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Searchers struggle to pick up trail of former Los Angeles cop wanted in killing spree
Fox News ^ | 2/8/13 | ap

Posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:28 PM PST by carriage_hill

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If one fugitive LA LEO cab evade capture of hundreds, and possibly thousands of fed/state/counnty/local, the question becomes how long can US Vets, "survivalists" & "prepper" and other determined 2nd Amendment Patriots, last, set double-back blind traps qnd lethal/non-lethal traps to delay and 'disable' the putsuiing force?

Just wonderin.

1 posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:42 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: carriage_hill

Wasn’t his police career ended before he became a naval officer? That’s what I don’t get.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 5:30:19 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: carriage_hill
Hhmmm...There was a ski rack on top of his vehicle. He may know the area pretty well.
3 posted on 02/08/2013 5:32:28 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: carriage_hill

It’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that he will eat his gun rather than be taken alive.

The only question is: How many more will he take out with him?


4 posted on 02/08/2013 5:33:11 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: carriage_hill

I Think he is on special assignment from the Obama administration to further the cause of gun control


5 posted on 02/08/2013 5:35:50 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: carriage_hill

“If one fugitive LA LEO... the question becomes how long can US Vets, “survivalists” & “prepper” and other determined 2nd Amendment Patriots, last....”

;-)


6 posted on 02/08/2013 5:37:10 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: carriage_hill
do they really really want to catch him?.....afterall, he's a bama fanatic and a black racist.....he's practically a hero to the left...

that young woman and her boyfriend are just collateral damage, per the SLA...

7 posted on 02/08/2013 5:38:01 PM PST by cherry
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To: SisterK
he's an overweight black guy in the SNOW......

but honestly, he's probably far away and snickering at the cops....

9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:50 PM PST by cherry
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To: lightman
The only question is: How many more will he take out with him?

Me thinks he's going to get away, enter "never let a good crisis go to waste" Rhambo.

Seriously, this guy is a a seasoned vet, obama is going to use this to further his marxist agenda (returning Vets are dangerous)...just wait.

10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:43:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: carriage_hill
Can we correct this title? How about the truth for once: “LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT SUPPORTING LA COP!” There, fixed it!
11 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:01 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: carriage_hill
where ever he is, it ain't Big Bear... and he's laughing
12 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:14 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

He’s likely stalking his next target even as I type this.

If he’s methodical and careful, I foresee many police funerals in the weeks ahead.

If not, then I certainly foresee his funeral in the days ahead. Time will tell.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:57 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Chode
where ever he is, it ain't Big Bear... and he's laughing

That thought crossed my mind too.

14 posted on 02/08/2013 5:51:00 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: carriage_hill

My ears also perked up at this quote: “On Sunday, police say Dorner shot and killed a couple in a parking garage at their condominium in Irvine. The woman was the daughter of a retired police captain who had represented Dorner in the disciplinary proceedings that led to his firing.”

This is dangerous stuff when the perpetrators start purposely going after the families of the LEOs or Gov’t officials.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 5:51:11 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: cherry
Did the weather conditions have anything to do with his spree?? How far ahead did he prepare for this? Burning the truck was obviously for a purpose....and likely kept everyone close by, rather than spuring them to push forward.

I'd say he's in Vegas by now....where most of the town are strangers.

16 posted on 02/08/2013 5:52:58 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Dr. Pritchett
This is dangerous stuff when the perpetrators start purposely going after the families of the LEOs or Gov’t officials.

Not unlike how Soetoro,Inc, keeps a bunch of DC pols in line, in my opinion.

17 posted on 02/08/2013 5:53:59 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: andyk

That’s the way I read it.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 5:54:14 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: carriage_hill

I believe I saw this movie. Wasn’t it called Rambo?


19 posted on 02/08/2013 5:54:29 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: al baby

Could be and in the end they will take him out with a drone and a lot of the sheeple will think that is a good thing. We are being conditioned.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 5:55:21 PM PST by Josephat
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To: cherry

Well, he would show up in stark contrast if he were an overweight black NAKED guy in the snow....
When I dress up for freezing weather, there is not a whole heck of a lot of skin showing: Sometimes I dress up like the Michelin Man (with 47 layers of clothes) and you can’t even tell I am a girl, let alone what color....
But I agree with you - He probably isn’t settling permanently there.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 5:55:55 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: cherry

They’re going to kill him on-sight; he’s got too much to tell about the internal corruption and crime in LAPD.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 5:56:06 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: BerryDingle

He’s gone from Black Bear, waiting with an ambush at a new place of his choosing.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 5:58:17 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Las Vegas Ron is correct:
“this guy is a a seasoned vet, obama is going to use this to further his marxist agenda (returning Vets are dangerous)...”


24 posted on 02/08/2013 5:58:25 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: carriage_hill

Drone strikes would start the very first week.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 5:58:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: carriage_hill

I suspect he is not within a hundred miles of there right now. He likely put a motorcycle in his truck, and dropped it off a distance away from where he burned the truck, hoofed over to it, and rode away. If he really did a good job, the fire was set with a simple timing device when he was already a goodly distance away.

His best bet is actually to go back to Los Angeles, find a nice foreclosed home among a lot of other foreclosed homes, and set up a low profile squat, only going out at night.

From that he could choose to lay low, or go hunting.

A much bigger problem that might come about right now is when criminals realize that now is a great time to get revenge on the LAPD, by assassination, figuring he will get blamed for it.

It would benefit them both, and since he is a “kill on sight” target right now, as soon as he is nailed, who’s to say he didn’t do it?


26 posted on 02/08/2013 5:59:55 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: carriage_hill
No question about that. He's a dead man walking and he knows it himself. The question how many will he take out and for how long beforehe's finally taken out himself?
27 posted on 02/08/2013 6:00:14 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: BenLurkin

They’re load ordnance, Google Geo-Typo Maps, infrared and more, to make sure they *get him* before he disappears for 2-3 days again. Kill some family dogs along the way, just to keep in practice.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 6:03:08 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
No question about that. He's a dead man walking and he knows it himself. The question how many will he take out and for how long beforehe's finally taken out himself?

Our laws, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights - only so much useless paper.

29 posted on 02/08/2013 6:03:25 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Who knows? Maybe he already has a foreclosed home already prepped out. A few months of non-perishable foodstuffs, ammo and weapons, and he’s good to go.

Dorner’s been planning this. For awhile. This isn’t just some Charles Whitman kind of scenario.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 6:04:46 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

As many as he can. This is his S&D Op.


31 posted on 02/08/2013 6:06:57 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
absolutely...
32 posted on 02/08/2013 6:07:14 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: carriage_hill

What makes Dorner so dangerous is that he’s willing to target the family members of those who’ve apparently earned his ire. For instance, the unfortunate young woman who was killed on Sunday. The daughter of a police captain.

And heaven help anyone, especially a cop, who gets in his way. He’ll blow them away without a moment’s hesitation.


33 posted on 02/08/2013 6:12:41 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Safest for him to stay in CA. The gun control laws get much weaker the further he gets from home... NV, AZ, TX. Best for him to stay where he is the only one carrying concealed weapons.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 6:15:23 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

DC Shooter/Sniper ‘MO’ comes to mind, until they catch him. SWAT AR-10/.308, suppressor, Leupold Glass and 500 rounds would keep him busy terrifying the area.


35 posted on 02/08/2013 6:15:28 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Oh that’s not new my good man. They are the first from the 40 LAPD officers explicitly named on his list.


36 posted on 02/08/2013 6:15:40 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I believe I saw this movie. Wasn’t it called Rambo?

Yes. Susan Rice will be on Meet The Press on Sunday blaming its director, who will be seen in split-screen being led away in handcuffs.

37 posted on 02/08/2013 6:17:19 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: carriage_hill

I hope some citizen catches him moving and caps him with an ‘06.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 6:17:44 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: carriage_hill

It’s been rumored he may also have a .50 caliber sniper rifle as well as a MANPADS. Again, that’s straight-up rumor, which isn’t surprising given the situation. But damn, if he’s got that, L.A. is gonna be an interesting town! The cops are gonna be even more hair-trigger and jumpy.


39 posted on 02/08/2013 6:19:15 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I believe that what you state is part of his manifesto.
40 posted on 02/08/2013 6:21:01 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: elpinta

Yeah, it is. He’s essentially declared war on the LAPD, and in his book, family members of the people who’ve angered him aren’t considered non-combatants. He’s already proved that.


41 posted on 02/08/2013 6:24:01 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: OKSooner
I hope some citizen catches him moving and caps him with an ‘06.

And if it were a conservative fugitive you would wish that also? Is that the kind of world you wish to live in?

42 posted on 02/08/2013 6:24:13 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: SisterK

Wait a minute, you were wearing what now?


43 posted on 02/08/2013 6:30:33 PM PST by mirkwood (project gutenberg)
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To: Sacajaweau

I believe his plea to the court of appeals ran out sometime in 2011 after several years of fighting to get his job back. He’s had quite some time to plan for this.

After he hit the couple, time goes by and he shoots n scoots guerrilla fashion 2 different groups of police same day, taking advantage of element of surprise before the lockdown.

My opinion? His trek to San Diego “attempting” to grab a boat and his burned vehicle left 150 miles away are to spread out law enforcement resources. He’s back in L.A. hiding in the urban jungle. He’s waging an effective psy-ops and terror war. I read 40 police or so protecting each individual listed in his manifesto, so how many police guarding the family members? He’ll probably wait it out for some time with supplies stored, watch as the LAPD showcase violating people’s rights and shoot at innocents. Then strike at police support personal at their homes. Besides the .50 cal Barrett which is formidable, I believe he has sound suppressors? He probably has some explosives as well like homemade IED’s perhaps, several vehicles bought cash stashed in overnight lots.


44 posted on 02/08/2013 6:31:24 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Chode

He probably had a motorcycle staged for his departure from Big Bear and is probably in the desert now. Plenty of desert to get lost in. He’ll wait a couple weeks or until his food/water supply runs out then come back to the city, unrecognized by anyone as he will be wearing a motorcycle helmet.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 6:32:46 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: carriage_hill
He’s gone from Black Bear, waiting with an ambush at a new place of his choosing.

I think that it will end in this manner, but I'm not sure that this will be next. I think he will kill some more officers in a "random" hit. As officers close in on him, I think he will draw them into an ambush situation and try to take as many with him as he can.

46 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:10 PM PST by CASchack
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To: ladyjane

he’s a cold-blooded murderer.

Nobody said to kill him because he praised Obama in his manifesto.


47 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:41 PM PST by digger48
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To: carriage_hill

“...the question becomes how long can US Vets, “survivalists” & “prepper” and other determined 2nd Amendment Patriots, last...”

A lonnnngggggg frickin’ time.


48 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:18 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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time is on his side... for him, the longer he waits the better
49 posted on 02/08/2013 6:39:37 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TheBigJ

I agree with your assessment. I would add that what he might also do is pop up from time to time with a random cop shooting as part of his “asymmetric warfare” campaign.

I mentioned on another thread regarding the subject that he might also have multiple ID’s. It’s not that hard to get them in L.A., especially on Alvorado near MacArthur Park, and the quality is damned good. I used to live around there for awhile in the late 90s, and you get all set up for about $500.

He was a cop - I’m pretty sure he’d know about this angle.


50 posted on 02/08/2013 6:40:02 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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