Are American Gun Owners a Bunch of Fools?

The slippery slope has begun.

First demonize the rich.

Second, demonize the gun owners.

Third, demonize the free speech radicals who are speaking out for their rights.

There are two reasons right off the top of the list that they won’t do this.

1. The pro-gun crowd is populated by both conservatives AND liberals. Women’s rights peoople see hand guns as the great liberator.

2. Hitler did it. He made it very difficult for anyone else to do it in western civilization without being compared to Hitler. It increases the difficulty substantially.

There are other reasons, not least of which is the sheer quantity of guns and ammo out there.

Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?

I had same thought.

People should be writing their congressmen!

Bump.

Can’t trust the politicians, but the message from us needs to be very simply “NO”.

My rights are guaranteed by the Constitution, written by a group of much more intelligent and honorable leaders than what we have now. No matter WHAT they pass, I’m not doing it. My next doctor’s form will likely have profanity on it as well. Just NO.

When the author said "Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment...", I felt like sending him to his corner for a timeout.

Otherwise, I agreed with a great deal of what he said. I have written every one of my legislators, advising them that I believe there is an all out assault on the 2nd Amendment, and they need to grow a pair and stand firmly against the onslaught.

“Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?”

It feels that way sometimes. Schumer and Gillibrand are lost causes but depending on what district you live in you may influence your Representative. We will need every vote in the house of representatives to win. I encourage you to do your part and write.

People should be writing their congressmen!

Not only your congressman, but every member on the House Judiciary committee (plus one bill went to the Ways and Means committee).

If we can convince them to bottle these bills up in committee, they never get to the floor for a vote and your congressman's opinion will be mooted.

The gun grabber's legislative (National) bill compendium, updated (almost) daily:

Senate Bills:
S.22: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows.
S.33: A bill to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
S.34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
S.35: A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.
S.54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking. ("trafficking = "private sales")

And an interesting side note:
H.R. 339: To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

And one to support! H.R. 410: To provide that any executive action infringing on the Second Amendment has no force or effect, and to prohibit the use of funds for certain purposes.

"Most gun owners, like most of America, are ignorant to world history. Most people don’t know that Kristallnacht, the famous “night of broken glass” in Germany in 1939, was actually a gun roundup. It is considered the beginning of the Holocaust, but what most people leave out is that Hitler published sweeping gun confiscation legislation on November 11, 1938, the day after the famous Nazi rioting."

Indeed, I had not known that, and I have been studying gun issues for many years...though my interest has mostly been in the criminology and gun defense statistics. That latter seems to be a point that is being totally ignored in the current gun debate, and it is probably the strongest argument "our side" has.

The media, including our “friends” at Fox, Drudge, and other “conservative” outlets, are attempting to sell us the concept that the “assault weapon ban” legislation can’t pass, and this is a lie.

I guess I haven't heard this. What I have heard is that it will literally be a bloody mistake for anyone who passes this kind of invasion of our constitutional rights.

“When the author said “Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment...”, I felt like sending him to his corner for a timeout”

Sometimes a wake up call is needed. He’s right. Try showing up at your hunting club, I mean a large club where they have a hunt scheduled, maybe 50 or so members together, and bring your AR. Hunters and fishermen both “eat their own” consistently, calling for regulations on others as long as the regulations don’t affect “them”

Gun Owners of America is ahead of you, I have already emailed both of my Senators and Representatives and will advise all of my friends.

Hitler did it. Stalin did it. Mao did it. Chavez did it. Castro did it. etc. etc. etc. Wash rinse. Repeat.

I notice there is no time limit for keeping of records of any checks.

IOW any universal check becomes a universal registration.

As they say “to get rid of the 1st you have to get rid of the 2nd first”.

With the 1st and 2nd gone the rest are meaningless because you have no way left to complain.

I’m not sure I disagree with him on that point. I’m a moderator on a popular hunting site and FAR more hunters than I would expect have that “You don’t need” attitude.

Some hunters, like other groups, don’t care about bans until/unless it about THIER preferred weapon and they are slow to aid causes or write their representatives on issue that don’t effect them directly.

It’s infuriating and extremely short sighted.
But then I was amazed to learn a few of them voted for Obama in the first place.

Our constitutional rights are upheld in the courts. So why does this not make me feel better? Because I was once a fetus.

People should be writing their congressmen!

Agreed and it doesn't matter if your congressmen are republican or democrat. Write to them anyway.