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Gangs need gun control, not the law abiding gun owners
ibradmasters ^ | 1-2013

Posted on 01/15/2013 7:06:16 PM PST by doug from upland

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1 posted on 01/15/2013 7:06:19 PM PST by doug from upland
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A well researched and written essay Doug. However, I believe that Hollywood and the internet war games deserve quite a bit of blame, especially for their influence on younger males with access to weapons.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 7:19:19 PM PST by ab01
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I just don’t know how much affect video games can have.

If we want to get serious, we do not need one more laws. We need to have an all out war on gangs. Do not let them congregate. Three strikes in federal crimes. Put them behind electrified barbed wire in the Arizona desert and feed them baloney sandwiches.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 7:24:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland

Every gang member is a potential democrat, got to be nice to them!


4 posted on 01/15/2013 7:28:59 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: doug from upland

Now you’re talking absolute common sense!!!


5 posted on 01/15/2013 7:39:54 PM PST by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: doug from upland

Very good...thanks!

Now git your butt across MY new border and re-lo-cate, will ya?


6 posted on 01/15/2013 7:55:48 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Working on some new business interests. If they pan out, they will be lucrative and I will have to stay here.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 8:00:20 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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WHen drugs were legal in pre WW II hawaii, there was no drug related crime. The Volstead Act attempted to outlaw alcohol. It failed.

The War on Drugs attempts to outlaw drugs. It has been a total failure.

See the pattern?


8 posted on 01/15/2013 8:02:13 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: doug from upland
Three strikes in federal crimes

First, excellent post. You put a lot of work into that and it shows. I agree with your take on video games also. However, I do have a problem with three strikes. I am a simple man. One strike does it for me for certain crimes. Three strikes is creeping liberalism that basically says to criminals after their first offense that they have two more offenses. Then they know the prisons will be full and get out anyway.

Combatting crime is an integral component of all violence in America, not just gun violence. Real consequences for real crimes are needed. Our prisons need to be reformed to punish in a humane manner instead of being places to learn to be come a better criminal. Once a man goes to prison he should never want to go there again. One strike is enough.

9 posted on 01/15/2013 8:06:11 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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The article was not my work. I just commented.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 8:09:08 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland

My bad. I have seen your posts and you are very thoughtful. I thought it was you.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 8:11:12 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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Thanks for the kind words. :)


12 posted on 01/15/2013 8:14:31 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland

Yabut!
Yabut!

There’s QUILT stores here!!!!!!!

I’ll contact She Who Quilts and work on her! ;)


13 posted on 01/15/2013 8:31:11 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: doug from upland

The gangs need to be treated like any other terrorist group. They should be declared terrorist organizations and simple membership should be a criminal offense.

Any gang should be held responsible for any crimes committed by its individual members, and any violent crimes committed by gang members should be treated with “hate crime” status.

Just like happened in Australia, they should create a prison island, where murdering gang members can be exiled and forced to fend for themselves, as they fight each other to the death.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 8:31:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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Conservatives and supporters of the 2nd amendment the Obama regime is using the 2nd amendment argument to blame gun owners for its inability to deal with the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings commited in areas under their solid control using illegally obtained firearms. Their solution to those inner city problems is to remove those rights provided by the constitution to have and bear arms from all US citizens.

None of those 19 so called “reforms” and unconstitutional efforts being edicted by who some call an emporer do not deal with the following issues briefly outlined below . They won’t because instead of creating a uniformly democratic society where every citizen has an equal voice no matter what their race or ethnicity.

Their policies have grouped races and ethnic groups by gerrymandering congressional districts where much of this criminal activity occurs. GOPES {goverment of the people (republican party) elites} see this issue as a 3rd rail because most of it is black on black or illegal vs illegal (Mexican) activity . GOPES are also afraid to say that policy may have also increased racial tension but again GOPES accept this because of the influence of mainline socialist media which would be accusing them of “racism” if they dare to question it.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:09 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province let a professor rule it." Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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I suggest they try out their new gun laws on gangs first. Let us know how it works out.


16 posted on 01/15/2013 9:39:58 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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I do not understand why Obama, Biden, et al do not go right to the root of the problem and simply outlaw all crime. That would be about effective as more gun laws. These people are to naive and clueless...


17 posted on 01/15/2013 10:06:29 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: GladesGuru

95% of the population doesn’t get your point.
It is just sickening what constitutes public discourse.
if those morons in washington think they can control 300 million guns well
that is like believing a 3000 page bill no one read would reduced health costs.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 10:43:23 PM PST by genghis
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if swat teams would have been used the way they were sold to the public, there’d be a lot less gangs and thugs running around. sadly they are not used for their declared purpose and because of that, here we are.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 10:44:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: doug from upland

Good article, dfu. Thanks.

We declared a “War on Poverty” - and destroyed our society and created more poverty.
We declared a “War on Drugs” - and destroyed our society and created more drug criminals.
We declared a “War on Terror” - and destroyed our society and created more terrorist actions.

In each case the supposed focus was used as the target of the actions, yet most of the results swept up mainly law-abiding citizens caught in the web of poorly cast regulations.

“Gun Control” is nothing to do with Guns - it is all about CONTROL.


20 posted on 01/16/2013 12:45:13 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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