted on 02/08/2013 7:42:48 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: F15Eagle

LOL

If he drove his wife’s, they’ll probably Ceasar car to pay the tab!


6 posted on 02/08/2013 7:43:15 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: F15Eagle

Jay Leno thought they were confused, and
last night said that it was actually Keith Richards.

7 posted on 02/08/2013 7:43:26 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Still Thinking; Diogenesis

You are great men of science.

I believe this man still weighs more than a duck, sooooo .....


8 posted on 02/08/2013 7:46:21 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: TBP

I believe that should be

“My kingdom for a parking spot.”


9 posted on 02/08/2013 7:48:14 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

This news is like a week old. Why are they still posting it?


10 posted on 02/08/2013 7:55:00 PM PST by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: neverdem

He’s still dead today then is he?


11 posted on 02/08/2013 7:56:28 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: neverdem; a fool in paradise

Dude died like a hero guarding his parking spot!


12 posted on 02/08/2013 7:57:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: neverdem; a fool in paradise

Let’s post it again!


13 posted on 02/08/2013 7:58:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: huckfillary

To enrich the minds of those that happen to miss it the first time around?


14 posted on 02/08/2013 8:01:27 PM PST by doc1019
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To: huckfillary

Most likely hoping for his parking spot.

After all, he’s held it for a long time now.

Must be a good spot.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 8:04:13 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: neverdem

keep digging. Maybe thyll find Jimmy Hoffa next?


16 posted on 02/08/2013 8:05:21 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Diogenesis

I’m no archaeologist, but his teeth look British ...


17 posted on 02/08/2013 8:10:11 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: neverdem

So he was a valet on the side?


18 posted on 02/08/2013 8:42:05 PM PST by deadrock
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To: neverdem
"My parking spot for a horse!"
19 posted on 02/08/2013 8:45:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Richard III song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6JczvS1PL4


20 posted on 02/08/2013 9:03:37 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: neverdem

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985057/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985168/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2985169/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985185/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985336/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2985766/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2986388/posts


21 posted on 02/08/2013 9:22:47 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: blueunicorn6

Yeah, right? Could have at least parked a Rolls Royce over him. After all he was a king.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 9:31:53 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: blueunicorn6

“One day you’re the King of England, and pretty soon, somebody parks a Yugo on you.”

LOL.Very good. I like you sense of humor!


23 posted on 02/09/2013 2:37:06 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

Web searches still don’t tell me if he got a good spot. Did find out what happened to his feet;

http://www.examiner.com/list/why-were-king-richard-s-feet-missing-king-richard-s-gruesome-wounds-listed/king-richard-iii-s-missing-feet


24 posted on 02/09/2013 2:53:54 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: doc1019
To enrich the minds of those that happen to miss it the first time around?

Sure, if you are counting that first post from 12/29/2012. "Body Under British Parking Lot May Be King Richard III"

But I also see a post on 1/31, six on 2/4, one on the 7th, one on the 8th, and this one on the 9th.

If you missed it the first TEN times around, you probably aren't going to get it the 11th.

25 posted on 02/09/2013 8:20:52 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: doc1019; huckfillary; T. P. Pole; jjotto

This particular news story is a re-post, but as doc1019 pointed out, some must have missed it the first time around, but obviously it is of interest to at least ten people. :') Thanks jjotto for the additional links. This has been going on for a while, but the DNA tests have just gotten some results. Now the fight is over where the remains of this murdered king (he didn't die in battle per se, the men of a household supposedly allied with him were in the employ of the usurper, surrounded him, pulled him from his horse, and stabbed him to death on the ground) will be given a proper burial. His descendants want him buried at Yorkshire, Yorkshire refuses and wants him buried at Leicester, Leicester doesn't want him there...
26 posted on 02/09/2013 9:45:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: doc1019

Then why not bump an existing thread? have an answer to that? Don’t tell me you don’t know!

I’ll tell you. There is a class of thread starters here who consider it some kind of great achievement to start threads come hell or hail, and I would bet that they each keep a count of these great accomplishments like they are Nobel Prizes in Physics. Considering that this story must have been published by a 1,000 English language newspapers across the globe, we can expect as many as 990 more threads about this negligible event started by these fools.


27 posted on 02/09/2013 9:58:11 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
re: Class of thread starters - I used to feel the same way about email-forwarders. Let me tell you something, if you got an email, that has been forwarded a dozen times, and each forward had a dozen names, you can be pretty sure everyone in your contact list has seen it already.

Do you remember the days of the Drudge multiple posts? It became embarrassing when it became obvious that much of what Drudge got was stuff FR was talking about for weeks already.

But, in the race to be the supreme thread-starter, folks tend to ignore the concept that if it is something interesting to them (assuming them to be a real conservative) then it is likely already being discussed here, and a search might be in order.

Unless you are afraid that the time it takes to do a search will prevent you from being the first poster of this weeks-old story.

28 posted on 02/09/2013 12:56:00 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole; doc1019; huckfillary; jjotto; Revolting cat!; firebrand; SunkenCiv; Coleus
But, in the race to be the supreme thread-starter, folks tend to ignore the concept that if it is something interesting to them (assuming them to be a real conservative) then it is likely already being discussed here, and a search might be in order.

Well I think I'm pretty conservative, and I'm also a physician. The only other thread that uses "high protein diet" contracted into the keyword highproteindiet is the following link.

Half-Ton Mexican Man Loses 200 Pounds

"These included confirmation that the body was that of a slight, slender man in his late 20s or early 30s — Richard was 32 at his death — and an analysis of his bones that showed that his high-protein diet had been rich in meat and marine fish, characteristic of a privileged life in the 15th century.

"Also strongly indicative, they said, was the radiocarbon dating of two rib bones that showed that they were those of somebody who died between 1455 and 1540."

Dietary Protein: An Essential Nutrient For Bone Health

I had already posted Richard III body found under Leicester car park.

It had the same radio carbon dating range between 1455 and 1540, but it didn't mention diet or protein.

I also read It IS Richard III: Scientists reveal DNA results confirm 15th century king's body has been found under a car park in Leicester.

It had a different radiocarbon dating range, "sometime between 1485 and 1550." It made no comments about protein or diet.

There's a method to my madness.

29 posted on 02/09/2013 4:02:30 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I noticed the keyword, and had a good laugh. It was clearly related to the content of the article, and, I’m on a low-carb high protein diet.


30 posted on 02/09/2013 4:42:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: neverdem; Revolting cat!

It’s my fault. I raved about the NYTimes piece. It really was very good and presented a lot of fascinating (to me) facts that were not in the others. I put the link on neverdem’s thread but I think it was worth posting again by neverdem for those reasons. The reporter was really there when the press was allowed in to see the remains and did not pick everything up from the science journals or the news wires.

I’m looking forward to reading the follow-up stories.


31 posted on 02/09/2013 9:18:12 PM PST by firebrand
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks again, neverdem.

Either I forgot or it was deleted.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 8:20:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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