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Searchers struggle to pick up trail of former Los Angeles cop wanted in killing spree
Fox News ^ | 2/8/13 | ap

Posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:28 PM PST by carriage_hill

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To: carriage_hill
If one fugitive LA LEO cab evade capture of hundreds, and possibly thousands of fed/state/counnty/local, the question becomes how long can US Vets, "survivalists" & "prepper" and other determined 2nd Amendment Patriots, last, set double-back blind traps qnd lethal/non-lethal traps to delay and 'disable' the putsuiing force?

 
In 1998 three heavily armed "survivalists" came out of the Four Corners canyons in a stolen truck,
 murdered a policeman--and eluded an epic manhunt.
 
Hunting Badger is a fictionalized story of that cluster-kerfunkle.

101 posted on 02/09/2013 4:05:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: meadsjn
If he took along a couple of full garbage bags, it'd look like a muzzie family out for a stroll. LOL.


102 posted on 02/09/2013 4:11:28 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

(returning Vets are dangerous)...

http://www.halmansfield.com/Portals/12/writing/NonFiction/MANHUNT_CLOSED.htm


103 posted on 02/09/2013 4:11:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sacajaweau
I'd say he's in Vegas by now....where most of the town are strangers.

If he's there; the facial recognition software tied into the security cameras will pick him up.

104 posted on 02/09/2013 4:13:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
He likely put a motorcycle in his truck, and dropped it off a distance away from where he burned the truck, hoofed over to it, and rode away. If he really did a good job, the fire was set with a simple timing device when he was already a goodly distance away.

I like the way you think!

We have IDIOTS blowing up houses in Indianapolis!

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/indy-explosion/3-suspects-in-richmond-hill-explosion-to-appear-in-court

105 posted on 02/09/2013 4:17:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ladyjane
Our laws, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights - only so much useless paper.

Oh?

The cops DO have a right to protect themselves from a potential deadly threat.

106 posted on 02/09/2013 4:19:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
Best for him to stay where he is the only one carrying concealed weapons.

Yeah, sure...

107 posted on 02/09/2013 4:20:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jiggyboy; EQAndyBuzz
I believe I saw this movie. Wasn’t it called Rambo?

What DIFFERENCE does it make NOW?

108 posted on 02/09/2013 4:22:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OKSooner

Is there now a BOUNTY?

WANTED: Dead or Alive


109 posted on 02/09/2013 4:23:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheBigJ
Besides the .50 cal Barrett which is formidable, I believe he has sound suppressors? He probably has some explosives as well like homemade IED’s perhaps, several vehicles bought cash stashed in overnight lots.

How well does Fed-Ex screen their packages?

110 posted on 02/09/2013 4:25:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
But if he’s in a car, no one knows what he’s driving.

Around here, there are cameras on LOTS of traffic lights; looking DIRECTLY into the front window.

111 posted on 02/09/2013 4:28:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: holyscroller

http://www.bigheadcaps.com/

That guy’s head is huge!


112 posted on 02/09/2013 4:29:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 21twelve
I liked the part where this master criminal assassin dropped his briefcase and badge.

And it was an accident.

Wasn't it.


WASN'T it!!!!

113 posted on 02/09/2013 4:31:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I thought you said your dog does not BITE!


114 posted on 02/09/2013 4:34:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Spktyr

This was my thought as well...


115 posted on 02/09/2013 4:37:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BenLurkin

“Drone strikes would start the very first week.”

Drone strikes? Burned-out pickup truck? Could have already
started.


116 posted on 02/09/2013 4:38:17 AM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: USAF80

But...

...does he have a baseball and glove?


117 posted on 02/09/2013 4:38:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
This is dangerous stuff when the perpetrators start purposely going after the families of the LEOs or Gov’t officials.

But you can be sure that the MSM will only report it if wronged People resort to it and will ignore/bury it when the government does it to the People.

118 posted on 02/09/2013 4:40:40 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: SisterK

This seasoned Vet is a black man. He will not be used by this administration except to take down the LAPD white boys (if there are any). The guy’s manifesto stated extreme prejudice, but considering his response, I think he has some unresolved issues. Don’t forget the Ft Hood shooter who is also a veteran.


119 posted on 02/09/2013 4:54:18 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: trebb
This just in!!!

Perp spotted in CANCUN!!!



120 posted on 02/09/2013 4:55:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: huldah1776
Don’t forget the Ft Hood shooter who is also a veteran.

Why not?

We've forgotten he's a MUSLIM!!!

121 posted on 02/09/2013 4:56:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Then he's not there. I'd make a terribke runaway!

I'm now inclined to think he is behind his stalkers....not ahead of them...He's become the watcher....

122 posted on 02/09/2013 4:57:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: paratrooper82

Isn’t he a Muslim as well?


123 posted on 02/09/2013 5:12:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Elsie; AnAmericanAbroad; Dr. Pritchett; carriage_hill; PGalt

Things are worse than previously suspected.

“Dorner served in the Naval Reserves, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He served in a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units...”

A “naval undersea warfare unit” could mean anything from a Mobile Inshore Undersea Warfare Unit (MIUWU) to several other type units, to the SEALs.

I doubt it is the former, because in his manifesto he mentioned “small arms training, demolition, ordinance(sic) and survival training”. This raises estimates of his potential lethality by 10x.

If it includes an ability to access and use helicopters or fixed wing aircraft, 100x.

While it has not been stated as such, there are indications that he might have some degree of PTSD, though officially he only served in Bahrain in 2006 and 2007, that was likely just his assigned duty station. Navy personnel were used extensively in Iraq as infantry and in other combat roles.


124 posted on 02/09/2013 5:16:26 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Slambat
Drone strikes? Burned-out pickup truck? Could have already started.

Wow!

That thought hadn't even occurred to me yet.

I forgot that under this administration we have to start thinking the unthinkable.

125 posted on 02/09/2013 5:18:09 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: 21twelve

The LA times reported that “ a citizen reported finding property belonging to Dorner on a street near Lindbergh Field, not far from the scene of the attempted boat theft. The property included a briefcase and Dorner’s LAPD badge.”

My question is how can an LAPD officer fired in 2008 still have a LAPD badge? Something is really fishy here. What is the evidence that Dorner did any of the things they say he has done? They say he is wanted in connection with these crimes, but where is the proof that he is the one who committed them?

They will be bringing out the drones, no doubt. This will be an excellent example of the current US policy of drone strikes on citizens without due process.


126 posted on 02/09/2013 5:29:01 AM PST by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The LEOs definitely sound scared, and after what they did to those 2 mistaken pick-up trucks yesterday, no one’s safe (relative term) until that Dorner guy is room temp, and the cops just go back to shooting family dogs (sadly).


127 posted on 02/09/2013 5:36:36 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Elsie

LOL!


128 posted on 02/09/2013 5:37:20 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Mexican authorities planted a MANPAD, tracable back to Benghazi, in the vicinity of Dormer.


129 posted on 02/09/2013 5:38:19 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Elsie

This one?

http://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Badger-Tony-Hillerman/dp/0061967823


130 posted on 02/09/2013 5:40:11 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: carriage_hill
Good morning.

Methinks this guy planned everything for a long time. From hidden weapons caches, different modes of transportation, target selection to ambush sites. Probably has some SERE training too.

This will probably go on a long time, and if he has any force multipliers, the casualty list will grow quickly. He will kill again, and won't be taken alive.

5.56mm

131 posted on 02/09/2013 5:46:34 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: carriage_hill

Yup!

Tony was an EXCELLENT writer; able to capture the essense of the southwest in such a way that I can remember the smell of the rain upon the rocks as he wrote about it!

I’ve read everything he’s put out!

RIP, Tony!


132 posted on 02/09/2013 6:37:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
pbing to above
133 posted on 02/09/2013 6:38:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Ogden Standard Exaggerator News Today
134 posted on 02/09/2013 6:51:56 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie

Got all my guns loaded and ready.


135 posted on 02/09/2013 6:56:59 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Conservative4Ever


136 posted on 02/09/2013 7:03:05 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: PuzzledInTX

LA police dept said he did them.... They can say anything they want, as they go around murdering, or trying to murder, innocent people in pick-up trucks.


137 posted on 02/09/2013 7:09:08 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: 21twelve; GeronL

How do you know he dropped it?

I don’t think he’s a nutcase either. If he was, he would have shot the old man out of simple anger. But he didn’t.

I’m not saying he is right. But until ALL information is out you should not jump to conclusions.

Look at what the LAPD just did. SHOT 2 LADIES delivering newspapers. Upthread, someone stated they shot at 2 trucks (I did not hear about the 2nd).

He named names. Is anyone investigating his claims? Perhaps if they did, his killing spree would stop.

But of course they won’t because it just may expose the LAPD for what he claims is going on.

He mentions his girl partner, using excessive force on a mentally ill “perp”. This girl, if I remember correctly, was also cited for excessive force a couple of times.


138 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:34 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Elsie
Is there now a BOUNTY?

WANTED: Dead or Alive

They do NOT want him alive.

NOT NOT NOT NOT

Alive means a trial.

A trial will shine entirely too much daylight on LAPD's culture.

Although Our Gay in Washington may want to break the back of local law enforcement the better to instal his federal National Civilian Community Corps (the NatCs) the LAPD does not.

139 posted on 02/09/2013 7:53:16 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: PuzzledInTX
My question is how can an LAPD officer fired in 2008 still have a LAPD badge?

The same way I have souvenir badges from most places I've worked, even though I diligently turned one in at the end of each job.

140 posted on 02/09/2013 7:58:42 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Cvengr
Wouldn’t it be ironic if Mexican authorities planted a MANPAD, tracable back to Benghazi, in the vicinity of Dormer.

¿Rápido y Furioso?

They could definitely place the MANPAD, but the authorities who track the serial numbers will never report the connection to the public.

Nice shot across the bow to The Usurper, though...

141 posted on 02/09/2013 8:03:13 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Elsie; carriage_hill; Red Badger

Hunting Badger by Tony Hillerman is hereby added to my reading list.


142 posted on 02/09/2013 8:07:28 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I don’t think he’s a nutcase either. If he was, he would have shot the old man out of simple anger. But he didn’t.

*shrug* I think he is a nutcase, but he is a very bright and calculating nutcase. Shooting the old guy wouldn't fit his plan as the old guy needed to be alive to plant the "He's going to Mexico" meme.

He's doing everything he can to dilute, distract and tie down LEO resources.

He's crazy, not stupid, and probably wronged as well.

143 posted on 02/09/2013 8:13:43 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: null and void
Our GUY in Washington. FR really needs an edit function.
144 posted on 02/09/2013 8:15:31 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Chode

If he got out before the storm there is a spider web of 4WD roads N.E. of the lake. He could get into the desert or even Arrowhead without the main highway and his tracks are now covered by snow.


145 posted on 02/09/2013 8:43:00 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Elsie
The cops DO have a right to protect themselves from a potential deadly threat.

Shooting unarmed people in the back? Emptying their weapons on an unseen target? Three unarmed victims so far -

You wouldn't be a cop by any chance, would you?

146 posted on 02/09/2013 8:56:14 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: null and void

Our “guy” in Washington IS gay!


147 posted on 02/09/2013 9:05:44 AM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: M Kehoe

Good morning. I think you’re right: this isn’t going to be over anytime soon or end well, for anyone else.


148 posted on 02/09/2013 9:06:28 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Mike Darancette
General Winter has his back
149 posted on 02/09/2013 9:14:19 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2111USMC

*shrug*


150 posted on 02/09/2013 9:21:53 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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