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Researchers Just Dug Up A Half-Million-Year-Old Human Jawbone
TBI - Live Science ^ | 2-7-2013 | Tia Ghose

Posted on 02/07/2013 4:04:53 PM PST by blam

Researchers Just Dug Up A Half-Million-Year-Old Human Jawbone

Tia Ghose, LiveScience
February, 2013

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An ancient hominin jawbone unearthed in a Serbian cave may be more than half a million years old.

Scientists have unearthed a jawbone from an ancient human ancestor in a cave in Serbia.

The jawbone, which may have come from an ancient Homo erectus or a primitive-looking Neanderthal precursor, is more than 397,000 years old, and possibly more than 525,000 years old. The fossil, described today (Feb. 6) in the journal PLOS ONE, is the oldest hominin fossil found in this region of Europe, and may change the view that Neanderthals, our closest extinct human relatives, evolved throughout Europe around that time.

"It comes from an area where we basically don't have anything that is known and well- published," said study co-author Mirjana Roksandic, a bioarchaeologist from the University of Winnipeg in Canada. "Now we have something to start constructing a picture of what's happening in this part of Europe at that time."

Cave diggers

In 2000, Roksandic and her colleagues began excavating a cave in Balanica, Serbia, that contained ancient archaeological remains. While they were away, rogue diggers secretly dug a deeper pit within the cave, hoping to do their own excavations. Because the site had already been disturbed, the team then decided to probe deeper below the pit's bottom, Roksandic told LiveScience. [In Photos: Our Closest Human Relatives]

About 5.9 inches (15 centimeters) below the surface the team found an ancient jawbone fragment with three molars still intact.

Using several dating techniques, the team determined the fragment was definitely older than 397,000 years and perhaps older than 525,000 years.

The jawbone lacked several characteristic Neanderthal features, including distinctive chewing surfaces on the teeth that show up in Western

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KEYWORDS: ancestors; balanica; fossils; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; homoerectus; jawbone; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; serbia

1 posted on 02/07/2013 4:05:05 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Stranger In A New Land

Image: JOHN GURCHE PORTRAIT OF A PIONEER With a brain half the size of a modern one and a brow reminiscent of Homo habilis, this hominid is one of the most primitive members of our genus on record. Paleoartist John Gurche reconstructed this 1.75-million-year-old explorer from a nearly complete teenage H. erectus skull and associated mandible found in Dmanisi in the Republic of Georgia. The background figures derive from two partial crania recovered at the site.

2 posted on 02/07/2013 4:08:42 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Date stamped on the back of the neck? /monty python


3 posted on 02/07/2013 4:10:57 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle
Date stamped on the back of the neck? /monty python

I wondered how they knew so quick.

4 posted on 02/07/2013 4:13:29 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: blam

“may change”

I wish I had a nickle for every time I have seen those words from the ‘scientific’ community. I would be SO rich.


5 posted on 02/07/2013 4:16:45 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: blam

Those teeth are in better shape & outnumber those belonging to numerous rednecks!


6 posted on 02/07/2013 4:21:48 PM PST by Smittie
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To: blam

IB4HTP


7 posted on 02/07/2013 4:23:02 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts

LOL


8 posted on 02/07/2013 4:25:23 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: blam

Hey! Helen Thomas wasn’t through using it yet!


9 posted on 02/07/2013 4:34:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: F15Eagle
Date stamped on the back of the neck?

No, "electron spin resonance combined with uranium series isotopic analysis, and infrared/post-infrared luminescence dating...using a thermal ionization mass spectrometer equipped with a secondary electron multiplier."

10 posted on 02/07/2013 4:35:26 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: blam

They don’t seem real clear on what it is other than a human jawbone. So, how do they know it’s human?


11 posted on 02/07/2013 4:41:57 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: mountainlion

Cause of death was found to be the Piranah Brothers.


12 posted on 02/07/2013 4:42:03 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

hominin jawbone, not human.

Because they went to school for 10 years to learn how to identify fragmentary fossils?


13 posted on 02/07/2013 4:45:54 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: KrisKrinkle

“They don’t seem real clear on what it is other than a human jawbone. So, how do they know it’s human?”

They don’t... What makes a human a human is not in the bones. It’s the soul or at the very, least the brain. Who’s to say that this animal did not have the reasoning of a monkey? The skeleton could have “evolved” hundreds of thousands of years ahead of the brain. I suspect that the brain evolved to human six thousand years ago...


14 posted on 02/07/2013 4:50:45 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Here’s the problem with relying on press releases and non-specialist websites and the MSM for science information

The headline doesn’t match the article, or the scientific paper by the discoverers.

It’s a “hominin” jawbone, like human. But some idiot at LiveScience put “human” in the headline.


15 posted on 02/07/2013 4:53:00 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: babygene

Jawbone of an Ass


16 posted on 02/07/2013 4:59:50 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: blam

The teeth appear to be incredibly well preserved! The enamel still appears to reflect light.


17 posted on 02/07/2013 5:04:06 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: blam

It belonged to Sen.Barbara Boxer and it was still moving when they found it.


18 posted on 02/07/2013 5:04:22 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Strategerist; SunkenCiv
Extinct Humans

It's time for a hominid family reunion, and anthropologists Ian Tattersall and Jeffrey Schwartz have brought the scrapbook. Extinct Humans is both an album of knowledge of our ancestors and closely related species and a theoretical reconsideration of the fossil evidence. Tattersall and Schwartz suggest that many more human species existed than we previously thought, and that many of them existed contemporaneously until about 25,000 years ago. Profusely illustrated, the book makes its case well, showing and discussing the evidence and proposing a family history that pulls all the fossils and theories together into a testable whole. The authors have personally investigated every available hominid specimen, and the depth of their knowledge is staggering at times--but their obsession is enlightening and entertaining.

19 posted on 02/07/2013 5:05:04 PM PST by blam
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To: Smittie

So, while the skull was discovered in the Republic of Georgia, it could not have been found in the State of West Virginia.


20 posted on 02/07/2013 5:07:12 PM PST by FredZarguna (These are the End Times for Dewey Crowe!)
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To: JoeProBono

That is what I get hit with every time my worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) starts to speak.


21 posted on 02/07/2013 5:42:42 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: blam

Alternate headline: “Helen Thomas’ Dentures Found!”


22 posted on 02/07/2013 5:51:33 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: blam

Thanks blam, ordering that one today.


23 posted on 02/07/2013 7:47:03 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: MestaMachine
Adam and Eve were created mature adults

I believe they were in what we would consider their 30's.

That's my opinion and belief.

24 posted on 02/07/2013 8:39:40 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: KrisKrinkle
They don’t seem real clear on what it is other than a human jawbone. So, how do they know it’s human?

What's the difference, both animal and human were created on the same day 6000 years ago.

25 posted on 02/08/2013 6:25:48 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Perhaps not.

There is an ignorance bias in the number 6000. Recent studies extend the date to 6053 years. There is also some uncertainty in the number of months and days in the last year.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 6:43:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

So, now I’m disappointed. A couple other FReepers mentioned her, but no one actually posted the picture.

Well...OK...I’m not *that* disappointed.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts

If she’s not burned into you mind after one exposure, why risk it? ;)


28 posted on 02/08/2013 3:52:43 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: blam
Tattersall and Schwartz suggest that many more human species existed than we previously thought, and that many of them existed contemporaneously until about 25,000 years ago

Interesting . . .

29 posted on 02/27/2013 4:02:40 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Note: this topic is from 2/07/2013. Thanks blam.

30 posted on 09/10/2013 5:15:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Note: this topic is from 2/07/2013.

So, is the jawbone now 500,000 1/2 years old?
31 posted on 09/10/2013 5:31:54 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Y5 crown on the teeth?


32 posted on 09/10/2013 5:41:19 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: bert
Every "day" enumerated in Genesis ends with "And the evening and the morning were the [nth] day."

Every day save one.

This is crucial to understanding Biblical chronology...

33 posted on 09/10/2013 5:49:16 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

;’)


34 posted on 09/10/2013 5:59:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is that one of Anthony Weiner’s ancestors?


35 posted on 09/10/2013 11:27:01 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

You could find out by asking him to send a picture.


36 posted on 09/12/2013 2:01:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Strategerist; blam; SunkenCiv; null and void; All

Given the age range 300,000 to 500,000 years ago, I wonder why they haven’t proposed Hidelbergensis. There are a lot of H skulls of that age shown in the Evolution of Man exhibit funded by the Kock brothers at the Smithsonian Institution.


37 posted on 09/14/2013 10:07:33 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

38 posted on 06/21/2014 6:28:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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