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1 posted on 01/16/2013 12:09:39 PM PST by TurboZamboni
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Affordable Care Act - ObamaCare, euphemistically.

Who does it benefit? Who does it hurt?

It benefits lawyers and power mad politicians. It hurts everyone else.


2 posted on 01/16/2013 12:12:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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Nothing but a scare tactic. If outlawing tax loopholes were as easy as adding an “anti abuse” provision the IRS would have done so long ago to all taxes across the board.


3 posted on 01/16/2013 12:15:51 PM PST by apillar
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We are sliding, no, rocketing int full-blown fascism, where we still have private capital but are told in minute detail what to do with it.

Now companies will be told how many people to employ, and for how many hours, and what benefits to give them.

Plus local fascist rules like what kind of oil to put in the fryolators and how big the drink cups must be, and where to stand to smoke tobacco.


4 posted on 01/16/2013 12:16:15 PM PST by DBrow
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Actually the administration is correct on this. Directive 10-289 specifically prohibits business owners from changing their workforce, prices, or output.


5 posted on 01/16/2013 12:19:10 PM PST by Brownie63
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Have we really come to the point where following the law is an illegal activity?

-PJ

6 posted on 01/16/2013 12:19:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Sure will be awful hard to prove you needed a person more than 28 hrs...and were therefore in violation.

I can almost see a cottage industry of labor finders with a pool of fast foodians ready to work 20 hrs for one place and 20 hrs for another....they get their hours and the owners shed overhead....


7 posted on 01/16/2013 12:20:08 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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I predict that when they go bankrupt and close their doors the feral government will prosecute them for evading Obamacare mandates.


10 posted on 01/16/2013 12:31:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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Could further distortion and abuse of 0bamacare (outside its original scope) by our own gov’t cause a revisit by our SCOTUS? I would think that is likely. Roberts will be blackmailed again, however.


11 posted on 01/16/2013 12:33:08 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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“The rules is what we say the rules is.” -—Obama Administration Memo


12 posted on 01/16/2013 12:35:25 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

What? But they promised!

IRS: No agents will enforce Obamacare mandate

http://times247.com/articles/irs-won-t-use-agents-to-enforce-obamacare-mandate

IRS: We Won’t Be Tax Enforcers for the Obamacare Penalty

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/15827-irs-agents-we-wont-be-tax-enforcers-for-the-obamacare-penalty/

17 posted on 01/16/2013 12:46:05 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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The country is almost full-fledged communist. There is no such thing as owning a business. You just have the investment, the expenses, the work, the responsibilities, the headaches, and maybe a little profit. Maybe. One level of government or other is always up your a$$ telling you what to do, who to hire and how big your bathrooms have to be.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 12:47:37 PM PST by I want the USA back (Almost there. 4 more years of 0bama and we're there.)
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If I owned several franchises I’d incorporate them seperately and be done with it.


20 posted on 01/16/2013 12:52:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To anybody just being born now: this really was a great country, once. About 60 years ago. Was. It isn’t any more.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 1:08:19 PM PST by I want the USA back (Welcome to the former United States of America)
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The IRS - government - threatens........ Anybody still doubt about the tyranny in America?


26 posted on 01/16/2013 1:13:42 PM PST by Dapper 26
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These bastards really break our stones. What if the business isn’t making a profit? Sometimes you are just barely making it, but you don’t close the business because you know it will get better. You continue to pay your employees because it’s the right thing to do, but you don’t take a salary because you’re an honest person.

The fools who gave us this a$$hole law have no bloody idea of what it means to have a business. In the liberal “minds”, business owners are evil capitalists who exploit their workers and earn obscene profits on the backs and sweat of their employees.

The end goal is to have all the means of production in the hands of the government. See communist manifesto.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 1:27:56 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism is an incurable failure of the mind's ability to think rationally.)
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After a while they define 20 hours as full time.

Here’s an idea, you liberal a$$hole$. Use your own money (not ours) to open a business. Get the required approvals and registrations. Pay the fees. Pay rent. Buy supplies and equipment. Pay employees. All from your own money or your investors’. Work your a$$ off for 2 years to make it profitable. Pay the sales taxes on all sales. Pay worker’s comp, unemployment, payroll tax, insurance and electricity. If there’s any profit left, pay 30% of it to the government.

If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you should. You created this anti-business climate. So shut your liberal pie-hole.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 1:41:39 PM PST by I want the USA back (Yup, i'm mad.)
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Wonder what would happen if all those large employers sent everyone home for a couple of weeks while they reconsider whether they wish to continue to keep their businesses open. I’ll bet the government hot shots would wet their panties. Business owners need to rebel big time. The government can’t force them to keep their doors open.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 1:54:53 PM PST by txrefugee
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Who needs the Gestapo when you have the IRS ...


36 posted on 01/16/2013 2:16:58 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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South Carolina is getting around all the IRS BS by passing legislation to throw these gestapo pigs into prison for five years if they try to enforce any aspect of obumacare.

Oh, I forgot. These IRS Rambo accountants have bought 2 billion rounds of ammo and will shoot cop-killer bullets out their arses to get us all. At least that’s what I’m hearing from a small group of FR surrender monkeys.


44 posted on 01/16/2013 3:51:27 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies.

Employers have been doing this for 15 years now...

The author of seems to think this is something new.

The author needs to reboot himself.

47 posted on 01/16/2013 6:56:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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