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Boy Scouts Reaffirm Gay Ban After 2-Year Review, Call 972-580-2000 at BSA HQ in Irving, TX
The Blaze ^ | July 17, 2012 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 02/04/2013 10:26:04 PM PST by Steelers6

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/17/boy-scouts-reaffirm-gay-ban-after-2-year-review/

NEW YORK (AP) — After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, ruling out any changes despite relentless protest campaigns by some critics.

An 11-member special committee, formed discreetly by top Scout leaders in 2010, “came to the conclusion that this policy is absolutely the best policy for the Boy Scouts,” the organization’ national spokesman, Deron Smith, told The Associated Press.

Smith said the committee, comprised of professional scout executives and adult volunteers, was unanimous in its conclusion – preserving a long-standing policy that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 and has remained controversial ever since.

As a result of the committee’s decision, the Scouts’ national executive board will take no further action on a recently submitted resolution asking for reconsideration of the membership policy.

Boy Scouts of America Chief Executive Bob Mazzuca (Source: scouting.org)

The Scouts’ chief executive, Bob Mazzuca, contended that most Scout families support the policy, which applies to both leaders and Scouts.

“The vast majority of the parents of youth we serve value their right to address issues of same-sex orientation within their family, with spiritual advisers and at the appropriate time and in the right setting,” Mazzuca said. “We fully understand that no single policy will accommodate the many diverse views among our membership or society.”

The president of the largest U.S. gay-rights group, Chad Griffin of the Human Rights Campaign, depicted the Scouts’ decision as “a missed opportunity of colossal proportions.”

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“With the country moving toward inclusion, the leaders of the Boy Scouts of America have instead sent a message to young people that only some of them are valued,” he said. “They’ve chosen to teach division and intolerance.”

The Scouts did not identify the members of the special committee that studied the issue, but said in a statement that they represented “a diversity of perspectives and opinions.”

“The review included forthright and candid conversation and extensive research and evaluations – both from within Scouting and from outside of the organization,” the statement said.

The announcement suggests that hurdles may be high for a couple of members of the national executive board – Ernst & Young CEO James Turley and AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson – who have recently indicated they would try to work from within to change the policy. Both of their companies have been commended by gay-rights groups for gay-friendly employment policies.

Stephenson is on track to become president of the Scouts’ national board in 2014, and will likely face continued pressure from gay-rights groups to try to end the exclusion policy. Asked for comment on Tuesday about the Scouts’ decision to keep the policy, AT&T did not refer to Stephenson’s situation specifically.

“We don’t agree with every policy of every organization we support, nor would we expect them to agree with us on everything,” the company said. “Our belief is that change at any organization must come from within to be successful and sustainable.”

A statement from the executive committee of the Scouts’ national executive board alluded to the Turley-Stephenson developments.

“Scouting believes that good people can personally disagree on this topic and still work together to achieve the life-changing benefits to youth through Scouting,” the statement said. “While not all board members may personally agree with this policy, and may choose a different direction for their own organizations, BSA leadership agrees this is the best policy for the organization.”

Since 2000, the Boy Scouts have been targeted with numerous protest campaigns and run afoul of some local nondiscrimination laws because of the membership policy.

One ongoing protest campaign involves Jennifer Tyrrell, the Ohio mother of a 7-year-old Cub Scout who was ousted as a Scout den mother because she is lesbian.

Change.org, an online forum supporting activist causes, says more than 300,000 people have signed its petition urging the Scouts to reinstate Tyrrell and abandon the exclusion policy. The petition is to be delivered to the Scouts’ national headquarters in Irving, Texas, on Wednesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bsa; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; honorcode; liberalism; morality; moralstraightness; no; paraphilia; pedagogy; pederast; perversion; review; scouting; scouts; sexualabuse; subversion
So 6 months later they are going to ignore a 2 year review to a President and one of his interest groups that hate the Boy Scouts and have cost them to spend millions to defend it in court. This President couldn't be bothered to make the Centennial of the Boy Scouts a few miles from the White House.
1 posted on 02/04/2013 10:26:22 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Steelers6
ruling out any changes despite relentless protest campaigns by some critics.

How many of these critics were parents eager to have their sons raped. And, how many of these critics were homosexuals eager to sodomize young boys?

2 posted on 02/04/2013 10:34:24 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: Steelers6

This was not a good election for the Boy Scouts, both candidates wanted to homosexualize them, Romney has promoted it for almost 20 years.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 10:35:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: All; Steelers6

I just emailed their leader at Wayne.Brock@Scouting.org

Calling is better, but if you can’t call, you can email. If possible, do both!


4 posted on 02/04/2013 10:36:26 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; Steelers6
It looks like the BSA outwitted the leftists this time by going around the leftist infiltrated national board. There are at least two leftist moles on the national board that need to be replaced asap.

Speaking about the leftists on the board -I had a wild thought the other day when considering how the leftists had gotten this far by infiltrating the BSA national board and it came to me that perhaps it was one or both of these leftists that was behind the released information pertaining to the so called 'BSA perversion files' that were trumpeted all over the leftist media recently as a way to discredit the national BSA leadership.

I wonder?

5 posted on 02/04/2013 11:05:01 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Steelers6

None of this is about tolerating homosexuals in the Boy Scouts. There are, and have been, gays in the scouts since I was a kid and there are gays in the scouts today.

I sent this to the BSA this weekend...

We had our Klondike Derby this weekend and I was around a lot of adult scout leaders. Not surprisingly, the gay ban was on most people’s minds. I can tell you that there were THREE very vocal proponents — two of which were our scout master and assistant scout master. Many parents were unhappy with this strong support but felt that voicing such concerns would stigmatize them.

Personally, I am disappointed that an organization built on a strong value system has put find raising above those values. I think you are doing this all wrong.

First, stop talking about this. Do not respond to questions and do not make statements. Second, instead of chasing the wavering supporters, promote the solid supporters. Include a list of scout friendly merchants as part of your parent communications and encourage scout families to support these friends of scouting. Scouting families buy a lot and should be seen as something to be wooed.

I’m concerned that the BSA is the next JCP. Penny changed their values to woo an attractive demographic. The attractive demographic would never patronize JC Penny, so few new customers were gained. The wooing process chased away a lot of customers who were offended by the changes and JCP now has no customers.

Just last fall senate and presidential candidates lost elections after campaigns distancing themselves from values voters — democrat voters didn’t believe them and republicans did.

The BSA is (was) an organization based on values. It’s OK if people who do not like those values do not support us. It’s not ok if the people who like those values do not support us.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 11:45:33 PM PST by wizwor
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To: Steelers6
Check the date, FReepers. This isn't a done deal. Scouts is still considering allowing homosexual leaders. Please call and respectfully disagree.

“With the country moving toward inclusion perversion, the leaders of the Boy Scouts of America have instead sent a message to young people that only some of them are valued all of them should be protected,” he said. “They’ve chosen to teach division and intolerance one of America's fundamental liberties - Freedom of Association.”

7 posted on 02/05/2013 2:14:03 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Steelers6

Save


8 posted on 02/05/2013 2:25:19 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Steelers6

Why must Socialists inject sex, warped or otherwise, into EVERYTHING? Particularly when it involves kids who are really too young to even give it more than a passing nod; kids who have a narrow window of time to enjoy other things in life - before they have to grow up and take on huge responsibilities in life? - Obama seems to be obsessed with warped sex; but even he still likes to shoot hoops and tap the golf balls much of the time.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 4:41:37 AM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Steelers6
The BSA is a private organization and can play by the rules it chooses.

Personally, I think that if a group believes there should be a scouting organization that welcomes homosexuals, they can start their own such organization. They can call it the Rump Rangers and invent a whole new set of merit badges, for all I care. They don't need to wedge themselves into the BSA.

10 posted on 02/05/2013 4:46:44 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Steelers6

This is an old article.....And it looks like the Scouts have changed their mind since then.


11 posted on 02/05/2013 4:50:24 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelers6

When one endorses sanctions or subsidizes poor behavior you get more poor behavior. Kudos to the BSA for recognizing and encouraging the best behavior.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 4:58:25 AM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: Steelers6
RE :”NEW YORK (AP) — After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, ruling out any changes despite relentless protest campaigns by some critics.
An 11-member special committee, formed discreetly by top Scout leaders in 2010, “came to the conclusion that this policy is absolutely the best policy for the Boy Scouts,” the organization’ national spokesman, Deron Smith, told The Associated Press. “

Good, they recently sent me a note thanking me for my Dec 31 donation. I was hoping it wouldnt be my last

13 posted on 02/05/2013 5:08:54 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Steelers6

This is from JUL of last year—Why is it posted here now?


14 posted on 02/05/2013 5:13:21 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: Twinkie

Why must Socialists inject sex, warped or otherwise, into EVERYTHING?

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Because that is the most efficient way to distort the family unit. Look how successful they have been in our culture.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 5:26:31 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Steelers6

Un mentioned was the mandaory Youth Protection program that is required for all BSA leaders to protect scouts from the sexual predators.

The amount of time and of money spent to protect boys is extremely great and should be unnecessary. In a previous age, the predators would be beaten to pink pulp. That policy might be necessary again. Screw around with the boys and you may not walk well again. The legal system has failed and the tyrannical lawyers that run it for their own benefit should be bypassed untill they get their priorities straight.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 5:33:12 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: wizwor

I would have had a lot of fun with the vocal proponents. “So you’re the sodomy scoutmasters” “Sodomy is filthy and bad for your rectum, how does that jibe with being morally straight”, etc. I LOVE provoking those folks.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 5:48:55 AM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

Just tell them that it’s an EXIT, not an ENTRANCE.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 6:49:02 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: DBeers

This story is old. It isn’t regarding the current “debate”.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 7:05:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
This story is old. It isn’t regarding the current “debate”.

Thanks. Yes, I sadly noted this after another poster pointed it out. I still think that my theory in post #5 is worth checking out regarding who released information or provided the smoking gun pertaining to the so called 'BSA perversion files'

20 posted on 02/05/2013 8:08:40 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Steelers6
This President couldn't be bothered to make the Centennial of the Boy Scouts a few miles from the White House

Also to mention that when a Boy Scout earns the rank of Eagle they do not receive a signed (autopen) congrats letter from the President. I got mine in 1979.
21 posted on 02/05/2013 8:13:03 AM PST by freebird5850 (The only good thing about Barry getting re-elected is now we get to see him fall from a higher place)
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To: Twinkie

To understand the left’s “values”,
take any biblical value and formulate the diametric opposite,

and you got it.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 8:18:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Steelers6

I never could understand why this was even an issue. Sexual deviancy, no matter if wanting to sodomize boys or sheep or dog or goats, would be tolerated by an organization that works with children. How in our world can someone be called anything but sexually deviant that does such a thing and still expect to participate with children?


23 posted on 02/05/2013 8:47:29 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Steelers6

Why don’t these pedophiles start their own politically correct and tolerant scout troop? They could name it AAA Anal Army of America!


24 posted on 02/05/2013 9:17:14 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: 1010RD

The phone number is not being answered or taking messages. Email them, that is what the message on that phone said to do.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 9:20:21 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: DBeers
it came to me that perhaps it was one or both of these leftists that was behind the released information pertaining to the so called 'BSA perversion files' that were trumpeted all over the leftist media recently as a way to discredit the national BSA leadership.

No.

The Oregon Supreme Court upheld a lower court's ruling to release that information.

A Scout leader named Timur Dykes abused Scouts at a summer camp. He confessed that to a bishop of his church, but the bishop did not report the abuse to the authorities, the local Scout Council, or the BSA.

Years later, one of the abused Scouts sued the church, the Cascade Pacific Council, and the BSA.

The church settled out of court. The Council and the BSA fought the case, arguing that they had no knowledge. The jury found that they should have known. Although the jury determined that the church was responsible for a certain percentage of the judgment, it had already settled out of court so the BSA and the Cascade Pacific Council had to pay the entire muti-million dollar judgment.

As part of the judgment, the court ruled that the BSA had to turn over its perversion files.

26 posted on 02/05/2013 1:24:46 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Scoutmaster
That figures. Transplanted liberal Yankees out to screw the BSA hard, for trying to keep kids away from ravening pederasts and degenerates.
27 posted on 02/05/2013 2:02:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: thirst4truth
Why don’t these pedophiles start their own politically correct and tolerant scout troop?

Because this is symbolic politics. The BSA, the Roman Catholic Church, the Supreme Court, the Congress, the White House, the League of Women Voters, the American Jewish Congress, the LaLeche League, the American Conservative Union, and EVERY source of moral legitimacy you ever heard of, must take turns at America's Show Trial, to confess past errors -- dare I say political "sins" -- and embrace wholeheartedly with convincing sincerity the goodness, wholesomeness, and even the moral superiority of homosexuals and their favorite paraphilias, over everything YOU have ever learned, revered, or thought authoritative.

That's what's up. If you're not down with it -- there goes your job, there go your savings, and next stop is the destructive-labor camp Bill Ayers is building in his mind.

28 posted on 02/05/2013 2:09:21 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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