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People Disappointed With NY Gun Law Forum
13wham.com ^ | January 29, 2013 | Kelsie Smith

Posted on 01/29/2013 8:11:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Rochester, N.Y. – Gun owners asked police and state leaders how these laws will directly affected them.

The question asked by many of the people was why, why was this law put into place, why weren't there any public hearings before it was signed.

But Tuesday's forum wasn't a time to debate the law but rather learn about it.

“They passed this legislation like a theft in the night,” said Jeddy Tranquill, who attended the forum.

“We feel the law is turning good people into criminals,” said 2nd amendment advocate Tony Matuszak.

Two weeks after Governor Cuomo signed the New York S.A.F.E. Act, state officials were in town to try and help people better understand the law.

A large crowd gathered for a presentation at Rochester's Public Safety Building where state representatives broke down parts of the law. But explanation or not, many were still upset overall.

“You don't feel that this safe act is unconstitutional?” asked a man in the crowd.

“Why from a prosecution stand point, Mr. Green, does the state even care what my address is?” asked another.

But while questions were answered more kept rising.

Gun and ammunition dealers, like Kordell Jackson, owner of Jackson Guns & Ammo in Henrietta, said even after this forum he still doesn't have a clear understanding of the law.

“It's one thing to put in laws and make sure they're governed by our states and everybody pays attention to that,” said Jackson, “but when it's too unclear it's unfair to us. Then we're [dealers] trying to tell our customers what's the right way to do things and we can't even give them answers.”

If you have questions about the law call 1-855-LAW-GUNS or go to www.NYSAFEAct.com


TOPICS: US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; cuomo; fucuomo; govtabuse; guncontrol; secondamendment; tyranny

1 posted on 01/29/2013 8:11:03 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Overreach. When you thought you could, but it all came crashing down.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/29/2013 8:18:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Backlash. When tone-deaf and anticipation combine.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/29/2013 8:19:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As a NYer, I believe “Disappointed” in the title is beyond a HUGE understatement!
4 posted on 01/29/2013 8:19:54 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It would be nice to have some recall petitions to circulate around during these meetings.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 8:20:47 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Everybody is limited to 7 round magazines. There are no 7 round magazines produced. hmmmm


6 posted on 01/29/2013 8:20:56 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thye had to PASS the law, before they could tell th public what was in it.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 8:21:32 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: MacMattico
Disappointed. When politicians hang from lamp posts, and you realize you've run out of politicians.

/johnny

8 posted on 01/29/2013 8:21:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Back when things were less PC, the government officials heads would have been sent back to the governor in a sack.

It's said that history repeats itself. If Rotten Rostenkowski were still alive, he could tell everyone what it is like to have to run from a mob of unhappy constituants.

9 posted on 01/29/2013 8:27:19 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: PilotDave
There will be.
With mag clamps.


10 posted on 01/29/2013 8:28:28 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: PilotDave
"There are no 7 round magazines produced."

That's the standard magazine capacity for the .45 1911/1911A1.

11 posted on 01/29/2013 8:32:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Taxpayer money should NOT be used to pay for armed security for politicians. Let them live like the rest of us...


12 posted on 01/29/2013 8:32:48 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: PilotDave

My Sig Sauer has 7 round magazine.


13 posted on 01/29/2013 8:38:41 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Joe 6-pack

Shouldn’t the 1911/1911A1 be declared the “official” gun of ,ew York? After all, it has the sanctified 7 round magazine. Surely the good governor will go out there and tell everyone that they should get a 1911 because it has a “good” number of bullets. Wouldn’t it be funny to promote the 1911 and enrage the gun banners that way. The 1911 being an iconic American weapon of war (boo, hiss). That would really upset the socialists.


14 posted on 01/29/2013 8:51:26 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Stricter gun laws have nothing to with increased safety of the populace and everything with politics. Quite a few politicians may not be too swift but they are smart enough to see the hand writing on the wall if things continue the way they are that the natives may get restless.

The “Occupy” riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead - years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

A good example was the most recent shooting as apprehensible and regrettable as it was, almost immediately politicians jumped on the band wagon condemning so called “Assault” rifles, where as during this heinous crime spree no assault rifle was being used and instead hand guns stolen from his mother who he first killed came in to play. At least this is or was what later reports indicated.

There always were and will continue to be deranged individuals who will use what ever means are available, including guns to create mayhem. And each additional incident will be gleefully received by overjoyed ignorant politicians such as Feinstein or Bloomberg just having found another reason for removing guns from the general public, as they know quite well that down the road some of their dumb socialistic policies either directly or indirectly may turn the public against them, And eventually should the time come a gun may proof to be hazardous to their health.

There have been plenty of reports that Home Land Security has been ordering inordinate amounts of ammunition what only goes hand in hand with the intentional disarming of a good portion of the populace as sooner or later if things keep on going the way they are things could get a little rough and dicey, putting it mildly and it will be a lot easier to shoot an unarmed citizen than some one who is able to return fire.


15 posted on 01/29/2013 8:51:34 PM PST by saintgermaine
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To: Vince Ferrer

Screw the recall, we need to bring back tar and feathering


16 posted on 01/29/2013 8:59:09 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Wiggins

My Savage M1907 has had a 10 round magazine for over 100 years!


17 posted on 01/29/2013 9:23:49 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: PilotDave
Everybody is limited to 7 round magazines. There are no 7 round magazines produced. hmmmm

Ahhh, I think you're a little off here. My M1911A1 Colt ACP .45 cal auto-loader does. Mmmm? There are lots and lots of those magazines around. (But it would make my .30 cal US M1 Carbine 15-rd magazines unlawful. And thus the rifle, of which there are probably 100,000 in New York State alone. Hey?)

18 posted on 01/29/2013 9:25:37 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: imardmd1; PilotDave

Under the law you can use a ten round magazine but can’t fill it with more than seven rounds.


19 posted on 01/29/2013 10:16:28 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Vince Ferrer~:” It would be nice to have some recall petitions to circulate around during these meetings.”

I don’t believe that New York has provision for ‘recall’ of elected officials.
Maybe that issue should be presented before the voters at the next election.


20 posted on 01/29/2013 10:59:33 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: All
Constitutional Sheriff and Peace Officer Association - www.CSPOA.org

Not on our watch! - www.OathKeepers.org

21 posted on 01/29/2013 11:00:49 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: saintgermaine
A good example was the most recent shooting as apprehensible and regrettable as it was, almost immediately politicians jumped on the band wagon condemning so called “Assault” rifles, where as during this heinous crime spree no assault rifle was being used and instead hand guns stolen from his mother who he first killed came in to play. At least this is or was what later reports indicated.

I am sorry to have to say this, but why do FReepers continue to tell this lie? The latest reports do NOT say the pistols were used, the rifle was used the only shots fired from the pistol were used to kill the perp when he offed himself.

It is nice to argue the merits of the crazed politicians crying out to disarm us but please use facts, not wishful thinking.

22 posted on 01/30/2013 12:44:45 AM PST by calex59
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“I don’t believe that New York has provision for ‘recall’ of elected officials.”

You are correct.

The only way is if they resign, are impeached, or well, I won’t say it because someone will accuse me of making a threat.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 12:46:19 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: MacMattico

Fight Back: Here’s an idea for a sign and palmcard with effective copy that is easy to make up and distribute in your precinct and where ever you go

Democrats and RINOS
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS
FOR FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
AND BE DEFENSELESS WHEN CROOKS COME


24 posted on 01/30/2013 2:30:25 AM PST by mosesdapoet (.Should this former Chicago "Mechanic" go out of retirement ?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What can be done? See “Term Limits” by Vince Flynn or “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross.

“Paging Henry Bowman, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Paging Henry Bowman.”

25 posted on 01/30/2013 2:42:38 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>> why weren’t there any public hearings before it was signed.

Cuz the human foghorn had to prioritize his tyrannical, progressive agenda.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 2:45:00 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Wiggins
My Sig Sauer has 7 round magazine.

A 227?

27 posted on 01/30/2013 6:57:53 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah well...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1432543_AR15_COM_FILES_SUIT_AGAINST_NEW_YORK_STATE___________________.html

Let’s see what we can do to help change that.


28 posted on 01/30/2013 7:02:01 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: MasterGunner01

29 posted on 01/30/2013 7:06:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

30 posted on 01/30/2013 7:10:31 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I was just thinking John Lennon would be alive today if only NYC had tough gun laws back then.
No, wait...


31 posted on 01/30/2013 7:12:31 AM PST by daler
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To: Joe 6-pack

So people who would have bought 9mm pistols are going to get .45 weapons instead, until somebody starts manufacturing 7-round mags for 9mm. Salse of 9mm are effectively banned in NY right now.


32 posted on 01/30/2013 7:45:25 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: saintgermaine
... during this heinous crime spree no assault rifle was being used and instead hand guns stolen from his mother who he first killed came in to play.

That meme has been so thoroughy debunked that people who repeat it can now be written off as kooks, like moon-landing deniers. Do you want to keep repeating it?

33 posted on 01/30/2013 7:53:55 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: zeugma

It’s a 239 blue stainless .40 cal. I also have a Glock 23 that originally came with 13 round magazines. Last year I decided to comply with New York’s 10 round magazine capacity law and spent around $150.00 for 4 ten round mags. What a waste.


34 posted on 01/30/2013 9:05:05 AM PST by Wiggins
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To: dervish
Under the law you can use a ten round magazine but can’t fill it with more than seven rounds.

Well, speaking of the M1911A1, there are10-rd mags available, but cumbersome. So I use the 8-rd Mitchell or Chip McCormick stainless magazines, rather than the standard-issue old 7-rd steel ones (lanyard hook-loop old Army issue!). This gives a total of 9-rd for Condition 1 carry.

35 posted on 01/30/2013 7:48:11 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: dervish
Under the law you can use a ten round magazine but can’t fill it with more than seven rounds.

Well, speaking of the M1911A1, there are10-rd mags available, but cumbersome. So I use the 8-rd Mitchell or Chip McCormick stainless magazines, rather than the standard-issue old 7-rd steel ones (lanyard hook-loop old Army issue!). This gives a total of 9-rd for Condition 1 carry.

36 posted on 01/30/2013 7:48:33 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: dervish

Here’s more food for thought.

www.johntreed.com/gun-and-magazines.html


37 posted on 01/31/2013 4:56:34 AM PST by Morris70
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