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Do Nothing Democrats. When Will They Act On A Budget? (Day 1,338 - No Budget)
December 27, 2012 | self

Posted on 12/27/2012 7:20:56 PM PST by RedMDer

That's 3 years, 7 months and 28 days that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Democrat) has obstructed and prevented the House of Representatives efforts to submit a budget as required by Federal Law.

That's right folks, Harry Reid (D) is breaking a law that the Senate has passed.

Does he really lead or does he just have his own personal agenda to break the system.

Remember what Obama said. “We are ..Days Away From Fundamentally Transforming The United States of America”


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cliff; congress; corruption; democrats; fiscalcliff; fraud; obama; taxes; vanity


1 posted on 12/27/2012 7:21:00 PM PST by RedMDer
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To: RedMDer

Yep, today Reid’s on the Senate floor complaining about the House not being in session during this crisis yet he wont bring a single cliff bill to the Senate floor for a vote.

So he is just wasting time and taxpayer money for nothing.

No O got the House members to fly back for nothing.
Cant Boner get two or three members on the House floor on camera just to make a show?


2 posted on 12/27/2012 7:27:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: sickoflibs

The GOP needs to speak very plainly now so that even the low information voters can understand.
The DemocRATS are doing nothing to help them.
The GOP if allowed will let the economy grow jobs, jobs, jobs!


3 posted on 12/27/2012 7:33:59 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: RedMDer

Agreed.

Speak up now GOP.

What do you have to lose?


4 posted on 12/27/2012 7:36:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: RedMDer
RE :”The GOP needs to speak very plainly now so that even the low information voters can understand”

Well that might work as long as the economy gets worse and they don't get the blame for blowing up the economy out of spite. If Republicans were trusted on jobs and economy now then Romney would have won.

I see Rush decided to use that term ‘low-information voters’ lately.

Speaking of Rush and low-information voters I seem to remember Rush telling his listeners that the polls showing Romney losing were all rigged and they shouldn't believe them. He was telling this to his loyal listeners the 'high information voters' who must of went into complete shock when Romney lost. , Ironic

Rush is the last person I would go to for advise on how to beat Dems.

5 posted on 12/27/2012 7:46:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: RedMDer
Here's the only trusted source for Rush's ‘high information voters’ :

Rush: Everything But Polls Say Romney Landslide (Newsmax 05, Nov 2012 )

DON'T DOUBT ME!

LOL

6 posted on 12/27/2012 7:53:03 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: sickoflibs

The low information voters was my own. I can’t get Rush’s show during the day. Only the weekend recap on Saturday if I have time.


7 posted on 12/27/2012 8:02:20 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: RedMDer
RE :”The low information voters was my own. I can’t get Rush’s show during the day. Only the weekend recap on Saturday if I have time”

Well he is using that term frequently since the election, to him they are the voters who did not behave in a way to make his analysis and predictions come true, pretty ridiculous.

Everything -- Except the Polls -- Points to a Romney Landslide( November 05, 2012, Rushlimbaugh,com)

8 posted on 12/27/2012 8:08:03 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: sickoflibs

This thread is about do nothing Democrats ruining the country. Not Rush.


9 posted on 12/27/2012 8:17:43 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: RedMDer; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; justiceseeker93; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :The GOP needs to speak very plainly now so that even the low information voters can understand.

You are certainly right that Rs need to improve their communications, but they also need to accept reality if they want any chance of winning.

Making believe that Romney was winning didn't make it happen. Making believe that voters are backing Republicans now is just as delusional.

Right now Republicans are trusted on almost nothing over Obama. Two years of these confrontations where Republicans had no idea how to win them, then had public opinion turn against them, then suffered the public humiliation of accepting really bad deals for each fight was a total disaster. And they seemed to have learned little from it.

Here's a example of planning: exactly 2 years ago 2010 Obama got the Pelosi lame duck House pass an extension of all the Bush tax cuts for exactly 2 years.
Was this a big victory by the Senate minority Republicans who held up the tax cut extension unless all the incomes (all Bush tax cuts) were included?
No, it was the best thing for Obama, it gave him an issue for two years and Republicans get nothing now but this time bomb which is destroying them. Plus O got the FICA payroll tax cut in that same deal for a year , and then he crushed Rs a year later exactly one year ago on its extension.

How about Obama coming out with the O-care birth control mandate in a press release in the middle of his POTUS re-election race? This was a nice sweet smelling trap bait for all the mice who lined up to jump into it, and they did.

Obama plays Republicans like an instrument. He is always steps ahead of them and everything he says is poll tested. No strategy will succeed that denies why they are losing.

10 posted on 12/27/2012 8:42:13 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: sickoflibs

Good points. The GOP must learn how to drive the discussion.
They could be in the drivers seat now had they been quick enough and used the language that the average voter can understand.


11 posted on 12/27/2012 8:59:49 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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RE :”Good points. The GOP must learn how to drive the discussion. They could be in the drivers seat now had they been quick enough and used the language that the average voter can understand.”

I cant disagree with that, obviously they have been massacred on the communication war.

They need to have an organized realistic strategy on how to beat Obama and that includes generating consistent popularized talking points that all their house/Senate members must be briefed on.

They need to be more populist (in talking points) .
They need to be organized and united as a team
They need to accept reality.

Reality is that voters will not now accept spending cuts to themselves or anyone they like without taxes going up on those making much more than them in return as 'fairness'.

Reality is that taxes are going up on everyone if nothing is done.

Reality is that if you want voters to believe that it is bad for them to have tax increases on those making much more than them, then you have to show them that it is true with a current example, Obama. There is nothing that can be said now that will do that, it there was then Romney would have won.
Do it the same way that O (was forced to) extended cuts on ‘the rich’ for two years then made an major issue of it for those years to beat Republicans and a big trap for them now. Show them that they are bad.

Learn from success not failure.

12 posted on 12/27/2012 9:21:20 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: RedMDer

harry hasn’t stopped the house from passing a budget. what’s their excuse


13 posted on 12/27/2012 9:48:47 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

The House has passed budgets every year.
Harry Reid has blocked the bills in the Senate every year.


14 posted on 12/27/2012 9:53:56 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: RedMDer

Communists don’t need a budget, Silly! All your money = theirs. It’s that simple. Why bother with messy budgets and stuff. C’mon! Get real!


15 posted on 12/27/2012 9:57:00 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: RedMDer
Do Nothing Democrats. When Will They Act On A Budget?

Even better question, when will Republicans actually demand one? Republicans have controlled the House for two years now, yet each of those years, they passed a continuing resolution of the 2009 Pelosi-Reid budget instead of demanding that a new budget be passed. Cowards.

16 posted on 12/27/2012 10:04:34 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: RedMDer

yes. sorry. they should stop negotiating with themselves


17 posted on 12/27/2012 10:04:47 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: RedMDer

BUMP a great thread title.

I have to laugh - - thanks to the House conservatives, Boehner wasn’t allowed to cave. And so now the rats are squealing like pigs, which clearly demonstrates that the Republicans did the right thing! How ironic is it that Boehner ended up (accidentally!) doing the right thing when he threw up his hands and told the House to go home and have a Merry Christmas?

LMBO...


18 posted on 12/27/2012 10:12:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs

Why am I only reading of this in a relatively obscure Web posting on a moderately-read blog, rather than hearing it blasted DAILY from the lips of the likes of John Boehner, David Cantor, and Rep Ryan?

Something does not add up about the putative ‘Congressional Republicans.


19 posted on 12/27/2012 11:32:49 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: sickoflibs

Why am I only reading of this in a relatively obscure Web posting on a moderately-read blog, rather than hearing it blasted DAILY from the lips of the likes of John Boehner, David Cantor, and Rep Ryan?

Something does not add up about the putative ‘Congressional Republican Leadership.’ *** Last paragraph corrected ***


20 posted on 12/27/2012 11:34:38 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: RedMDer

BUDGET? Why have the pretense of constraint, when you’re a living-large, plundering progressive.

We don’t have to show you any steenkin’ budget BUMP!


21 posted on 12/28/2012 2:09:31 AM PST by PGalt
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To: man_in_tx

“Why am I only reading of this in a relatively obscure Web posting on a moderately-read blog, rather than hearing it blasted DAILY from the lips of the likes of John Boehner, David Cantor, and Rep Ryan?”

Didn’t you get the memo?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://reason.com/assets/mc/_ATTIC/Image/mmoynihan/newsweek-socialists.jpg&imgrefurl=http://reason.com/blog/2009/02/10/were-all-socialists-now&h=244&w=186&sz=25&tbnid=kqqzCj7iAOoeqM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=69&zoom=1&usg=__q1A1ybruH-bB7J-eiEPwN86xSg8=&docid=dMEIy1ULyuXi5M&sa=X&ei=T2_dULOTG4S9qQHGuoGgDg&ved=0CDcQ9QEwAQ&dur=2353


22 posted on 12/28/2012 2:16:31 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RedMDer

The GOP doesn’t want a budget, either. You seriously think the GOP wants to put on paper and into law what its spending priorities are? You think either party wants to address spending at ALL? The bills sent up by the House are not really budgets, but politically tactical documents.

Give me a break.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 5:00:56 AM PST by gotribe
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Reality is that voters will not now accept spending cuts to themselves or anyone they like without taxes going up on those making much more than them in return as 'fairness'.

I'm not convinced the voters would accept significant spending cuts no matter how much you raised taxes on the "wealthy."


24 posted on 12/28/2012 12:39:44 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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RE :”Why am I only reading of this in a relatively obscure Web posting on a moderately-read blog, rather than hearing it blasted DAILY from the lips of the likes of John Boehner, David Cantor, and Rep Ryan?
Something does not add up about the putative ‘Congressional Republicans.”

Cant disagree there.

The current back and forth on this is :

Earlier this year Senate republicans allowed Os plan to extend tax cuts to $250K of income (for everyone) to proceed in the Senate and it passed <60 but more than 51.

So Reid is demanding a vote on that same bill in the House, assuming it would pass there with Dem votes.

Congressional Republicans like Boehner say that any tax bill must start in the House per the constitution, so they suggest Reid take the already passed House bill (extends all rates) and modify it with what they want (<=$250) , then pass it in Senate now and then send it back to the House. That could be the same Senate/Obama bill.

Reid refuses to do that because he knows this time Senate Rs will filibuster it this time, blocking it with 40+ then will call Reid out on his failure.

So Reid wont do anything now because he is using the failure of the House to pass the <=$1M bill to attack House Republicans and Boehner every day on the Senate floor blaming them for everything, and his failing to pass a bill (that he tried) himself would ruin that,

So Reid will do nothing and continue to blame Republicans, and we know they will get the blame for anything that goes bad.

My thoughts : No more Sharon Angles, or Romney's or Akin’s. ‘ Look at what we must listen to in Reid because NV Republicans nominated a nutbag. There was no reason to lose that race in a Republican sweep year 2010.

25 posted on 12/28/2012 12:48:31 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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RE :”Reality is that voters will not now accept spending cuts to themselves or anyone they like without taxes going up on those making much more than them in return as ‘fairness’....
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I'm not convinced the voters would accept significant spending cuts no matter how much you raised taxes on the “wealthy.”

My point more is that when Republicans run on “We must cut spending on stuff you voters like but at the same time we cant afford any rich guy to pay any more in taxes because we all know a tax cut for that guy helps you, we proved that the past 12 years with Bush and obama” is not going to win national elections, WH or majorities in House/Senate. Romney tried that and if it was a winner then he would have won in a landslide.
Someone last night told me that Republicans didn't try tell voters this,

Well, we got lots of automatic deficit reduction coming automatically now, lots of tax increases and spending cuts included, and now we keep hearing its the end of the world,

Lots of stuff Dems hate coming, lots of stuff Rs hate coming. Let the finger pointing begin, err continue.

26 posted on 12/28/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB
My point more is that when Republicans run on “We must cut spending on stuff you voters like but at the same time we cant afford any rich guy to pay any more in taxes because we all know a tax cut for that guy helps you, we proved that the past 12 years with Bush and obama” is not going to win national elections, WH or majorities in House/Senate. Romney tried that and if it was a winner then he would have won in a landslide.

Agree. But I think we would be on the road to Greece, and very unlikely to correct the course, no matter how well the GOP explained things. Even an eloquent GOP which was capable of winning elections would be afraid to make significant cuts in govt.

Unless a Scott Walker ran for POTUS and infused the GOP with a new spirit, we may never know. I would love to be proven wrong.

27 posted on 12/28/2012 2:46:47 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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RE :”Agree. But I think we would be on the road to Greece, and very unlikely to correct the course, no matter how well the GOP explained things. Even an eloquent GOP which was capable of winning elections would be afraid to make significant cuts in govt. “

I was at the gym while Obama went on live continuing his act.
He said he will demand the Senate vote on a bill that extends tax rates for income under $250K with extension of unemployment comp, so he can call out those who vote against it.

I notice Democrats sometimes call it a tax increase, sometimes they call it an extension of tax cuts. I think they do this on purpose. The purpose is to see the destruction of any opposition party.

About Americans not accepting spending cuts, I thought of the irony of all the candidates including Romney saying in that debate that they would not accept a $1 in tax increases for $10 in spending cuts. Of course Romney was just trying to get through the primary and he certainly couldn't be counted on for anything once elected. But the whole thing was pretty delusional considering where we are, and it was a Chris Wallace Setup because he didn't ask for an explanation.

House Republicans will get blamed for the cliff and Obama will be pouring more fuel on the fire as he did today.
There are not even that many here who think Bohner will hold out for long.

I get the impression for many here (who sound like Rush fans) that after really believing that Romney would win they now think that it is over, that Republicans can never win against Dems and so they should go out and make NO deals and make sure that they are blamed for a Depression caused by this game of chicken because regardless of the next two elections, Obama’s legacy will be the depression, and they (Rs) will get all blame no matter what and Obama will get any credit for the next few years for anything good, so at least Obama will be the depression POTUS.

Thoughts on that? You sense this or get these thoughts yourself? It certainly feeds our frustration.

28 posted on 12/28/2012 8:40:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Isn’t that the truth. Brilliantly depicted...


29 posted on 12/29/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I guess it would be more accurate to show that the voters have a credit card they share with the govt. but that’s kind of complicated for a cartoon. Eventually the voters will be charged.


30 posted on 12/29/2012 9:31:24 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I agree and it could have shown him pulling the person’s card out of their wallet. Good call...


31 posted on 12/29/2012 11:00:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: sickoflibs

Great analysis. I agree on the Romney piece. However, you and I will perhaps have to “agree to disagree” on the “no more Angles and Akins” piece. I will always support those with principles. Nuttiness is not a plus, but why should it be a disqualifier? (Have you ever listened to any Dem Senator speak?) :-)


32 posted on 01/01/2013 4:50:56 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: PGalt

Thank you for that bit of clarification! ;-)

(Now I understand!)


33 posted on 01/01/2013 4:52:03 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: man_in_tx

(Have you ever listened to any Dem Senator speak?) :-)

LOL! Thank you for that and your tagline, man_in_tx.


34 posted on 01/01/2013 5:21:13 PM PST by PGalt
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