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California's state Senate Democrats roll out big gun control package (Considering to Confiscate)
Mercury News ^ | Updated: 02/08/2013 10:47:40 AM PST | Josh Richman

Posted on 02/08/2013 11:45:22 AM PST by Red Steel

All semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines would be banned, all guns would be registered and no ammunition could be bought without a special permit in California under a sweeping list of bills rolled out Thursday by state Senate Democrats.

The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation's strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state's 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.

This first unified California plan comes less than a month after New York adopted its own sweeping package of new gun controls and President Barack Obama announced a package of executive actions, all in the wake of December's Connecticut schoolhouse massacre. Even as this plan emerged Thursday, House Democrats' gun violence task force was announcing 15 "policy principles," including protecting Second Amendment rights but also instituting universal background checks and reinstating a federal assault weapons ban.

"We respect the Second Amendment right of law-abiding citizens to have guns for hunting, for sport,

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proliferation of guns designed to be fired and reloaded rapidly," he said. "We can save lives by getting guns and ammunition out of the hands of the wrong people. We can save lives if every gun owner knows how to safely handle those guns. And if we can save lives, we must act to do so."

Gene Hoffman of Redwood City, co-founder and chairman of the Calguns Foundation gun rights group, countered that "almost every item in the proposal is wildly unconstitutional."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; communism; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guncontrol; liberalfascism; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: DuncanWaring
There are a lot of blue areas that I’m not aware of being particularly violent (Vermont and the Lake Tahoe area) and red areas that are hell-holes (St. Louis and Milwaukee).

I noticed that yesterday when I first saw that chart posted on another thread.

For instance, tiny, rural Alpine County on the California/Nevada border (just south of Lake Tahoe) is shown in blue as having a high gun violence problem. There are only 1,175 people in the entire county which is very rural. I can recall only one instance of a crime committed there when someone traveling through the area committed some crime four or five years ago.

Just a few years ago the Los Angeles Times did a story on Alpine County calling it the safest, most crime free county in all of California.

121 posted on 02/10/2013 9:44:28 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I was thinking you would know; should have pinged you.


122 posted on 02/10/2013 10:23:22 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: yorkiemom

How unfortunate for you, as that’s why air conditioning was invented and that’s where all the jobs are...


123 posted on 02/10/2013 11:29:43 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Steel
Go for it California! Gun-owners will NOT do anything if you confiscate weapons. Don't be intimidated by gun owners! Go get 'em!
124 posted on 02/10/2013 11:56:13 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Karliner
The writing is on the wall...

It has been for a long time.

125 posted on 02/10/2013 12:05:31 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Spktyr
How unfortunate for you, as that’s why air conditioning was invented and that’s where all the jobs are...

An odd defensive comment.

I like being outside, for one. And there are jobs all over the place. In fact, Texas power plant jobs pay really poorly compared to elsewhere.

One thing I really didnt like was the arrogant attitude of some Texans. I wasn't going to be rude and mention it, but you've pointed it out for all quite well.
126 posted on 02/10/2013 1:42:14 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Spktyr

Sorry, I should’ve said that. Even in response to your incorrect and defensive comment.


127 posted on 02/10/2013 1:49:48 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Spktyr

I mean, should NOT have said that.

I was referring to my sister and her husband - they are two of the most arrogant people I’ve ever met. And their egos are inflated because they make a ton of money. And they look down their noses at anyone not in their ‘social bracket’ - a term they use often - or anyone not living in Texas. But they are not the only ones I’ve met like that.

There ARE 56 other states, all with pros and cons.

I just wish the independent-minded states were in the middle of the country. But I’ve surmised that the rugged individualists in places like Texas, Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana are in those places because of the difficult weather, not in spite of it.

But with economic collapse in our future (or at least inflation making heating/cooling expensive), I prefer to be on the cold side. And love splitting and stacking wood as well. My destination needs to be above the 37 degree lattitude line.


128 posted on 02/10/2013 2:24:38 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

Your only other option, then, is North Dakota. Seriously, there are only two states that have net job growth right now - and that’s Texas and North Dakota. There aren’t any other options at the moment.


129 posted on 02/10/2013 3:25:33 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Your only other option, then, is North Dakota. Seriously, there are only two states that have net job growth right now - and that’s Texas and North Dakota. There aren’t any other options at the moment.

True. Is Texas still doing well with the oil industry? I know her tax structure for companies is great, so many are attracted there.

All we need is one opening, not an entire slew of them ;) Of course, the best option is a growing economy based on conservative principles to ensure prosperity for the future.
130 posted on 02/10/2013 3:32:19 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

The oil business is doing well for the on-shore component. The Eagle Ford shale play is still ongoing, for example, at a ridiculous rate.

But, since you’ve ruled out Texas, well... guess it’s North Dakota, then. That or the other ‘growth center’ - go to DC and work for the government.


131 posted on 02/10/2013 4:26:56 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: yorkiemom

It should also be pointed out that Texas does not depend on the oil business - and since the last oil bust, Texas has been frantically diversifying its economy to ride out any future catastrophes of that type. Today’s Texas economy is well balanced between tech, manufacturing, energy, medical and agricultural sectors (among others). It isn’t dependent on oil and farming any more.


132 posted on 02/10/2013 4:30:42 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: OldArmy52
The USA has fallen.

I am convinced that you are correct. And what a shame it is. As I have often commented on FR, I consider myself one of the luckiest people on Earth. I was fortunate enough to grow up (I came of age in the 1950s) in a great country that offered a person fantastic freedoms and great opportunities. Now, it has come to this. What a crying shame.

133 posted on 02/10/2013 5:25:31 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yesm since that kings knees knocked together and his bowels were sorta loosed and Cyrus entered the building. Nice username!


134 posted on 02/10/2013 8:11:57 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Spktyr
But, since you’ve ruled out Texas, well... guess it’s North Dakota, then. That or the other ‘growth center’ - go to DC and work for the government.

No need to be snotty about it. Just because I don't want to live where you live is NOT a personal statement about you. You can take it that way if you wish, but there is no need to do so.
135 posted on 02/10/2013 10:22:54 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: pickyourpoison
Reloading supplies are getting scarce. Bullets can be molded from wheel weights in small quantities. Primers are difficult to produce. Consistent smokeless powder is a problem too. Black powder can be manufactured, but isn't nearly as safe to handle as modern smokeless propellants. There is also a matter of being licensed and insured as an ammo manufacturer. The rules differ when it is offered for sale vs loaded for personal use.
136 posted on 02/10/2013 10:29:22 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Spktyr
It should also be pointed out that Texas does not depend on the oil business - and since the last oil bust, Texas has been frantically diversifying its economy to ride out any future catastrophes of that type. Today’s Texas economy is well balanced between tech, manufacturing, energy, medical and agricultural sectors (among others). It isn’t dependent on oil and farming any more.

Very smart. She's also clever - I think - about electrical production. All done in-house with nary a grid going in or out of the state. And costs are kept low as well. (Not great for the workers, but awesome for the consumers - which IS capitalism, after all.)
137 posted on 02/10/2013 10:30:02 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: OldPossum
I am convinced that you are correct. And what a shame it is. As I have often commented on FR, I consider myself one of the luckiest people on Earth. I was fortunate enough to grow up (I came of age in the 1950s) in a great country that offered a person fantastic freedoms and great opportunities. Now, it has come to this. What a crying shame.

Our best days are long gone. And we're not passing onto the next generation anything close to what we got. I always wished I was born earlier and got to live when you did-I'm an older soul longing for the good old days that I never did get to see.
138 posted on 02/10/2013 10:32:43 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Red Steel

“and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.”

Well, this is certainly a good time to invest in the funeral home industry in California.


139 posted on 02/10/2013 10:32:50 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Spktyr
But, since you’ve ruled out Texas, well... guess it’s North Dakota, then. That or the other ‘growth center’ - go to DC and work for the government.

These are not the only states with jobs available. But thanks for the idea. You forgot to mention wefare, food stamps, and Obamacare as Plan C.
140 posted on 02/10/2013 10:34:41 PM PST by yorkiemom
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