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BREAKING People (firefighters) Shot at Scene of Webster (NY) Fire
WHAM13 ^ | 12/24/12 | WHAM13

Posted on 12/24/2012 5:17:08 AM PST by Revelation 911

Webster, N.Y. -- 13WHAM News has learned several people have been shot at the scene of a fire on Lake Road in Webster.

The fire is at 191 Lake Road near Bay Road. A source tells 13WHAM News that at that scene, an unknown gunman opened fire on fire crews on the scene.

The victims have been taken by Mercy Flight to area hospitals. The fire has now spread to a second house.

13WHAM has several crews converging on the scene and will provide updates at they're available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; firefighters; firefightersgunned; firemengunned; firemenshooter; gunviolence; ny; shooting; williamspengler
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not far from home on a narrow spit of land probably 200' wide between Lake Ontarion and Irondequoit Bay in Rochester NY
1 posted on 12/24/2012 5:17:17 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Register all fires.


2 posted on 12/24/2012 5:21:41 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Revelation 911

location of the shooter is as of yet unknown - fire is unabated and basically the bridge on one side is up for the winter on one side so there is only one access point - tactically a nightmare as there is no cover


3 posted on 12/24/2012 5:22:40 AM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Revelation 911
Now the NY Firemen know how we felt during the Fireman's Strike in Memphis, Tennessee, in July 1978. We were paraded around in uniform with M-16s that didn't even have bullets. Every time a fire broke out there were shooters and we were supposed to protect them.
4 posted on 12/24/2012 5:23:45 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Revelation 911

What is wrong with people?


5 posted on 12/24/2012 5:23:57 AM PST by Lawdoc (My dad married my aunt, so now my cousins are my brothers. Go figure.)
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To: Revelation 911

Not 5 miles from where I used to live, in a state where assault weapons are banned.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 5:24:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Revelation 911

Sheriff’s deputies, SWAT team at Webster home

Canandaigua, N.Y. —

Police have swarmed an area on Lake Road near the Outlet Bridge in Webster.

Emergency crews were originally called to the area for the report of a structure fire.

Currently, Monroe County sheriff's deputies and the SWAT team are on scene, along with multiple fire crews.

Messenger Post newspartner News10NBC is on scene and working to get information more information.

7 posted on 12/24/2012 5:24:57 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Revelation 911

It was the gun’s fault. I can tell by the storyline that it will be an “assault” rifle with a “large clip”. Need to make NY a gun-free zone - OH WAIT...


8 posted on 12/24/2012 5:27:50 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Revelation 911

just looked at it on google maps......sad thing. Sounds like somebody wants their home to burn either because they dont want something inside it found or somebody just has a thing against first responders. My guess is the shooter
IS NOT a member of the NRA and IS NOT a CCW holder


9 posted on 12/24/2012 5:29:55 AM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Fix Bayonetts!!!!!!! Time to fight!!!!!)
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To: Revelation 911

You can see the location on google maps .... securing the scene is going to be really, really difficult. The neighbors are in a pickle if they have to evacuate due to the fire spreading with an active shooter somewhere in the area.


10 posted on 12/24/2012 5:30:08 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: Revelation 911

November 6th brought a different kind of depression to this country. A lot of people have just said to hell with it.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 5:36:05 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Lawdoc

What is wrong with people?

_________________

Sin.


12 posted on 12/24/2012 5:36:17 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Revelation 911

The shootings in Newtown have apparentally set off a host of copy-cat killers.Crazies.


13 posted on 12/24/2012 5:38:10 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Revelation 911
location of the shooter is as of yet unknown ... the bridge on one side is up for the winter
I believe the bridge goes up for spring, not winter.
No mention by Ch 13 whether the bullets(s) fired could have been caused by the fire and not a shooter.
14 posted on 12/24/2012 5:44:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Revelation 911

BTTT!


15 posted on 12/24/2012 5:45:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Revelation 911

Anyone who shoots at a fireman should be executed. That is a fundamental assault on society.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 5:46:17 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Venturer

17 posted on 12/24/2012 5:48:23 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
somebody wants their home to burn either because they dont want something inside it found or somebody just has a thing against first responders.

Sounds like it. I'll bet a body will be found in that house somewhere. Probably from a domestic dispute.
Today, when people want to kill or commit suicide, they take as many innocent people with them as they can. They know the media will show their name and image on TV for days, and they'll be put on the medias Celebrity Killer Hall of Fame list for all eternity. They'll be famous!

18 posted on 12/24/2012 5:48:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
somebody wants their home to burn either because they dont want something inside it found or somebody just has a thing against first responders.

Sounds like it. I'll bet a body will be found in that house somewhere. Probably from a domestic dispute.
Today, when people want to kill or commit suicide, they take as many innocent people with them as they can. They know the media will show their name and image on TV for days, and they'll be put on the medias Celebrity Killer Hall of Fame list for all eternity. They'll be famous!

19 posted on 12/24/2012 5:48:49 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Lawdoc; SumProVita
I agree with SumProVita that it is sin. For all our 'progress' and amazing technology, the fundamental problems with people still exist. We are broken, fallen people. all of us and there is no hope of repair with in ourselfs. C.S. Lewis summed up Christmas like this "The son of God became a man so that men could become the sons of God."

This is a special, significant Christmas. What I think you are seeing is Satan throwing a fit because his time is short. Jesus is comming back and sooner than many of us think. If you haven't done it yet, give Him your heart. Let Him fix it like no one else can.

My your Christmas be exeedingly merry and overflowing with the love of Christ.

20 posted on 12/24/2012 5:49:08 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Arthur McGowan

Tell that to Guy Montag.


21 posted on 12/24/2012 5:53:31 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: tbpiper

“If you haven’t done it yet, give Him your heart. Let Him fix it like no one else can.”

Needs a repeat.


22 posted on 12/24/2012 5:54:28 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Cvengr

One of the great BB cartoons. Always worth a giggle. ( I hope this doesn’t start a “list”, it was just a simple comment)


23 posted on 12/24/2012 5:58:49 AM PST by vortec94
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To: Venturer

The shootings in Newtown have apparentally set off a host of copy-cat killers.Crazies.

Non-stop media coverage of The shootings in Newtown have apparentally set off a host of copy-cat killers.Crazies.


24 posted on 12/24/2012 5:59:55 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: SumProVita

That is why we have CHRISTmas, the sending of the only answer for SIN, Jesus Christ.


25 posted on 12/24/2012 6:00:53 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: broken_arrow1

Not only the guns fault! I just did a Google street view and there’s a SVU parked in the driveway! I am sure it had something to do with it.


26 posted on 12/24/2012 6:03:15 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PastorBooks

Thanks Pastor.


27 posted on 12/24/2012 6:03:34 AM PST by tillacum
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To: oh8eleven
No mention by Ch 13 whether the bullets(s) fired could have been caused by the fire and not a shooter.

A possibility. Now I wonder. What are the odds.

28 posted on 12/24/2012 6:04:16 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kartographer

The shootings will continue until the goal is acheived;

Gun control


29 posted on 12/24/2012 6:10:42 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Lazamataz

The have the shooter in custody.

I always figured you for a Roch-cha-cha boy.


30 posted on 12/24/2012 6:10:42 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Afterguard
Psychiatrists: Psych Meds 'Cause' Violence, Lanza Record Awaited

"Psychiatrists have come forward to assert that certain psychiatric medications, such as those known as SSRIs, are almost certainly the chemical cause of a large number of instances of random violence and suicide in which SSRIs have been present.

(includes list of recent mass murderers and the mood altering medications they were on)

31 posted on 12/24/2012 6:14:07 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: PastorBooks; tbpiper; Lawdoc; SumProVita
I try to believe with all my heart that that is so, but then the person has to want to change.

Now days many would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven or as one of my favorite quotes put it:

Alfred Pennyworth: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. From: 'The Dark Knight' (2008)

To paraphrase another of my favorite quotes we tell our children when they wake-up in the night that there are no such things as monsters, but there are.
32 posted on 12/24/2012 6:15:41 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Revelation 911

The outlet bridge was opened on November 1st. There is access from both directions. There’s a couple of saloons nearby. We may have a drunk nut on our hands.


33 posted on 12/24/2012 6:15:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Afterguard
Non-stop media coverage of The shootings in Newtown have apparentally set off a host of copy-cat killers.Crazies.

Yup. I am quite proud that our local school refused to close on Friday amid a flood of threats made all across the state. They said that they didn't believe the threats were credible and would not be rewarding bad behavior. They pointed out that there are some 30 separate school buildings in this county and not one has EVER had a shooting.
34 posted on 12/24/2012 6:16:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: oh8eleven

My understanding is that if tossed into a fire, it’s generally the shell casings that become the projectile, due to having less mass than the bullet.


35 posted on 12/24/2012 6:16:59 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll
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To: oh8eleven

I don’t believe that an unchambered round going off due to a fire would have enough energy behind it to go very far or penetrate much. I could easily be wrong on this, though.


36 posted on 12/24/2012 6:19:32 AM PST by Bob
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To: SumProVita
What is wrong with people?

_________

Sin.

Yep.

37 posted on 12/24/2012 6:20:16 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Revelation 911
LE blocked off the bridge and the area of Lake Road to the east of the fire so no one could get in or out. People who wished to leave their homes were secured in a bus on sight.

I believe the gunman has been taken in to custody.

38 posted on 12/24/2012 6:29:57 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Eleutheria5

Take our guns away so that nuts and criminals have a clear shot.

Think about where you will hide your guns.


39 posted on 12/24/2012 6:30:10 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: MissMagnolia

Securing the scene was NOT difficult. I know the area like the back of my hand.


40 posted on 12/24/2012 6:31:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Revelation 911

David Gregory will blame Wayne LaPierre.


41 posted on 12/24/2012 6:37:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sacajaweau
Securing the scene was NOT difficult.

That's good, then.

42 posted on 12/24/2012 6:39:29 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: popdonnelly
Take our guns away so that nuts and criminals have a clear shot.

The "nuts and criminals" on the streets, or the "nuts and criminals" in the government?

43 posted on 12/24/2012 6:40:10 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The Mystery if Iniquity has been around since the Fall in the Garden. See St. Paul - epistle to the Thessalonians, Chapter 2, Verse 7.

Also - for an in depth instruction on the nature of evil see The De Malo of Thomas Aquinas that has been for a long time on my must read list that I hope to get to in 2013.

Have a great Christmas everyone! My youngest daughter (14) is coming out of the hospital today after a severe bleed last Tuesday - she has a bone marrow disease that causes low platelets and is usually stable so this is a setback - we could use prayers from all. Thanks!!


44 posted on 12/24/2012 6:41:40 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Lawdoc
What is wrong with people?

Americans have turned their eyes from God.
45 posted on 12/24/2012 6:41:47 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Afterguard

I am sure that has a lot to do with it, but of course you and I would be called crazy for suggesting anything like such as that.


46 posted on 12/24/2012 6:46:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: stonehouse01
Thanks for the reference to the DeMalo of Aquinas.

Prayers up for your daughter and for a great Christmas for your family too.

47 posted on 12/24/2012 6:47:51 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: broken_arrow1

48 posted on 12/24/2012 6:49:30 AM PST by ASA Vet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Revelation 911

Black panther tactics, used during 1960s terrorist attacks


49 posted on 12/24/2012 6:52:17 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Revelation 911

Black panther tactics, used during 1960s terrorist attacks


50 posted on 12/24/2012 6:52:36 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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