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NY Times: Obama Plans 19 Executive Orders on Gun Control
Newsmax ^ | Tuesday, 15 Jan 2013 04:04 AM | Hiram Reisner

Posted on 01/15/2013 8:55:33 AM PST by Olog-hai

President Barack Obama plans this week to present 19 separate executive orders on gun control and will press for comprehensive legislation to expand gun-purchase background checks, lawmakers made privy to the president’s agenda said Monday, according to the New York Times.

The biggest congressional fight on gun control in early 20 years—which also includes efforts to ban assault weapons and high-capacity clips—could be launched as soon as Wednesday, the Times reports.

But considering the president’s expected inability to get acceptance for his plan through Congress, Obama will not shy away from using executive orders for restrictions he deems necessary, according to the Times.

Those actions are expected to include limits on guns imported from overseas, pressure on federal agencies to improve sharing of mental health records, and directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct research on gun violence, according to lawmakers informed of the president’s plans, the Times reports. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; executiveorder; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/15/2013 8:55:43 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

And the Congress will not shy away from impeaching him nor the military from overthrowing him.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 9:03:24 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Olog-hai
Obama will not shy away from using executive orders for restrictions he deems necessary,...

Maybe people are just keeping their powder dry until they see what Obama actually puts out, but there had better be some forcible responses. At this point, except for one Congressman from Texas, I have not heard one peep from Republicans.

Republicans in NY appear to be agreeing to an unconstitutional anti-gun law. If Reince Prebuis has a prayer of EVER seeing any money from the rank-and-file the Republicans had better wake up and start acting like our representatives or they need to be primaried!

3 posted on 01/15/2013 9:04:49 AM PST by Obadiah (Those who will not hear the messengers of peace, shall be made to hear the messengers of war.)
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To: DarthVader

It won’t be the Republicans impeaching him. They don’t have the cajones to even speak ill of him for fear of being called racist. Face it. We now have a dictator and as long as he is able to steal from the productive to give to the scum, he will be able to stay in power. Welcome to the New America.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 9:07:23 AM PST by mort56
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To: Olog-hai

Carry on. Buy RGR stock. Buy guns. Buy ammo.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 9:07:49 AM PST by samadams2000
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To: DarthVader
And the Congress will not shy away from impeaching him nor the military from overthrowing him.

Never happen. The Tyrant in Chief is outta control. We The People have to stop this madness.

6 posted on 01/15/2013 9:09:08 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: samadams2000
Buy ammo.

Good luck.
I went to 2 WalMart stores this morning. They had nothing but a few shotgun shells.
Everything else was empty.
7 posted on 01/15/2013 9:09:58 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: samadams2000

I like Ruger so much in addition to my 45LC Bisley Blackhawk and GP-100, I was lucky enough to order, and GET, two SR1911s....I’ve since added ambidextrous safeties from Novak (Ruguer Special), and the large laser etched eagle cocobolo grips.....a pair of very sweet 45s


8 posted on 01/15/2013 9:10:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

I think this is an “end justifies the means” moment. I believe the end game is to bring us in line with the U.N. gun control treaty that failed to get through congress. We won’t know for sure until his 19 points come out but I would not be surprised if it is a mirror image to the U.N. Treaty.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 9:11:21 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Olog-hai

It would sure be nice if someone in power in government asked “why in the ‘F’ does the NYT have an open line to the Community Organizer In Chief?”


10 posted on 01/15/2013 9:12:54 AM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Olog-hai

Enough is enough. This tyrant has no regard for the Constitution or the balance of power. Remove this fool, dear neutered congresscritters, Dem and Pub alike. He respects NONE of you, your voices, or those of the majority of Americans. It’s WAY past time to stop the insanity.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 9:14:33 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Olog-hai

The bastard hasn’t even been sworn in a 2nd time and he’s already going dictator on us.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 9:15:16 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: mort56; Puppage

You little sissy hand wringers need to get out more. You live in a bubble. There are things afoot.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 9:16:01 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: marstegreg

Spray and pray technique being used here ironically. Put 19 EO’s on the table but only get 1 or 2 passed - mission accomplished. Surely some members of Congress have an IQ high enough to see through what’s being done here. I guess the question is - do any of them have the brains or tge balls to stop and question this deception.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 9:17:19 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marstegreg

Spray and pray technique being used here ironically. Put 19 EO’s on the table but only get 1 or 2 passed - mission accomplished. Surely some members of Congress have an IQ high enough to see through what’s being done here. I guess the question is - do any of them have the brains or the balls to stop and question this chicanery / deception.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 9:18:04 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Obadiah

Maybe you meant “forceful response” when you wrote “forcible response”??

I don’t know what DC Republicans will do, but it seems to me a number of states and counties should render null & void these unlawful edicts, whether they be from Congress or Obama.

And skillful lawyers for freedom should attack these with legal arguments. Can you believe it? Beck was on the radio this a.m. outlining how these edicts could work and it is totally against all common sense and our nation’s founding.

For instance if you had someone who was victimized by violence such as rape or kidnapping, murder etc and that person sought psychiatric counseling, they could be labeled as “mentally ill” and if they had a weapon it could be confiscated. Their doctor would be obligated to report about their mental state and about whether they owned guns. Or if you had a child needing psychiatric help you had better keep it to yourself and not seek such help for them, because the second it becomes known, if you have a gun in your home you would be forced to relinquish it. Or if a family member with alzheimers moves in to be under your care, well, out has to go your guns. All of this would fall under mental health-related restrictions.

Beck went on and on and that was just one type of situation he raised.

Again, state and local governments need to put the kabosh on this stuff and confront any feds who attempt to “assault” citizens in their homes by showing up and demanding their guns.


16 posted on 01/15/2013 9:18:16 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: Olog-hai
Those actions are expected to include limits on guns imported from overseas,

Obama has already made domestic gun manufacturers wealthy.

17 posted on 01/15/2013 9:19:34 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Olog-hai

My guess is that these proposed LAWS will generate 10,000+ pages of poorly thought out regulations. Typical lib nonsense


18 posted on 01/15/2013 9:21:14 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: Olog-hai

No gun control is going to pass through Congress and Oblahblah does not have the authority to ban tactical rifles and high cap mags by EO. If he tries it he is going to be sorry.

The blowback will be intense. Maybe it will be a good thing if he tries to go too far.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 9:22:37 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jsanders2001

Issuing 19 E. O. s is liks spraying the crowd with an AK-47.


20 posted on 01/15/2013 9:23:06 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: samadams2000
Buy RGR... guns.

Bought two so far this month and looking for the third!

21 posted on 01/15/2013 9:23:25 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: Olog-hai

“pressure on federal agencies to improve sharing of mental health records”

Roe v Wade was a decision that was to protect the (supposed) right to privacy between a doctor and patient. His executive order mandating the elimination of that privacy will effectively dictatorially negate Roe! He is doing what they were projecting was Romney’s end goal.

Idiot libtards never learn!


22 posted on 01/15/2013 9:23:52 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Olog-hai
President Barack Obama plans this week to present 19 separate executive orders on gun control and will press for comprehensive legislation

Whenever I see "comprehensive" in front of "legislation" I know it's bad. And it was a Republican who came up with that doublespeak.

23 posted on 01/15/2013 9:25:27 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DarthVader

Military’s and socilist leaderships get along great.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 9:25:37 AM PST by securityman
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To: DarthVader
“And the Congress will not shy away from impeaching him nor the military from overthrowing him.”

Dreamer. There is no way the senate will go with it.

25 posted on 01/15/2013 9:26:32 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: DarthVader

I pray you are correct. This shall not stand. (And I probably do need to get out more.)


26 posted on 01/15/2013 9:27:29 AM PST by Obadiah (Those who will not hear the messengers of peace, shall be made to hear the messengers of war.)
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To: txrangerette

I guess government psychiatrist on O’s dole will deem who is “mentally ill” or not. I’m guessing the new national gun registration list will be handed to them and they will work off that list from the gun owners with the largest caches first then move on to the Tea Party list and so on. This sounds an awfully like methods used by tyrants in the past...King Charles, King James II, Hitler, Stalin, Marx, Castro, Mao Tze Tung, Chavez, etc...I see a clear pattern here. When will the liberal idiots with all of their self poclaimed intellectual supremacy finally admit that history always repeats itself and that men never change?


27 posted on 01/15/2013 9:29:57 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Olog-hai

He is the head law inforcer, not the head law maker. That duty is reserved for the House


28 posted on 01/15/2013 9:30:03 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: Gaffer
SR1911s....I’ve since added ambidextrous safeties from Novak (Ruger Special),

My SR1911 is equipped with tritium night sights and a Crimson Trace. Awesome gun! I love it! It fits in nicely with my other three Rugers.

29 posted on 01/15/2013 9:30:28 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think the key to this is all of this talk about mental health. It must have something to do with Obamacare.. and just think.. if the Democrats and the media get to decide who is crazy, and take their guns away the crazy people..WHO will they pick???

They have already let us know that the NRA, the homeschoolers and the Prepers are on the list, with the”Sandy Hook” coverage.

Who else is “crazy”?


30 posted on 01/15/2013 9:31:50 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: jsanders2001

Good point. Usually, these guys don’t pick and choose, they just ram it through. It is only later that we find out what it really said. That seems to be their M.O. but nothing would surprise me at this point.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 9:32:35 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Georgia Girl 2
No gun control is going to pass through Congress and Oblahblah does not have the authority to ban tactical rifles and high cap mags by EO.

Broad authority to regulate firearms was given to the Executive branch by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968. Under these statutes the Fed established the BATFE, which issues ongoing rulings about administrative questions as they arise, such as "Does this [insert device name here] constitute an NFA weapon under Federal law?"

I suspect that the President does have broad authority under these acts to provide direction to BATFE about how he wants the laws administered, such as (for example) putting all weapons that are cosmetically similar to military rifles on the NFA list, making them subject to federal registration and a $200 transfer tax.

So yeah, I think he can do this. More importantly, HE thinks he can do this. Whether he's right or not will be for the courts to decide, most likely several years from now.

32 posted on 01/15/2013 9:33:15 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Like I said he can try but its going to be his undoing. Obama is no different from Stalin or Mao. They think there is no line in the sand. Guns are the line in the sand here.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 9:38:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Obama is no different from Stalin or Mao.

Perhaps, but I hope not. Both of those guys were in power for a very long time.

34 posted on 01/15/2013 9:40:38 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Olog-hai

I move that we limit EOs to no more than seven per term, if it’s good for ammunition, it should be good for the far more dangerous EOs


35 posted on 01/15/2013 9:42:45 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: securityman; chooseascreennamepat

“Military’s and socialist leaderships get along great.”

Our military does not get along with this government and they are starting to rumble ominously. BTW even Harry Reid is strongly back peddling on a assault weapons ban or other forms of gun control. Just heard him on CNN. I bet he has been given the “Dutch Uncle’s” talk too.


36 posted on 01/15/2013 9:46:20 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: muir_redwoods

He’s issuing 19 EOs and I have a 20 round magazine. Coincidence? I think not.


37 posted on 01/15/2013 9:47:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: samadams2000

I love Ruger

MK II
LCP in .380
Vaquero in .44 mag
10/22
Ruger .44 carbine
Mini-14
Model 77 in .308W

Not that I own those Rugers of course, that would be excessive. Right.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 9:51:44 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: RandallFlagg
"Buy ammo. Good luck. I went to 2 WalMart stores this morning. They had nothing but a few shotgun shells. Everything else was empty."

Too bad. I bought 3 100 round boxes of 40 cal, 4 50 round boxes of 45. They had plenty of 270, 30-06, 308, and shot gun ammo but were out of 223. Walmart will continue to sell guns and ammo. The clerk mentioned they can't sell what they can't buy. There is a major back order for some ammo. That is good in a way. The citizen patriot is becoming armed to the teeth.

39 posted on 01/15/2013 9:52:17 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Olog-hai

Observe Gun Appreciation Day at Your State Capitol!

Saturday, January 19th at noon at your state capitol.

Be heard.
Show up en masse.
No excuses. No hoping that others will attend so that you don't have to.

Show Up!


40 posted on 01/15/2013 9:57:15 AM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Oberon

Edwin Meese just came out and said Obama could be impeached if he tries to enact gun control by EO. He does not have the legal authority to do it. That being said I believe he will try it.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 9:57:34 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: muir_redwoods; Olog-hai; All
I move that we limit EOs to no more than seven per term, if it’s good
for ammunition, it should be good for the far more dangerous EOs
disagree, much less; maybe four...
per immediate review of the Chief Justice of USSC.

42 posted on 01/15/2013 9:58:20 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The blowback will be intense. Maybe it will be a good thing if he tries to go too far.

Maybe so.... it might be healthy to gauge the level of resolve.

43 posted on 01/15/2013 10:00:40 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: Olog-hai
Tell ya what barry. We'll get right on this as soon as we rescue the American economy from immanent collapse from Federal out of control spending.
44 posted on 01/15/2013 10:02:26 AM PST by DManA
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To: Truth2012

In the Soviet Union they labeled just about any opponent to the regime mentally ill and sent them off for “treatment.”


45 posted on 01/15/2013 10:02:39 AM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: chooseascreennamepat

Ya got that right. Including 1000 pages of pork for cronys.


46 posted on 01/15/2013 10:05:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

he has no such authority

he knows he has no such authority

so, what’s he really trying to do?


47 posted on 01/15/2013 10:34:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Olog-hai
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48 posted on 01/15/2013 10:44:45 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Trod Upon

Yep- I notice the rhetoric from the Chris Matthews fans is that all Republicans are crazy- mentally ill. And the Republicans who hold office help them shape this opinion.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 10:49:31 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: chooseascreennamepat
"My guess is that these proposed LAWS will generate 10,000+ pages of poorly thought out regulations. Typical lib nonsense

Exactly. This is going to be a dog and pony show for the cameras and the 50.1% who voted for them to show he cares. In reality, nothing will pass Congress and any attempt to direct Federal agencies to start seizing guns would be a disaster.

50 posted on 01/15/2013 11:15:51 AM PST by aegiscg47
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