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Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons--summary of Feinstein Bill, incl. registry requirement
United States Senate ^ | 12/27/2012 | Dianne Feinstein

Posted on 12/27/2012 7:50:24 AM PST by driftdiver

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To: lurk
Who knew that the Second Amendment was so specific on what arms the people could and could not bear?

You really are out on a limb here. The people in power today are just following the 2A to the letter: The people's right shall not be infringed to keep any form of Arms of bears. I presume this would include fur and claws. The only question I'm not sure about is the elbow.

101 posted on 12/27/2012 10:25:03 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: driftdiver

2nd Amendment bump for later....


102 posted on 12/27/2012 10:25:55 AM PST by indthkr
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To: Aglooka

This is all hot air. It has zero chance of passing. They just want to put the bill forth then blame the GOP when it doesn’t pass..the usual libtard tactics.


103 posted on 12/27/2012 10:34:42 AM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: BootsOfEscaping

So far its sole a tremendous number of firearms, ammo, and other supplies.


104 posted on 12/27/2012 10:38:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I applaud you.


105 posted on 12/27/2012 10:38:47 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: plain talk
"Yes but there is another reason as well. They need stuff like this to distract the masses from the failed economy and high unemployment rate. Sure they want it to pass. And to your point they are aware it may take a while to get it done. And even it doesn't pass now they can take advantage of this "crisis" to make it appear they are actually doing something and distract from their record."

That was among my thoughts -- they crafted something that is impossible to pass in this congress -- allowing them to dance on the coffins of those 20 kids and blame the Republicans. This is about the 2014 election already. And the end of America.

106 posted on 12/27/2012 10:39:34 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

No, it doesn’t bother me. It was just a suggestion because I thought people would continue to correct you before reading on. As I did.


107 posted on 12/27/2012 10:42:12 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: smokingfrog

I think I’m well past TN. I’m back on the same *ledge* I was on at 11:55pm on Nov 6th, when FoxNews called the GE for 0bummer&CoRegimeFromHell.


108 posted on 12/27/2012 10:42:18 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Almost any idiot can vote, but if we can turn a substantial number of gun owners into criminals, they won’t be voting any more. Get it?


109 posted on 12/27/2012 10:45:48 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Logical me

“...The Democrats and the communists ...”

Redundancy alert. One and the same.

And you are correct. 8000+ plus joining the NRA, record gun sales in every state, people who never even considered buying/owning guns are buying them now.

All because libs don’t understand the concept of “live and let live”.


110 posted on 12/27/2012 10:47:03 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

That list outlaws damn’ near everything I own. Well, *owned* right up until that tragic boating accident.....


111 posted on 12/27/2012 10:49:04 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: JGT
Go ahead and pray, but you're wrong.

I wish he would. He would be signing the Democrat's electoral death warrant for 2014.

112 posted on 12/27/2012 10:52:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: chris37

“..Imagine being the man whose duty it is to service this arrogant, little troll every night.....”

You’re sure it’s a man? She IS a dem after all...it could be anything.


113 posted on 12/27/2012 10:53:51 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MrB

Exactly


114 posted on 12/27/2012 10:57:27 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: BootsOfEscaping

I hope you’re right, but I’m not taking any chances this time. It’s time to push back, hard.

I think she’d be happy with any incremental reduction in rights: maybe a ban on private sales, ban on “high capacity” magazines. Don’t give her an inch.


115 posted on 12/27/2012 10:58:45 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: driftdiver

How many politicians must be dealt with before the rest go quietly?


116 posted on 12/27/2012 11:02:02 AM PST by gotribe
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To: usconservative
I'm not worried about these gun grabbers-two reasons. My liberal sister who has been afraid of my purse (because of the .357 in it)for the first time didn't make me leave at the house when we went to church.
Second, a number of years ago I was assistant HR at a large distribution center. The company came out banning guns, knives, mace, pepper spay etc. on the grounds, even in locked cars. I got the task of getting each employee to sign on the dotted line affirming this. What a battle, even with old ladies who had never even had a weapon. Everyone knew I carried and locked it in my trunk. Security was going to spot check cars. I told the troops, just sign the blasted paper and do what you need to do. It was get fired for not signing or get fired if you got caught. People were absolutely livid but took my suggestion. Nothing ever came of it, no spot checks. Security knew I carried, but I'm a “formidable woman” as we say here in the South. The South will not disarm.
117 posted on 12/27/2012 11:03:50 AM PST by Himyar
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To: driftdiver

I won’t be registering my CAR-15.


119 posted on 12/27/2012 11:09:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: lurk
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120 posted on 12/27/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: NFHale

Yes, it’s a Richard Blum.

Of course that Blum could be a Janet Napolitano in reality, one relly never knows with the freak show that is the democrat party.


121 posted on 12/27/2012 11:12:23 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Let’s make sure Everyone here gets a real good, revolting whiff of Senator Hypocrite, “If I could get 51 votes in the Senate I’d say turn them all in Mr and Mrs America” Shall We?

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/19/flashback-dem-sen-dianne-feinstein-i-carried-a-concealed-weapon-if-somebody-was-going-to-try-and-take-me-out-i-was-going-to-take-them-with-me/

And the man who married her?

Richard Blum is the Chairman of the University of California Board of Regents.
http://spot.us/pitches/337-investors-club-how-the-uc-regents-spin-public-funds-into-private-profit/updates/590-senator-dianne-feinsteins-education-conflict

“As documented in a previous investigation, a series of conflicts of interest appear to exist between the University of California and some members of the UC Regents. Among the most notable are UC’s $53 million investment in ITT Educational Services and Career Education Corporation, two for-profit educational corporations that are largely owned by Blum Capital Partners, a company run by Richard C. Blum, a regent who sits on the UC investment committee.

Watchdog organizations have characterized the overlapping investments between UC and Blum Capital Partners as conflicts of interest. But Mr. Blum’s conflicting interests extend beyond California higher education institutions to the legislative floor of the U.S. Congress, where Mr. Blum’s spouse, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), has taken legislative action that has financially benefited Blum Capital Partners.

In a bill that continues to have positive financial impacts for Mr. Blum, Sen. Feinstein introduced legislation that has directly benefited her husband’s investments in ITT Educational Services and Career Education Corporation. In February 2007, Sen. Feinstein and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-California) called for an increase in federal tuition aid by $20 billion over five years via Pell Grants to low-income students attending community and for-profit colleges. This measure, which became part of the College Cost Reduction and Access Act, became law in September 2007.”

Blum was appointed by Gov. Grey Davis who got yanked out of office by the voters in a special recall election after he turned out the lights in rolling black outs.

Ringling Bros and Barnum and Bailey got Nothing on These Clowns.


122 posted on 12/27/2012 11:32:19 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: driftdiver

Dear Diane,
It’s called a civil war...and you are preparing to start it.THINK very hard about that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


123 posted on 12/27/2012 11:33:37 AM PST by Nekman (A vote made for Obama......is a vote made By a MORON!)
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To: driftdiver

Look for this to land up in the courts.


124 posted on 12/27/2012 11:37:54 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: junta

Like in II?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPmTp9up26w


125 posted on 12/27/2012 11:38:34 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: Biggirl

Ohhh...I feel better already. (NOT)


126 posted on 12/27/2012 11:39:15 AM PST by Nekman (A vote made for Obama......is a vote made By a MORON!)
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To: driftdiver

Mandated finger-printing is biopower in action: aiming to separate gun-owners from civil society.

We already have the ‘dangerous individual’ of criminology; the ‘mentally ill’ of psychiatry; the ‘insane individual’ of the judiciary.

Soon we’ll have the ‘gun owner’ of the Obama tyranny.


127 posted on 12/27/2012 11:46:04 AM PST by Katechon
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To: driftdiver

Hey Dianne, why don't you tell us where these guns in Mexico came from?

1st Hint: F & F
2nd Hint: Starts with "H"
3rd Hint: Starts with an "O" and ends with "BAMA."

128 posted on 12/27/2012 11:46:31 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: umgud
This has little chance of passing, but would be a nightmare if it did. It would certainly make more criminals, which may be the real intent.

It will not pass as proposed. However, there will be compromise, 50% or more of the new laws will be enacted, and everyone in congress will feel good.

Nightmare is correct. Many sheeple will comply and those that hold out will be criminals, subject to arrest and prosecution..

I certainly believe congress should go back and review exactly what policies led up to the confrontations at Lexington & Concord.

129 posted on 12/27/2012 11:46:49 AM PST by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: driftdiver

Obama and the MSM are trying to characterize gun-owners as mentally ill, insane, dangerous; soon they’ll put ‘em not in a mental institution with forced-fed psychotropic drugs; not in prison; but in special CAMPS.


130 posted on 12/27/2012 11:51:57 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Charles Martel

This may be a first offer, so Obama can show how moderate he is in only seeking a ban on manufacture and registration of existing weapons outside of NFA rules and fees.

Evil Republicans don’t want to compromise, and be reasonable and nice.


131 posted on 12/27/2012 11:52:56 AM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: smokingfrog
Get it? I remember when you could stuff a check and an order form in an envelope and get your rifle in the mail.

Voting these B@stards in is what got us into this mess, and that was done without an ID.

Of course, I'll do everything within what little power I have to help defeat this sort of registration scheme.

In extremis, I may be old, but I'll still be able to vote from the rooftops. If they are foolish enough to push the issue, I'll do my best to make my last ballots count.

132 posted on 12/27/2012 11:54:02 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: driftdiver

Funny..... It’s the scare tactics by the libs to restrict and confiscate guns that is driving citizens to “get me one” while I still can. All the gun ranges in my area have waiting lines for available lanes.


133 posted on 12/27/2012 11:55:38 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: JPG
Feinstein is a low information fanatic

Horse pucky. She's a conniving thug.

134 posted on 12/27/2012 12:00:43 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: driftdiver

Pass that and I’ll be a criminal. Which puts me in good company I guess since the entire FedGov is criminal too.


135 posted on 12/27/2012 12:04:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Dead Corpse
If this actually passes, good luck trying to enforce it.

Let me guess: You think the ATF actually got rid of those background check records as the law requires?

136 posted on 12/27/2012 12:07:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: TigersEye

Yeah I will be too. probably part of their plan. make everyone a criminal so they cant vote or own a firearm.


137 posted on 12/27/2012 12:07:50 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
There shall be no ex post facto laws.
138 posted on 12/27/2012 12:10:52 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: driftdiver
There shall be no ex post facto laws.
139 posted on 12/27/2012 12:11:01 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh heck no...

I’m counting on them having kept those records illegally.


140 posted on 12/27/2012 12:13:58 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: chris37
Imagine being the man whose duty it is to service this arrogant, little troll every night...

I'd rather impale myself on one of Vlads stakes......

141 posted on 12/27/2012 12:25:32 PM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: Fighting Irish
Yeah .... Obama supposedly had little chance of being re-elected too.

This bill is a smokescreen. The real goal is to slip the Small Arms Treaty through the Senate, which would take but 34 votes if Dirty Harry gets sneaky enough about it.

142 posted on 12/27/2012 12:29:59 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: driftdiver
Stopping the Spread of Deadly Assault Weapons - By Isthisnickcool

No federal agency may allow the sale and transportation of any weapon across borders for the purpose of manipulating the American public. In the event such weapons are allowed to be transported across borders and any citizen of the brodering country is harmed or killed or any US citizen is harmed or killed the president of the United States shall be impeached, Congress shall be removed from office and all Federal employees will have a 90% reduction in pay.

143 posted on 12/27/2012 12:30:27 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: driftdiver
To: Frankefeinstein, Pelosi, REid , Obama , David Gregory ,Costs and the rest of You evil, socialist, communist democrats,

Do you want to take our guns and with it our freedom and rights? Of course you do .

We are here , but you will have to come take them by force.

We are here in Louisiana, come and take them.

the Men of Louisiana

144 posted on 12/27/2012 12:32:12 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds”

Does a tube feed count as a magazine? If so Marlin .22 model 60, 11 million in circulation will be targeted.


145 posted on 12/27/2012 12:38:53 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: driftdiver

That only counts after you’ve been convicted of something. There will be many millions of un-convicted criminals under a law like this but it won’t prevent them from voting. Being a felon in possession of illegal firearms would somewhat of a moot point.


146 posted on 12/27/2012 12:46:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Beckwith; Flint; PhilDragoo; Jim Robinson

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Require full and open disclosure of any and all firearms and firearms parts previously and/or currently manufactured by the Chi-Com (PRA) company and/or companies that Feinstein-Blum have invested in and hugely profited from

This “Blind Trust” crapola that politicians hide under is joke!

If beauty is skin-deep then Di-Fi proves that ugly goes all the way to the bone

- Yes I have personally listed to the tape recording of Feinstein’s California office staffers denying that that she owned and carried a pistol because she actually owned and carried a revolver. Yes - there may or may not be certain people at the NRA and elsewhere that may or may not have specific knowledge of such a tape.

It might be quite helpful if somebody on FR could put together info files (like “THE OBAMA FILES”) on the many lying gun-carrying creeps like Di-Fi and Smucky Schemer

Include Hillary “Rodham” Clinton, John “Big-Daddy” Edwards, and Barack “Blow” Hussein Obama II - all of them lied on nationwide live TV during the 2008 democratic debates when they were asked to raise their hand if they ever lived in a residence that had firearms within - none of those three raised a hand

So - why don’t I do it myself?

Because I am lousy at doing such things!

Cannot carry a handgun that holds over 6-7-8 cartridges? Carry two handguns - or 3 or 4.....

Try Blue Glaser ammo - always have spare barrels - and spare cylinders - sub-sonic will save your ears and - improvise - there is never “too much gun”

Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice

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147 posted on 12/27/2012 12:50:40 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: smokingfrog

Hmmm.... has anyone noticed the following talking points from the David Gregory crowd:

“Gun owners as a percentage of the population are actually decreasing. Fewer & fewer citizens own more & more of the guns.”

“Enthusiasm for assault weapons is a mostly white male thing.”

“The impetus for change has to start locally. Find out which of your neighbors own guns & challenge them to explain how their gun rights are more important than dead kindergartners.”

Sounds Alinsky to me: isolate, minimize, & belittle those who disagree with the agenda to create a better world.


148 posted on 12/27/2012 12:52:18 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: mkboyce

I want all voters ID’d and fingerprinted. Feinstein can chew on that for a while.


149 posted on 12/27/2012 12:52:18 PM PST by bergmeid (Deuteronomy 28)
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To: Carry_Okie
Nope, its all stored in a database somewhere. The trick is them actually getting a hold of the actual weapons. What will they do, ransack every household, tear out walls etc.? Lots of places to hide a weapon in the house, or car or outside.
150 posted on 12/27/2012 12:54:27 PM PST by USAF80
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