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Boy Scouts delay vote
Boy Scouts of America website ^ | 02/06/2013 | Boy Scouts of America

Posted on 02/06/2013 8:04:47 AM PST by mikemoose

...To that end, the National Executive Board directed its committees to further engage representatives of Scouting’s membership and listen to their perspectives and concerns. This will assist the officers’ work on a resolution on membership standards....

(Excerpt) Read more at scouting.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; vote
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I am relieved, but concerned about the increased support for the removal of the ban in the upcoming months. Next on the ballot, May 2013.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 8:04:57 AM PST by mikemoose
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To: mikemoose

They did a two year study and reaffirmed the ban in 2012. Now month later they are doing it all over again? What else do they need to know? Here us the deal, the gay supporters need more time to sway the public, it wasn’t going their way...


2 posted on 02/06/2013 8:14:53 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: mikemoose

relieved?

it should have been a slam dunk, it should never have been brought up.

I would never be a part of this, I will not let my nephew join for sure.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 8:16:28 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mikemoose

I hear a can rattling down the road after being kicked....


4 posted on 02/06/2013 8:17:06 AM PST by MWestMom (Will Americans stop someone who views our children as "collateral damage" in their quest for power?)
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To: mikemoose

Who would ever have thought that the BSA would consider voting on leadership from a group of degenerates with such a hideous and obvious record of sex-offenses to openly enter such a fine organization for young boys? What a preposterous and ignorant notion.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 8:18:19 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: mikemoose

The SBC must have caused a pause in the madness, but i feel it is still coming.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 8:20:50 AM PST by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: mikemoose
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7 posted on 02/06/2013 8:25:26 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: mikemoose

BSA put it on the agenda, they should have had the guts to take a vote. They put it off until May because that is the end of the school year. They want to give everyone the summer for the decision to sink in, and probably didn’t want people like me who vehemently disagree with the change to leave the pack mid-year. February is Blue/Gold month, and it certainly would have put a pall over the activities

As a scout leader, not voting is an act of sheer cowardice. BSA leadership board should be ashamed of themselves.

Truly pathetic BSA, truly pathetic.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 8:27:11 AM PST by Bell407Pilot
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To: Bell407Pilot

Agreed. This stinks of trying to have their cake and eat it too, fundraising now, deciding later. Well, this Friend of Scouting will now delay our contribution until at least May.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 8:44:58 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: bigtoona

The queers smell blood, even if they don’t get their way now, every two years or so, we’ll go through this all over again...Rinse...Lather...Repeat...until they get their way.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 8:46:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mikemoose
Delayed? Because they know the majority are AGAINST sodomy?!

God help America.

11 posted on 02/06/2013 8:56:59 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: dfwgator

I agree that they are thinking that...but let’s take this as a victory and try to work on the existing BSA to STOP this crap.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 8:58:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: caseinpoint
Well, this Friend of Scouting will now delay our contribution until at least May.

The BSA won't get a dime from me if they change their current policy and allow gay members and - *gag* - scout masters.

And that includes buying popcorn, etc. from kids set up in front of our local grocery stores. If they ask why I won't buy any, I'll calmly and "nicely" explain why, and walk away.

Enough is enough...

13 posted on 02/06/2013 9:00:15 AM PST by nutmeg (FUBO!)
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To: dfwgator
The queers smell blood, even if they don’t get their way now, every two years or so, we’ll go through this all over again...Rinse...Lather...Repeat...until they get their way.

Yup... you're exactly right.

Perhaps an alternate boy scouts' type of organization should be formed...

14 posted on 02/06/2013 9:02:14 AM PST by nutmeg (FUBO!)
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To: Bell407Pilot

I’m also worried about it. I’ll be attending two Blue and Golds and one Troop Banquet (for my grandsons) in February and March. There’s always a collection taken there and I always give whatever it is they ask for (usually $250, I think). It’s a lot of money but I believe in their mission. I can’t help but wonder if they’re just trying to get this year’s donations.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 9:03:44 AM PST by old and tired
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To: mikemoose
The Boy Scouts taught boys how to be men and respectable members of the community. Homosexual leaders can't teach them that.

If the Boy Scouts let the homosexuals in the door, it's over for them. The North American Man/Boy Love Association teaches classes on how to molest a child without getting caught. Who would want to hand their young sons over to these people?

If you want to find a homosexual, go to where the kids are. You'll find one there.

16 posted on 02/06/2013 9:05:10 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: GeronL
Dittoes

You can't buy time between right and wrong, light and darkness, goodness and evil and follow the Lord or follow Satan.

Joshua 24:15

"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve.."

17 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:18 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: mikemoose

Anybody here on FR a member of the 1400 person National Council who’ll be voting on this in May or know someone who is? Any way we can find out who is?


18 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:51 AM PST by old and tired
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To: dfwgator

I agree that they are thinking that...but let’s take this as a victory and try to work on the existing BSA to STOP this crap.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 9:09:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: mikemoose

Punt!

c_h
Eagle Scout, 1963


20 posted on 02/06/2013 9:10:04 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: carriage_hill

Use the time to target any leaders who need to be purged.

Get rid of the weak kneed.


21 posted on 02/06/2013 9:22:43 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Need a purge to rid the BSA of homos, on all levels. Let ‘em start their own group, and GTH out of Scouting!


22 posted on 02/06/2013 9:30:20 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: bigtoona

Distance is your friend. Let things cool down a bit. Reason this out. Catholics and Mormons = Scouting.


23 posted on 02/06/2013 10:24:48 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: carriage_hill

No need to purge. Instead, some enterprising young homosexual activist just needs to create his own scouting organization that allows homosexuals in. Problem solved.

Let all those corporations fund that scout organization. Let parents of boys that want homosexual leaders for their sons go to that scouting organization.

There’s no need to violate the Right to Free Association.


24 posted on 02/06/2013 10:29:35 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoFloFreeper

they need to change the leadership that’s pushing this


25 posted on 02/06/2013 11:32:46 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: nutmeg

Christian Service Brigade, since 1937.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Service_Brigade


26 posted on 02/06/2013 1:03:04 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Bell407Pilot

I agree!


27 posted on 02/06/2013 1:56:15 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: mikemoose

What? The BSA didn’t jump when Obama said to jump?

Good.


28 posted on 02/06/2013 2:35:52 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: GeronL
I will not let my nephew join for sure.

Are you his guardian or something?

29 posted on 02/06/2013 2:42:05 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: Bell407Pilot
Truly pathetic BSA, truly pathetic.

Par for the course. Has been for years with BSA.

30 posted on 02/06/2013 2:43:40 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: newzjunkey

Not quite, its complicated. lol


31 posted on 02/06/2013 2:45:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: old and tired; mikemoose; Jeff Head
18 posted on 2/6/2013 11:06:51 AM by old and tired: "Anybody here on FR a member of the 1400 person National Council who’ll be voting on this in May or know someone who is? Any way we can find out who is?"

Agreed.

This is something on which Free Republic could do a lot of good. Let's find the national council representatives and lobby, as well as helping others lobby.

A significant number of Boy Scout troops are connected with churches. As much as I hate to admit it, the Mormons, who use Scouting as their youth organization, could be very helpful. I'm pinging Jeff Head, a longtime Mormon Freeper, to see if he has any specific advice on ways the LDS could help fight the homosexual agenda in Scouting.

I'm no friend to Mormonism, but on this point regarding homosexuality and Scouting, I think the LDS, evangelical Protestants, traditional Roman Catholics and secular conservatives are on the same side.

A final point: I'm not so sure the decision to postpone the vote was a bad decision. As Freepers, we routinely say we need to let the grassroots make key decisions, and have bottom-up input rather than top-down hierarchies. Scouting did just that -- rather than making a snap decision, they let the broadest representative assembly of Scouting make this decision, and gave them enough time to debate. That seems reasonable to me.

32 posted on 02/06/2013 3:44:08 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: mikemoose

Allowing this to happen will doom the Scout program.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 3:54:48 PM PST by unique3
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To: unique3

even seriously considering this could cripple the BSA


34 posted on 02/06/2013 3:55:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mikemoose

Our Troop has had a policy for many years that was put into place after a single, unaffiliated man volunteered to be our Scoutmaster when no one else wanted to take the job. A few months later, he was caught trying to molest a Scout (the kid fought like hell and made a lot of noise, which saved him).

The policy is pretty simple:

Parents and guardians can come on any campout.
New leader applicants must be affiliated with a Scout (father, brother, uncle, guardian, Big Brother, etc.) and proof of such affiliation must be presented to the Troop Committee.
New Leader applicants must undergo a background check immediately (we pay for this, not the BSA). A new Leader Applicant must then camp with us for at least a year and must complete Assistant Scoutmaster training. At that point, the Scoutmaster either recommends or does not recommend the New Applicant to the Troop Committee. If no one on the TC has a problem, then the New Applicant meets with the Charter Organization Rep (the pastor of the church) to seek his clearance. The pastor grills the applicant during this session and looks for “sincerity” above all else. If the New Applicant passes, he then fills out the registration form and we sign it and it goes to Council for another background check. If OK, he/she then is registered.

In the last 30 years, we have not had a gay leader or any incidents of inappropriate behavior.

As for Scouts, we abide by the Scouting rule that no leader can talk about anything sexual with a minor. If a Scout tells a SM or ASM that they are sexually actively and gay or having sex with their girlfriend, it instantly becomes a “counseling event” and we bring in the parents. If, in front of their parents, the Scout admits or tells us they are sexually active, whatever orientation, they are immediately removed from the Troop. If we are presented with external proof of a Scout being sexually active (a pregnant girlfriend), they are out. We have had this happen few times over the past 12 years I have been with the Troop.

We have over 120 Eagle Scouts on our alumni list. Some of them are now openly gay. We just ignore it. But, even our aged-out Eagle Scouts must reapply as a New Leader Applicant if they want to camp with the Troop or become a leader.

I imagine if National passes their “unit rights” rule, we will publish the above and carry on as usual.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 4:35:00 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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36 posted on 02/06/2013 4:39:16 PM PST by narses
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39 posted on 02/06/2013 4:40:46 PM PST by narses
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To: mikemoose

I want to know names of corporate sponsors that are pushing this. Because if the Scouts go to the dark side, I want to know who to boycott forever.


40 posted on 02/06/2013 5:07:50 PM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Cloverfarm

I think AT&T and Verizon are among them


41 posted on 02/06/2013 5:08:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
I imagine if National passes their “unit rights” rule, we will publish the above and carry on as usual.

What will you do at Jamborees or scout camp where your boys will be meeting with boys from other troops? It won't be enough to keep your troop "clean." The whole BSA must be kept clean.

42 posted on 02/06/2013 5:56:05 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

If it passes the BSA, nationally, should be boycotted and abandoned


43 posted on 02/06/2013 5:58:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JoeFromSidney; al baby

The JAMBRD will have a whole new meaning


44 posted on 02/06/2013 5:58:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

That’s really what this is all about anyways...to make the BSA cease to exist.


45 posted on 02/06/2013 6:11:24 PM PST by awin
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To: awin

If they are turned leftist, the MSM will highlight them, there will be movies and TV shows about them, the schools will welcome them etc etc

If they think they can go half and half or placate the left, the rest will abandon them and they will have nothing.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 6:16:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JoeFromSidney

We have 80 Scouts and over 20 registered adult leaders. When we go to summer camp, we always send an adult to each merit badge session our Scouts attend to look out for our own.

We usually arrange to attend just one day of jamborees and camp nearby. Our Scouts do not like the Council provisional trips and we have not sent anyone in many years.

We just filled two ships at Seabase and sent four crews to Northern Tier last summer. This summer we are sending four treks to Philmont with 2-3 of our leaders per trek.

Essentially, we grew in size so we could control our program. It works very well.


47 posted on 02/06/2013 6:19:25 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Neoliberalnot; mikemoose
Who would ever have thought that the BSA would consider voting on leadership from a group of degenerates with such a hideous and obvious record of sex-offenses to openly enter such a fine organization for young boys?

Ya think this is the same country your parents grew up in?

Come on...

You're surrounded by betrayers, a culture of corruption at all levels of government, where unionized government schools have brainwashed the past two generations of school kids...They've intentionally flooded our country with tens of millions here illegally, basically undermining and compromising our electoral process and divided the once united...All this and more happened in the past 30 years or so...

You didn't notice all this?

48 posted on 02/06/2013 6:43:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mikemoose

[Warning - Arrest report with very graphic details regarding the activities of a homosexual pedophile “Boy Scout”]
http://www.scribd.com/doc/110542554/Boys-Scouts-of-America-Floyd-David-Slusher-File

What exactly is there to think about?


49 posted on 02/06/2013 7:05:11 PM PST by TArcher
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To: bigtoona

BSA is no doubt trying to navigate the Leftwing threats.


50 posted on 02/06/2013 9:48:57 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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