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House approves $9.7 billion in Sandy aid, with some Republican dissent
Washington Post ^ | 01/04/2013 | By Rosalind S. Helderman

Posted on 01/04/2013 9:32:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The House has approved $9.7 billion in new aid for victims of Hurricane Sandy, a face-saving quick move taken three days after House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) earned scathing criticism from New York and New Jersey Republicans for canceling a late-night vote on the funds.

The bill, which will allow the Federal Emergency Management Agency to pay out claims to those who held federal flood insurance, was approved on a 354 to 67 vote. The Senate is expected to adopt it later Friday on a unanimous voice vote.

Boehner seems to have had reason to be concerned about bringing a larger $60 billion spending measure to the floor on Tuesday: All the votes against the smaller bill on Friday came from his own party members.

They were encouraged by the conservative Club for Growth, which argued the additional disaster spending should be offset with cuts to other government programs. The continued GOP opposition could spell trouble for a larger $51 billion Sandy bill that Boehner has promised will come before the House on Jan. 15.

And it provided a second example in a week of a bill approved with more Democratic support than Republican backing, an outcome that deeply troubles conservatives about the efficacy of their governing majority in the House.

Still, it quieted a political storm for Boehner that erupted when he pulled the bill from the floor late Tuesday, worried he would have trouble corralling GOP votes for it from members exhausted from a debate over a bill to avert the “fiscal cliff” by raising taxes on the wealthy.

Boehner’s decision prompted an eruption of anger from lawmakers and others from states affected by the November superstorm. Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J) told reporters that Boehner had ignored four calls from him Tuesday night

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: congress; hurricane; sandyrelief

1 posted on 01/04/2013 9:32:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully mine was a dissenter.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 9:34:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not. Another. Dime.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 9:34:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

9 billion???? Good Lord I thought the total was 60 million. Is the rest of that pork????? Good Lord we are doomed. Does the tax increase on the 450 thousand folks even cover 9 billion?????


4 posted on 01/04/2013 9:36:09 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure how I feel about this. I’m frustrated that our Congress critters can’t seem to figure out how to cut spending. On the other hand, why wouldn’t the feds provide disaster relief in this case when they do for other natural disasters? (Not saying that the feds should EVER provide such relief, or that this dollar amount is appropriate if they do.)


5 posted on 01/04/2013 9:36:37 AM PST by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cox: Sandy Relief Bill ‘Pork-Laden’

Earlier today Gov. Andrew Cuomo wondered out loud where Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos and Republican Chairman Ed Cox were on the $60.4 billion Sandy relief bill that’s stalled in the GOP-led House of Representatives.

Skelos had actually released a statement prior to the governor’s comments.

But Cox didn’t until now, and it’s critical of the measure for attaching too much ancillary or “pork” related spending to the measure. But Cox signaled in the statement that while the measure’s passage was “complicated” by the fiscal cliff contretemps, the state Republican Party is disappointed DC lawmakers couldn’t agree on a relief measure.

The statement also takes a veiled swipe about “playing partisan politics in the press.”

The Associated Press reported this afternoon that House Speaker John Boehner has told lawmakers a vote on Sandy aid would be held by Jan. 15.

Needless to say, these aren’t exactly the words of Republican Rep. Peter King, who slammed the House leadership for not taking up the bill, going as far as to suggest New York donors shouldn’t contribute to the GOP unless the bill is approved.

http://capitaltonightny.ynn.com/2013/01/cox-sandy-relief-bill-pork-laden/


6 posted on 01/04/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind
The 60 bil package is almost all pork. Someone posted it yesterday. It was insane.

Psst...IIRC, FEMA has a fund set aside...why MORE money??

And don't private companies sell the Insurance?? Is there double dipping??

7 posted on 01/04/2013 9:39:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

RE: The 60 bil package is almost all pork. Someone posted it yesterday. It was insane.

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Boehner didn’t hold up the relief measure because he’s a mean man who wants the suffering to continue in devastated areas. He did so because the $60 billion was larded with pork-barrel projects unrelated to storm damage. Here’s a very short list:

• $13 billion for large infrastructure projects that we are assured would “mitigate” damage from future storms.

• $10.8 billion for public transportation, almost entirely for future projects, not disaster relief.

• $207 million for the Department of Veterans Affairs’ Manhattan Medical Center.

• $199 million in tax breaks for rum makers.

• $188 million for upgrading, not repairing, Amtrak rail lines.

• $150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to provide fisheries in Alaska.

• $100 million for a federal day-care program.

• $57 million for tracking debris from the 2011 Japanese tsunami.

• $20 million for a national “water priorities” study.

• $8 million to buy vehicles and equipment for the departments of Justice and Homeland Security.

Remember, this is just the short version of the pork list. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, says a bill that focused solely on Hurricane Sandy relief would be less than half of $60 billion.

That’s just the bill Congress should pass – with matching cuts in existing federal spending to keep down the deficit. That’s just the bill Congress would pass – were it run by responsible adults who could do sixth-grade math and who didn’t want to bequeath their children and grandchildren with crushing government debt.

But instead, most Democrats and too many Republicans just want to rev up the presses and print more money.


8 posted on 01/04/2013 9:42:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator
Good Lord I thought the total was 60 million.

No, it's $60 billion. The other $51 billion comes in eleven days.

9 posted on 01/04/2013 9:42:37 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: napscoordinator
The continued GOP opposition could spell trouble for a larger $51 billion Sandy bill that Boehner has promised will come before the House on Jan. 15.

they're all wanting to be Looterman now.

10 posted on 01/04/2013 9:43:12 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: houeto
The continued GOP opposition could spell trouble for a larger $51 billion Sandy bill that Boehner has promised will come before the House on Jan. 15.

Congress wants to be Looterman now. someone should photoshop Looterman with the head of the pork-loving swine voting for that when it come up...

11 posted on 01/04/2013 9:44:35 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thanks for posting.

King and Cuomo are two peas in a pod.

Christie is just a plain big mouthed Chicago type thug...Who the hell would ever lower a flag to half staff for a druggie??

12 posted on 01/04/2013 9:48:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: cripplecreek

Hopefully mine was a dissenter.

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The bill, which will allow the Federal Emergency Management Agency to pay out claims to those who held federal flood insurance, was approved on a 354 to 67 vote. The Senate is expected to adopt it later Friday on a unanimous voice vote.

.....Are you opposed to FEMA being able to payout claims?...


13 posted on 01/04/2013 10:00:53 AM PST by deport
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To: napscoordinator

This was merely a down payment. They are voting on the remaining $51 billion next week.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 10:02:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: deport

Here’s the link to the Yeas/Nays by the members vote. The 67 Nays were all Republicans.

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2013&rollnumber=7&TB_iframe=true&height=400&width=650


15 posted on 01/04/2013 10:05:04 AM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind

Hurricane Sandy pork list


16 posted on 01/04/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by quintr
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To: deport

I’m opposed to federal government unconstitutionally paying out for acts of God.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 10:09:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

More pork. :(


18 posted on 01/04/2013 10:30:07 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of that stuff is non-hurricane related pork, but the $207 million for the VA medical center is not. The medical center was heavily damaged by the storm, and has yet to re-open (I believe the plan is to re-open in March at the earliest).


19 posted on 01/04/2013 10:30:21 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Call me cynical but all dissent at this point is just for show. Even if the honest R’s don’t know it, they’re part of a game.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 10:46:27 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

207 million? That should build a new hospital, a very nice new hospital.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 10:50:49 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: MEGoody

Welcome to the new normal. Unfortunately, you couldn’t get 100 votes in the house to cancel disaster assistance.

So, what do you do in that case? Well, the purists argue that you simply vote against every case of trying to do disaster assistance.

Unfortunately, that means that the purists have absolutely NO SAY in what happens in these bills — because they won’t vote for it no matter what. Three cheers for the purists, they are pure, and they are principled, and they are “correct”.

Except, of course, that the bills will pass anyway. And as much as Boehner would love to have bills passed by republicans, he can’t stop 218 members from signing a discharge petition. Now, the other republicans really do want to be the majority, and would be happy to drive a relatively hard bargain in the process, if it would get them the 218 votes.

But as we have learned with “Plan B” and other votes, the purists aren’t playing. Because they are pure, and principled, and correct.

So, we’ll end up with a pork-ladened bill, which will be what the democrats want, and will vote for, since we can’t pass the bill with just republican votes, and there aren’t even 100 votes to say NO.

This is the difficulty with purism. If you will never compromise, but your positions can’t even get 100 votes, much less 218, you will be ignored. The only reason to ever bargain with someone is if there is a compromise that will get them to vote for something that will pass.

So far as I can tell, the purists, and the purist supporters, should cheer the passage of pork-ladened bills, since that is the direct result of applying the purist principles that it is better to hold true to your principles than to influence more positive outcomes.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 10:52:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind
Remember, this is just the short version of the pork list. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, says a bill that focused solely on Hurricane Sandy relief would be less than half of $60 billion.

That’s just the bill Congress should pass – with matching cuts in existing federal spending to keep down the deficit. That’s just the bill Congress would pass – were it run by responsible adults who could do sixth-grade math and who didn’t want to bequeath their children and grandchildren with crushing government debt.

But you can't pass that bill, because no democrats will vote for it, and apparently enough conservatives will reject it on principle that you can't get to 218 votes.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 10:55:08 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a perfect example of how bad the Republican communications team is - alls they need to do is get everyone on the same page and repeat this list every time they are in front of a camera or a microphone.

I live along the coast of NJ, 2 miles from the ocean and my town was hit bad. But - I would rather see that the time be taken to properly allocate what is needed rather than see a pork laden bill get pushed thru Congress just so they can feel good about themselves.

This is so easy, why cant they communicate this properly?

24 posted on 01/04/2013 11:05:59 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: TurboZamboni
Congress wants to be Looterman now.

Congress has been Looterman since Looterman's grandpa was knee-high to a tadpole!

25 posted on 01/04/2013 11:09:51 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek
Well that is your choice and good luck to you an yours. I hope you never take a dime if you are ever in a catastrophic situation in which you, your neighbors and community have no control over.
26 posted on 01/04/2013 11:52:39 AM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind

27 posted on 01/04/2013 11:55:22 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: deport

See how easy it is to justify taking from others.

Its different when we do it. LOL


28 posted on 01/04/2013 11:56:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The best to you and yours.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 12:14:55 PM PST by deport
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