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Are American Gun Owners a Bunch of Fools?
Gunsamerica ^ | 1/25/13

Posted on 01/25/2013 6:30:08 AM PST by pabianice

The American gun owning public is being duped again, just like we were duped the two weeks before the election when we were convinced that Romney was ahead by several percentage points. The media, including our “friends” at Fox, Drudge, and other “conservative” outlets, are attempting to sell us the concept that the “assault weapon ban” legislation can’t pass, and this is a lie. We are told that Bill Clinton sternly warned his party that they will be punished in the mid-terms, and that the NRA is “too powerful” for any real legislation to make it through congress. This is also a lie. Behind our backs, the political machine is crafting public opinion in what have become the majority voting blocks to convince national and state legislators that they are safe for the next election… and they are safe. American gun owners didn’t show up in force for the last election, and we are not feared as a voting block any longer. Don’t be a fool and believe it when they tell us we can’t lose. We are going to get beaten again if we don’t act. And this time it isn’t a slippery slope. This time they are going to outlaw an entire class of guns with no loopholes.

If you are on the GunsAmerica email list, or you are clicking in from the website, you are probably a gun owner of some type (or you are desperately trying to buy your first gun before they ban them), and you may feel that we are “preaching to the choir.” But there is also a 90% chance that YOU HAVE NOT CONTACTED YOUR LEGISLATORS to let them know that you are strongly against any kind of weapon ban, or any increase in our national or state gun laws whatsoever.

You are silent, because you think it is someone else’s job. But it is your job, and you have to make yourself be heard. Call and email your legislators today.

The NRA came into this fight almost a month late and their response has been anything but well received. Even though President Obama’s kids are guarded by armed guards in schools, and even though Dianne Feinstein actually possesses one of San Francisco’s few concealed carry permits, the very sane suggestions of the NRA have fallen on mostly deaf ears. The media , including Fox, has beat up Wayne Lapierre and is inflating every shooting incident in the country right now, trying to keep the gun control energy as high as possible, so that the legislators will have the courage to vote against the wishes of the majority of their constituents. The only way they can do this is their constituents, meaning YOU, remain silent.

You must call and write your legislators today. Let them know that you know who they are. You know their name, and you will remember how they voted come election day. Don’t just use the web form, and don’t just call their Washington, DC numbers. Call their local numbers and tell their staffers that you and ever gun owner you know will be watching them, and funding their opponents if they vote for this ineffective and stupid legislation. At some point you have to take action, and you have to go that extra step, and now is the time.

Most gun owners, like most of America, are ignorant to world history. Most people don’t know that Kristallnacht, the famous “night of broken glass” in Germany in 1939, was actually a gun roundup. It is considered the beginning of the Holocaust, but what most people leave out is that Hitler published sweeping gun confiscation legislation on November 11, 1938, the day after the famous Nazi rioting. You will find the same gun confiscations in the pages of the dictatorial and murderous takeovers of China, Cambodia, Ukraine and throughout history. The first thing every government spinning out of control does is register the guns. Then they round up the guns. Then they declare martial law, putting the military in charge. Do you feel like America has been heading in the right direction? Do you wonder why “prepping” has become more popular than NASCAR? The government knows that America is a powder keg waiting to pop, and they are trying to use a manufactured crisis to take away your guns.

In President Obama’s speech, which took place right in the middle of SHOT Show of course, he played to “law abiding gun owners,” specifically calling out to our petition that we all signed at the beginning of this crisis. The President actually had the nerve to say that this wasn’t about politics and the tactics of a dictatorial regime, despite the fact that rifles, including AR-15 and other magazine fed rifles, are only used in a tiny percentage of gun violence. He even admitted this during the debates. He was appealing to middle class casual gun owners and hunters. They want us to turn on ourselves. They want the old hunting crowd to say “I don’t know why anyone would need a gun like that,” or “why would you need a magazine with more than 7 rounds.” They want the Ipad generation to fall into lockstep with their ideals, and for the old hunting crowd to back them up. We saw it at SHOT Show. Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment, and this will be no different.

The people who outvoted us this past November don’t believe in the Constitution. The Ipad generation believes what they see on TV. While all those TV personalities hire armed guards and carry guns themselves to protect their own life and property, they are building public opinion against our 2nd Amendment freedom to keep and bear arms. The Ipad generation doesn’t understand the nature of mankind, and the implicit design of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Holocaust was 60 years ago, not 600 years ago YOU TOUCHSCREEN ADDICTED IDIOTS. This isn’t about President Obama. It isn’t about what happens next month or next year. The 2nd Amendment must be preserved if our freedom is to be preserved. If we give anything today it will be the next thing we give at the next crisis, then the next thing we give at the next crisis, until we are all defending ourselves with airguns like they do in European Union today. Please contact your legislators today


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awb2; banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/25/2013 6:30:13 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The slippery slope has begun.

First demonize the rich.

Second, demonize the gun owners.

Third, demonize the free speech radicals who are speaking out for their rights.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 6:39:12 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: pabianice

There are two reasons right off the top of the list that they won’t do this.

1. The pro-gun crowd is populated by both conservatives AND liberals. Women’s rights peoople see hand guns as the great liberator.

2. Hitler did it. He made it very difficult for anyone else to do it in western civilization without being compared to Hitler. It increases the difficulty substantially.

There are other reasons, not least of which is the sheer quantity of guns and ammo out there.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 6:40:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: pabianice

Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?


4 posted on 01/25/2013 6:40:56 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: pabianice

I had same thought.

People should be writing their congressmen!


5 posted on 01/25/2013 6:41:39 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: cuban leaf

Bump.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 6:42:21 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: pabianice

Can’t trust the politicians, but the message from us needs to be very simply “NO”.

My rights are guaranteed by the Constitution, written by a group of much more intelligent and honorable leaders than what we have now. No matter WHAT they pass, I’m not doing it. My next doctor’s form will likely have profanity on it as well. Just NO.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 6:42:40 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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When the author said "Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment...", I felt like sending him to his corner for a timeout.

Otherwise, I agreed with a great deal of what he said. I have written every one of my legislators, advising them that I believe there is an all out assault on the 2nd Amendment, and they need to grow a pair and stand firmly against the onslaught.

8 posted on 01/25/2013 6:44:17 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Living in NYS - does it matter \one bit what I say anymore?”

It feels that way sometimes. Schumer and Gillibrand are lost causes but depending on what district you live in you may influence your Representative. We will need every vote in the house of representatives to win. I encourage you to do your part and write.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 6:47:50 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
People should be writing their congressmen!

Not only your congressman, but every member on the House Judiciary committee (plus one bill went to the Ways and Means committee).

If we can convince them to bottle these bills up in committee, they never get to the floor for a vote and your congressman's opinion will be mooted.

The gun grabber's legislative (National) bill compendium, updated (almost) daily:

House Bills:
H.R. 21: NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Moran, James P., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 34: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 117: Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Holt, Rush, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 137: Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 138: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 141: Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 142: Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act. Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L., Referred to the Ways and Means committee.
H.R. 227: Buyback Our Safety Act. Sponsor: Rep Deutch, Theodore E., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 236: Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Langevin, James R., Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act. Sponsor: Rep Meng, Grace, Referred to the Judicary committee.
H.R. 329: To amend the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 to encourage States to provide records to the National Instant Background Check System.
H.R. 404: To enhance criminal penalties for straw purchasers of firearms.

Senate Bills:
S.22: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows.
S.33: A bill to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
S.34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
S.35: A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.
S.54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking. ("trafficking = "private sales")

And an interesting side note:
H.R. 339: To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

And one to support! H.R. 410: To provide that any executive action infringing on the Second Amendment has no force or effect, and to prohibit the use of funds for certain purposes.

10 posted on 01/25/2013 6:49:57 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: pabianice
"Most gun owners, like most of America, are ignorant to world history. Most people don’t know that Kristallnacht, the famous “night of broken glass” in Germany in 1939, was actually a gun roundup. It is considered the beginning of the Holocaust, but what most people leave out is that Hitler published sweeping gun confiscation legislation on November 11, 1938, the day after the famous Nazi rioting."

Indeed, I had not known that, and I have been studying gun issues for many years...though my interest has mostly been in the criminology and gun defense statistics. That latter seems to be a point that is being totally ignored in the current gun debate, and it is probably the strongest argument "our side" has.

11 posted on 01/25/2013 6:51:55 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: pabianice
The media, including our “friends” at Fox, Drudge, and other “conservative” outlets, are attempting to sell us the concept that the “assault weapon ban” legislation can’t pass, and this is a lie.

I guess I haven't heard this. What I have heard is that it will literally be a bloody mistake for anyone who passes this kind of invasion of our constitutional rights.

12 posted on 01/25/2013 6:58:06 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

“When the author said “Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment...”, I felt like sending him to his corner for a timeout”

Sometimes a wake up call is needed. He’s right. Try showing up at your hunting club, I mean a large club where they have a hunt scheduled, maybe 50 or so members together, and bring your AR. Hunters and fishermen both “eat their own” consistently, calling for regulations on others as long as the regulations don’t affect “them”


13 posted on 01/25/2013 6:58:45 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: pabianice

Gun Owners of America is ahead of you, I have already emailed both of my Senators and Representatives and will advise all of my friends.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 6:59:12 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: pabianice

Hitler did it. Stalin did it. Mao did it. Chavez did it. Castro did it. etc. etc. etc. Wash rinse. Repeat.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 7:01:01 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: grobdriver

I notice there is no time limit for keeping of records of any checks.

IOW any universal check becomes a universal registration.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 7:02:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tired&retired
As they say “to get rid of the 1st you have to get rid of the 2nd first”.

With the 1st and 2nd gone the rest are meaningless because you have no way left to complain.

17 posted on 01/25/2013 7:03:28 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: deoetdoctrinae

I’m not sure I disagree with him on that point. I’m a moderator on a popular hunting site and FAR more hunters than I would expect have that “You don’t need” attitude.

Some hunters, like other groups, don’t care about bans until/unless it about THIER preferred weapon and they are slow to aid causes or write their representatives on issue that don’t effect them directly.

It’s infuriating and extremely short sighted.
But then I was amazed to learn a few of them voted for Obama in the first place.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 7:04:32 AM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: rockrr

Our constitutional rights are upheld in the courts. So why does this not make me feel better? Because I was once a fetus.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 7:05:35 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: School of Rational Thought
People should be writing their congressmen!

Agreed and it doesn't matter if your congressmen are republican or democrat. Write to them anyway.
20 posted on 01/25/2013 7:08:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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