Skip to comments.Are American Gun Owners a Bunch of Fools?
Posted on 01/25/2013 6:30:08 AM PST by pabianice
The American gun owning public is being duped again, just like we were duped the two weeks before the election when we were convinced that Romney was ahead by several percentage points. The media, including our friends at Fox, Drudge, and other conservative outlets, are attempting to sell us the concept that the assault weapon ban legislation cant pass, and this is a lie. We are told that Bill Clinton sternly warned his party that they will be punished in the mid-terms, and that the NRA is too powerful for any real legislation to make it through congress. This is also a lie. Behind our backs, the political machine is crafting public opinion in what have become the majority voting blocks to convince national and state legislators that they are safe for the next election and they are safe. American gun owners didnt show up in force for the last election, and we are not feared as a voting block any longer. Dont be a fool and believe it when they tell us we cant lose. We are going to get beaten again if we dont act. And this time it isnt a slippery slope. This time they are going to outlaw an entire class of guns with no loopholes.
If you are on the GunsAmerica email list, or you are clicking in from the website, you are probably a gun owner of some type (or you are desperately trying to buy your first gun before they ban them), and you may feel that we are preaching to the choir. But there is also a 90% chance that YOU HAVE NOT CONTACTED YOUR LEGISLATORS to let them know that you are strongly against any kind of weapon ban, or any increase in our national or state gun laws whatsoever.
You are silent, because you think it is someone elses job. But it is your job, and you have to make yourself be heard. Call and email your legislators today.
The NRA came into this fight almost a month late and their response has been anything but well received. Even though President Obamas kids are guarded by armed guards in schools, and even though Dianne Feinstein actually possesses one of San Franciscos few concealed carry permits, the very sane suggestions of the NRA have fallen on mostly deaf ears. The media , including Fox, has beat up Wayne Lapierre and is inflating every shooting incident in the country right now, trying to keep the gun control energy as high as possible, so that the legislators will have the courage to vote against the wishes of the majority of their constituents. The only way they can do this is their constituents, meaning YOU, remain silent.
You must call and write your legislators today. Let them know that you know who they are. You know their name, and you will remember how they voted come election day. Dont just use the web form, and dont just call their Washington, DC numbers. Call their local numbers and tell their staffers that you and ever gun owner you know will be watching them, and funding their opponents if they vote for this ineffective and stupid legislation. At some point you have to take action, and you have to go that extra step, and now is the time.
Most gun owners, like most of America, are ignorant to world history. Most people dont know that Kristallnacht, the famous night of broken glass in Germany in 1939, was actually a gun roundup. It is considered the beginning of the Holocaust, but what most people leave out is that Hitler published sweeping gun confiscation legislation on November 11, 1938, the day after the famous Nazi rioting. You will find the same gun confiscations in the pages of the dictatorial and murderous takeovers of China, Cambodia, Ukraine and throughout history. The first thing every government spinning out of control does is register the guns. Then they round up the guns. Then they declare martial law, putting the military in charge. Do you feel like America has been heading in the right direction? Do you wonder why prepping has become more popular than NASCAR? The government knows that America is a powder keg waiting to pop, and they are trying to use a manufactured crisis to take away your guns.
In President Obamas speech, which took place right in the middle of SHOT Show of course, he played to law abiding gun owners, specifically calling out to our petition that we all signed at the beginning of this crisis. The President actually had the nerve to say that this wasnt about politics and the tactics of a dictatorial regime, despite the fact that rifles, including AR-15 and other magazine fed rifles, are only used in a tiny percentage of gun violence. He even admitted this during the debates. He was appealing to middle class casual gun owners and hunters. They want us to turn on ourselves. They want the old hunting crowd to say I dont know why anyone would need a gun like that, or why would you need a magazine with more than 7 rounds. They want the Ipad generation to fall into lockstep with their ideals, and for the old hunting crowd to back them up. We saw it at SHOT Show. Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment, and this will be no different.
The people who outvoted us this past November dont believe in the Constitution. The Ipad generation believes what they see on TV. While all those TV personalities hire armed guards and carry guns themselves to protect their own life and property, they are building public opinion against our 2nd Amendment freedom to keep and bear arms. The Ipad generation doesnt understand the nature of mankind, and the implicit design of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Holocaust was 60 years ago, not 600 years ago YOU TOUCHSCREEN ADDICTED IDIOTS. This isnt about President Obama. It isnt about what happens next month or next year. The 2nd Amendment must be preserved if our freedom is to be preserved. If we give anything today it will be the next thing we give at the next crisis, then the next thing we give at the next crisis, until we are all defending ourselves with airguns like they do in European Union today. Please contact your legislators today
The slippery slope has begun.
First demonize the rich.
Second, demonize the gun owners.
Third, demonize the free speech radicals who are speaking out for their rights.
There are two reasons right off the top of the list that they won’t do this.
1. The pro-gun crowd is populated by both conservatives AND liberals. Women’s rights peoople see hand guns as the great liberator.
2. Hitler did it. He made it very difficult for anyone else to do it in western civilization without being compared to Hitler. It increases the difficulty substantially.
There are other reasons, not least of which is the sheer quantity of guns and ammo out there.
Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?
I had same thought.
People should be writing their congressmen!
Can’t trust the politicians, but the message from us needs to be very simply “NO”.
My rights are guaranteed by the Constitution, written by a group of much more intelligent and honorable leaders than what we have now. No matter WHAT they pass, I’m not doing it. My next doctor’s form will likely have profanity on it as well. Just NO.
Otherwise, I agreed with a great deal of what he said. I have written every one of my legislators, advising them that I believe there is an all out assault on the 2nd Amendment, and they need to grow a pair and stand firmly against the onslaught.
“Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?”
It feels that way sometimes. Schumer and Gillibrand are lost causes but depending on what district you live in you may influence your Representative. We will need every vote in the house of representatives to win. I encourage you to do your part and write.
Not only your congressman, but every member on the House Judiciary committee (plus one bill went to the Ways and Means committee).
If we can convince them to bottle these bills up in committee, they never get to the floor for a vote and your congressman's opinion will be mooted.
The gun grabber's legislative (National) bill compendium, updated (almost) daily:
H.R. 21: NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Moran, James P., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 34: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 117: Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Holt, Rush, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 137: Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 138: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 141: Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 142: Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act. Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L., Referred to the Ways and Means committee.
H.R. 227: Buyback Our Safety Act. Sponsor: Rep Deutch, Theodore E., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 236: Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Langevin, James R., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act. Sponsor: Rep Meng, Grace, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 329: To amend the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 to encourage States to provide records to the National Instant Background Check System.
H.R. 404: To enhance criminal penalties for straw purchasers of firearms.
S.22: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows.
S.33: A bill to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
S.34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
S.35: A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.
S.54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking. ("trafficking = "private sales")
And an interesting side note:
H.R. 339: To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.
Indeed, I had not known that, and I have been studying gun issues for many years...though my interest has mostly been in the criminology and gun defense statistics. That latter seems to be a point that is being totally ignored in the current gun debate, and it is probably the strongest argument "our side" has.
I guess I haven't heard this. What I have heard is that it will literally be a bloody mistake for anyone who passes this kind of invasion of our constitutional rights.
“When the author said “Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment...”, I felt like sending him to his corner for a timeout”
Sometimes a wake up call is needed. He’s right. Try showing up at your hunting club, I mean a large club where they have a hunt scheduled, maybe 50 or so members together, and bring your AR. Hunters and fishermen both “eat their own” consistently, calling for regulations on others as long as the regulations don’t affect “them”
Gun Owners of America is ahead of you, I have already emailed both of my Senators and Representatives and will advise all of my friends.
Hitler did it. Stalin did it. Mao did it. Chavez did it. Castro did it. etc. etc. etc. Wash rinse. Repeat.
I notice there is no time limit for keeping of records of any checks.
IOW any universal check becomes a universal registration.
With the 1st and 2nd gone the rest are meaningless because you have no way left to complain.
I’m not sure I disagree with him on that point. I’m a moderator on a popular hunting site and FAR more hunters than I would expect have that “You don’t need” attitude.
Some hunters, like other groups, don’t care about bans until/unless it about THIER preferred weapon and they are slow to aid causes or write their representatives on issue that don’t effect them directly.
It’s infuriating and extremely short sighted.
But then I was amazed to learn a few of them voted for Obama in the first place.
Our constitutional rights are upheld in the courts. So why does this not make me feel better? Because I was once a fetus.
There is a reason we don't contact them. THEY NEVER REPSOND. NEVER!
They ignore us and cave on almost every issue. They are worthless in my opinion.
I think the pressure has to be kept up in the house.
I SUSPECT this is all a dog and pony show and Boehner has sold out the US to give them the long term record keeping (aka registration) and capacity limits.
DC is out of touch with citizens and is only listening to the NYC media.
Why do we keep calling them weapons? They are guns until they are aimed at someone. Then it is a weapon. Maybe using the right terminology will change some peoples idea of a gun.
I sent email to Saxby Chambliss Johnny Isakson and rep Paul Broun requesting a no vote on the above bills...I don’t know if it will do any good or not
The girly men of FNF this morning were agast at all those scarry guns. The dark haired toupe looking person especially.
Well that's the goal, now, isn't it (that's a rhetorical question).
Go to www.ruger.com. Ruger set up an email site. They take your address info and generate an email that goes to every local, state, Congress rep and the POTUS against new gun laws. Last I saw the site had sent up to 740,000 emails. The site is a little under 3 weeks old. Get on it and send the emails. Even the NY owners need to do that so the Dem reps from rural areas understand the anger at them. Many state reps and Congress are counting responses before they decide to act.
We've heard time and time again that representatives getting voluminous feedback from their constituents can be made to change their minds on topics.
It does good - but don't stop at just one letter. Mail the same latter every week until this is over (for this session)!
I agree with the author that this legislation can pass.
My trio of congressional losers is John F’n Kerry (”I served in Vietnam”), Liz “Liawatha” Warren, and Jim “Bagman” McGovern. They remain such great champions of the 2nd Amendment. /S
Universal check = universal registration.
Then universal registration => universal confiscation => universal sequestration (optional step) => universal annihilation.
The final solution.
we also have to pressure the media, ESPECCIALLY ADVERTISERS.
the MSM is not running silent to pass this.
It is the inside the beltway country club that we have to address.
The USA is being played for fools. The politicials want this. The politicians HATE the first amendemnt and the second amendment. Pelosi would ban the third if he socialists had power.
which is absolutely illegal per the firearm owners protection act of 1986. Blatant violation of federal law equals impeachable offense.
Does anyone (who perhaps uses it) know how long the current NICS system retains a record of the check - or if at all?
Time to start preparing for 2014 from NOW.
Primary anyone who votes for this.
But as in 1984 war “against evil” never ends. The jackbooted thug will be grinding new enemies into the pavement.
So, you on the left, take note. You are next.
We have....we have, believe me. I get frustrated by getting all these emails from companies and organizations that have bought my name, email and phone number from a number of the online gun/ammo/accessory retailers with whom I do a lot of business.
Nearly all are blurbs about things I’ve seen here previously, many are a little too alarmist. ALL end with pleas for money.
Finally, I don’t like unsigned editorials even though I agree with a lot of the points made, even though they are just preaching to the choir who wrote the sermon for them.
“You are silent, because you think it is someone elses job.”
No, I think most gun owners are silent because they know that yelling and screaming about it won’t change anything at this point. It didn’t stop Obamacare, and it probably won’t stop whatever gun control crap they want to pass. The ballot box, jury box, and the soap box have failed, so why should we continue to behave as if we live in a functioning republic?
not is they repeal that law with a new law.
it is a mere law.
feinstien made it clear, politicians agree with her, they R and D want to abolis ALL private ownership over time. This is just a slow boil version of the law.
Hunting is going to be sniper issues. This is the divide and conquer strategy. Hunters can be buffoons who “don’t get it”. The foolishly think they are protecting themselves by saying “nobody needs” like good little party members.
For the good of the party they will be ordered to give up their “hobby” in the name of safety. .... for the childrens.
The NICS will not be used to establish any system for the registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions or dispositions, except with respect to persons prohibited from receiving a firearm by 18 U.S.C. 922(g) or (n) or by state law.
Bottom line is yes, all NICS checks are stored for audit.
Some of us remember the bailouts we were told would never pass. Some of us remember the Obamacare bill that would never pass. Some of us remember just a week or so ago when the GOP was going to stand firm on the debt limit and the fiscal cliff...
Going to be a rough year.
I would advise all of you to do the same.
It is absolutely vital that all of our voices be heard, loud and clear.
I have received form letters back from a number of them and responded with a personalized letter than I drafted myself. I am going to reproduce it here, in case any of you want to use it, in part or in whole:
I appreciate your response, but must correct your thinking on several matters about which many of your colleagues are incorrect as a matter of fact and logic.
Background checks are already conducted by every Federal Firearms Licensed (FFL) dealer as a matter of current law, and they are conducted as a matter of course during each and every sale of a firearm, new or used by such dealers.
In addition, the notion of a gun show loophole is a false one. Every firearm sold by a licensed dealer at gun shows in New Hampshire and in every other state is, and must be accompanied by the signing of Form 4473. This form contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID number, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS.
Private (interpersonal) sales of legally-owned firearms between individuals have always been excluded from Federal regulation, as a proper respect for property rights and the 2nd Amendment both demand. Any attempt to regulate such sales would be impracticable without a level of government intrusion inconsistent with any reasonable concept of freedom, and would be impossible to enforce absent a police state atmosphere. And, as is the case with all gun laws, it would negatively impact law-abiding citizens almost exclusively.
High capacity magazines are presently owned by millions of Americans (including myself), and are of enormous utility in providing sufficient protection in the face of a mortal threat, especially one from several sources. Any attempt to ban them would be largely ignored - especially by criminals. The weapons that make use of such magazines are highly various, ranging from modern sporting rifles (falsely termed "assault weapons" by anti-gun activists, who mistake them for fully-automatic weapons of the kind carried by our military, or else willfully ignore the difference) to many commonly-owned semi-automatic pistols, which millions of us depend on for home security and self-defense every day.
I urge you to think about these matters in a calm and dispassionate way. Please do not give in to the rank emotionalism that pervades too much of our popular culture with regard to firearms.
As a long-time weapons owner, a concealed-carry permit holder, and as a father too, I am deeply saddened and troubled by what happened in Connecticut last year. But I also realize that such incidents are exceedingly rare and have actually been declining over time, regardless of media coverage that seems to make people think otherwise.
We do not have a "gun" problem in America - 99.95% of all firearms owners do not use their weapons in criminal activities.
We do, however, have a deep and abiding cultural problem: the glorification of violence in our entertainment industry, including a broader disregard for the value of human life.
We also have a crime problem: too many career criminals are walking the streets owning to inadequate enforcement of existing laws and lax judicial standards for punishment in cases of recidivism.
We have a personal responsibility problem: too many people in America willfully ignore their duties to themselves, their families and their fellow citizens by engaging in harmful and negligent behavior. Rampant drug abuse is one example. Having multiple children without providing support and care for them in a stable family is another. Not properly securing firearms in the home is sometimes, another.
Finally, we have a public mental health problem: for over forty years, a determined legal movement to de-institutionalize the mentally ill has resulted in city streets that are increasingly unsafe and a lack of proper diagnosis and treatment for those incapable of discerning right and wrong and reality from fantasy.
Let us address the real problems in our society and not take a politically "easy way out" that will in fact only affect the vast majority of decent, upstanding and law-abiding citizens who not coincidentally, stand ready to assist both the law enforcement community and our fellow citizens every single day.
I am proud to be an armed American, as is my birthright. I have 80 million brothers and sisters who feel the same way. Let us grieve for the children lost in Connecticut as we should, but let us find better ways of stopping such awful events without losing our freedom.
Thanks you for your consideration,
Yes we should continue to fight by speaking out.
the 300 did not give up and go home and cry to mommy because those 1000000+ persian were being mean.
the Alamo did not just give up because they were surrounded by a clueless general.
the list goes on...
you must keep fighting and not be scared of boogyman Mrs. feinstein.
The younger generation has a different view, but that is the situation today.
if they have been maintaining a database of non-NFA firearms owners prior to changing the law, they have broken a federal law. If it is shown that it was done with Obama’s blessing, it is an impeachable offense-high crimes and misdemeanors.
Your post prompted me to send an e-mail to my reps. A lot of good it will do(I’m in NM) since they are both Dems but I did my part.
I know a few like that. Not all, certainly, but they are out there. Mostly Democrats who like their guns, but think Modern Sporting Rifles are too much for people to own.
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