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New York Is Moving Quickly to Enact Tough Curbs on Guns
New York Times ^ | Januuary 9, 2013 | By DAVID M. HALBFINGER and THOMAS KAPLAN

Posted on 01/09/2013 8:43:15 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

New York State is nearing agreement on a proposal to put what would be some of the nation’s strictest gun-control laws into effect, including what Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo vowed on Wednesday would be an ironclad ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, and new measures to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people.

Lawmakers in Albany, seeking to send a message to the nation that the recent mass shootings demand swift action, say they hope to vote on the package of legislation as soon as next week.

The Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, a Manhattan Democrat, told reporters on Wednesday that Mr. Cuomo and legislative leaders were “95 percent” of the way toward an agreement. Senate Republicans, considered the only possible obstacle to the governor’s proposal, indicated they did not intend to block a deal. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: New York
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1 posted on 01/09/2013 8:43:21 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I definately think they should keep the guns out of the hands of the criminals and the mentally ill....but don't we have laws about that already?....

they can't control the fringes but they can sure control the middle....more taxes, more regulations, more threats...

2 posted on 01/09/2013 8:47:30 PM PST by cherry
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Are they going to raid the mosques? Islamberg? ANY muslim compound?


3 posted on 01/09/2013 8:49:56 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

the leftist are in an orgasmic frenzy at the notion of disarming the public. That is to be expected. That gun owners are allowing this to happen is what really makes me sick.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 8:50:37 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
new measures to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people

What's that? More signs like:

"Criminals are not allowed to carry guns."

"If you are crazy, you are not allowed to have a gun."


Of course, there are some alternatives to "gun free zones", too:

"Criminal Free Zone"

"Mentally Ill Free Zone, especially if you have a gun"

[/s]

Maybe the existing "Gun Free Zone" signs are just too small. Maybe they just need bigger signs.
5 posted on 01/09/2013 8:50:43 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Cuomo would be wise to fear those he’s trying to make into sitting ducks.

Come on, Cuomo...show us you can disarm the loonies first.

If you CAN’T (and you won’t be able to), lay off the those that wish to defend themselves—if you don’t, you’ll regret it.


6 posted on 01/09/2013 8:56:07 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

Cuomo should publically announce that his security is disarming first. Lets just wait to see how that works before anyone else buys in to his ideas!


7 posted on 01/09/2013 9:02:11 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: cherry

***I definately think they should keep the guns out of the hands of the criminals and the mentally ill....but don’t we have laws about that already?....***

Problem solved! 1968!

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.”

- Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 9:03:08 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The 2010 Census indicates that there are ~18 million males 60 to 75 yr old.

Should 10% of those take out on an average 10 to one, things may change.

9 posted on 01/09/2013 9:07:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: cherry

Well...the ONLY law I would approve is making sure elected officials have NO GUNS around THEM ANYWHERE!!!!


10 posted on 01/09/2013 9:07:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My co-worker came from Brazil and when I asked him how he could leave such a beautiful country he said it was the out of control crime. Told me that guns are illegal in Brazil so only criminals and bodyguards for the rich and powerful have guns. You are not safe anywhere since the crooks are in charge and they take anything they want. They round up people in restaurants on a regular basis and collect their valuables. My co-worker’s sister is a lawyer and she always has a body guard. He said the police are incapable of fighting the amount of crime that takes place. Also, hoards of parentless kids are like rodents in the city, on drugs and killed off like rats by the police.

This is our future if the rats get their way.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 9:10:23 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LBJ (the idiot...) bump!


12 posted on 01/09/2013 9:19:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Brad from Tennessee

News flash - Cuomo is readying legislation to ban wall street con artists, power outages, and pigeons from roosting on public statues.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 9:38:17 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Exploit, kneejerk, exploit, kneejerk. The lowlife, anti-American, anti-Bill of Rights, little Andy Cuomo can’t believe his luck.


14 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Impeach Obama Now.)
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15 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The gun laws they already have on the books are working so well that they might as well add some more. LOL!

"New laws are always a good idea until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown

Democrat politicians are a bunch of buffoons.

16 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Impeach Obama Now.)
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To: TomGuy

If New York bans “assault rifles” well then, New Yorkers possessing said items are criminals or crazy for not meekly turning them in. So it’s sort of a combo Yossarian-Solzhenitsyn-1984 dilemma.
The problem most of us have with the last sane Americans in New York and California turning the lights off and leaving is: NIMBY, keep on movin’ please. Blue state ‘Okies’. Man, there goes the neighborhood.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 10:46:46 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Black marketeers are chomping at the bit. The proof is Fast and Furious.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 11:29:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Are they going to break into the inner city gangs and round up all their black market (and stolen) guns? These are people engaged in the drug related homicides and these homicides are the majority of homicides.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 11:30:00 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I left NY in ‘74 to join the AF - never looked back and proud to be a Mississippian today.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 3:53:08 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: tumblindice
Blue state ‘Okies’.

I lived in Tulsa in the early 80s when the economy was fantastic. Other areas, however, were experiencing slowdowns and recession economies.

I remember the Mayor of Tulsa getting on-air and telling those in other states, 'Come on down; Tulsa has plenty of jobs and needs employees.'

They came. They came in droves. Every 3rd vehicle on the street was from another state. Most of the out-of-state license plates were from Illinois and Michigan, but many other states had moderate-to-low representation, as well.

By 1984, the recession was hitting Oklahoma. During the next few years, Tulsa was getting especially hard hit. The 'official' unemployment rate was list as 8.5%; the 'unofficial' rate was closer to 14%. Strip shopping centers closed. Entire shopping centers close. Residential areas with houses constructed the previous 5 years couldn't even give the houses away, and residents and builders were walking off and abandoning them.

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I noticed some recent threads of states having surplus budgets. Texas is one. My advice. Be careful of exposing too much or you will get an influx. The trouble with those influxes is that many are Libs/Lefties who messed up their former state(s) and are looking for new areas to 'improve' and 'correct.' Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico are a few states that can show the results of that.

Some are already predicting that Texas will be 'blue' in less than a decade. I doubt that is because many life-long Texans suddenly saw the light and converted. No, it will be from the Lib/Leftist outsiders who come in and do the converting. They know how. Just ask Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico ...
21 posted on 01/10/2013 5:38:17 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Andrew Cuoma can't control his own libido and doesn't respect the standards, rules and customs of his own church and yet he thinks he ought to be in charge of your firearms.

What a (yiddish word here take your pick).

22 posted on 01/10/2013 11:24:03 AM PST by muawiyah
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