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How 'genius' honor student Adam Lanza became masked killer
Daily Mail ^ | 12/15/12

Posted on 12/15/2012 8:45:53 AM PST by BunnySlippers

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To: BunnySlippers

Sorry I posted a duplicate.

Late night I posted this photo and was asked a couple of times if it is rear. apparently so.

As I posted on another thread, the shooter was described in many articles as a “gamer”.

The GOP is going to have to frame this as a “mental health” and “gamer” issue to fight off gun control.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 8:52:07 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
Late night I posted this photo and was asked a couple of times if it is rear.

Looks more like his face to me.

3 posted on 12/15/2012 8:53:31 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: BunnySlippers

4 posted on 12/15/2012 8:55:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: humblegunner

Hahaha .. I meant real, you funny!


5 posted on 12/15/2012 8:57:15 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Is there something common about random mass killers? Something they share?

I guessed it before reading the story, and then yep, there it is, his parents are divorced and the father is out of the home.

No healthy connection with a father. It has destroyed our inner cities, and now it is in the burbs.

But we’ll look past that and blame the guns.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 8:57:21 AM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

Blame mental illness. Do we want crazy people to own guns?


7 posted on 12/15/2012 8:58:29 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
He had to be medicated to control his moods.

A lot of these medications are dangerous and the people who are on them go nuts when they fail to take them . I know a family who put their teenage daughter on some of these pills because she was a spoiled brat prone to outburst . She ended up stealing her father's gun and shooting herself , she almost killed both her parents.

8 posted on 12/15/2012 8:58:34 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: BunnySlippers; penelopesire; thouworm; PGalt

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/15/us-connecticut-towns-idUSBRE8BD0U120121215

Nancy Lanza legally owned a Sig Sauer and a Glock, both handguns of models commonly used by police, and a military-style Bushmaster .223 M4 carbine, according to law enforcement officials who also believe Adam Lanza used at least some of those weapons.

Nancy Lanza was an avid gun collector who once showed him a “really nice, high-end rifle” that she had purchased, said Dan Holmes, owner of a landscaping business who recently decorated her yard with Christmas garlands and lights. “She said she would often go target shooting with her kids.”


9 posted on 12/15/2012 9:00:20 AM PST by maggief
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To: Travis McGee
Your graphic blaming Hollywood and modern entertainment has one flaw. The gang wars of the 30s, Hitler, Stalin, lynching, slavery, the slaughter of American Indians all happened before this. None of them learned it by playing violent video games.

There have always been murders and slaughters, only the methods and maybe the scenarios have changed.

10 posted on 12/15/2012 9:01:36 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: BunnySlippers

Why can’t we blame Tanantino and “Banjo Unchained”?


12 posted on 12/15/2012 9:03:24 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: maggief

I think we are going to have to hold people accountable if they don’t secure their guns from being stolen and used for these purposes.

Let’s keep guns out of the hands of crazies.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 9:04:11 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: maggief

Can’t blame her for collecting guns but perhaps when you have a crazy kid...you shouldn’t put a gun in their hands....just a thought.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 9:05:32 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Mamzelle

Blame anyone you like.

But at some point we have to say that flat out crazy people can’t own guns, IMO.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 9:05:52 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Lanza didn’t own guns, Bunny. His mother did.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 9:07:12 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: BunnySlippers

Daily Mail pictures cannot be posted


17 posted on 12/15/2012 9:07:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: BunnySlippers

Crazy people don’t have a second amendment? Who determines who is crazy and who is not? Which mental illnesses would qualify? Depression? Anxiety? Anger issues? Bipolar disorders? autism?


18 posted on 12/15/2012 9:09:32 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
There have always been murders and slaughters, only the methods and maybe the scenarios have changed.

That should be the headline on every newspaper in the nation.

Murders are a fact of life, there are two restraints: self-defense and the rule of law.

Again, they are a fact of life, they can not be eliminated. Anyone is suggests they are seeking a way to eliminate them is either misguided or trying to deceive.

There is no way to predict who will commit crimes and prevent them from comitting the crimes.

Crime needs to be punished according to the rule of law.

Evil politicians are using this tragedy to further their own goal of disarming the American public, which is impossible.
19 posted on 12/15/2012 9:10:48 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Mamzelle

Gun owners need to own guns responsibly. That means locking them up or rendering them unusable.

The GOP is going to have to stave off gun control. I’m willing to consent to fines and imprisonment for parents [and others] who do not lock their guns to prevent someone else going postal.

Think of the many toddlers who get daddy’s gun ... I say lock him up!


20 posted on 12/15/2012 9:10:48 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Who determines what crazy is?

Who enforces the rule that crazy people don’t have guns?

Does the federal government have crazy people in it?

Does the federal government own guns?


21 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:22 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

I agree. But we have to work this out. I don’t want to lose my guns because the VAST majority of gun massacres are done by crazies.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:55 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: penelopesire

We had friends who had a bipolar son of college age. They made the mistake of allowing him access to their hunting guns and he eventually killed himself. Some people just aren’t convinced that their “crazy” kids on meds aren’t a threat to themselves and others.
What we have here is a mental public health issue, not a guns are evil issue. I don’t know what law you can write to change it, since it gets down to personal responsibility.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:55 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: BunnySlippers
OK, lock up Mama Lanza.

There is nothing that will stop this. Connecticut is already very gun controlling.

But it will provide an excuse for the grabbers to come after our guns. I'm sure they appreciate your support.

24 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:11 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: BunnySlippers

I think we are going to have to hold people accountable

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Just curious.... What accountability would you demand of the now deceased owner of the weapons?


25 posted on 12/15/2012 9:15:45 AM PST by deport
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To: chris37

See 22.

If it comes down to defining crazy or me and 10s of millions of responsible people losing their right to gun ownership ... then I’m going to define crazy. So be it.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 9:15:57 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

There were always wars, 12/20. Always. Back to Babylon, there were wars and massacres and atrocities committed on the battlefield by men under arms, or bandit gangs.

But kids didn’t walk into kindergartens, solo, and blast 20 small children. That is 100% new.

Ultra-violent and ultra-expliscit movies and video games are new in the human condition, and they desensitize children. First person shooter video games they are a trigger for folks already close to the edge, and I can prove it.

Extensive military studies showed that less than 10% of WW1 soldiers ever aimed and fired directly at enemy soldiers, even in bitter trench warfare across no-man’s-land. The stats were little better in WW2. Why? The first person “kill image” was never in a person’s head to begin with, before ultra violent movies and video games put them there.

Rifle training before combat was almost all at distant round bullseye match targets. Most people had “thou shalt not kill” deeply ingrained in their minds, and round targets on a range did not transfer to killing actual live humans in combat.

By the 1960s, modern military psychologists understood this “problem,” and they changed rifle training to pop-up reactive targets that looked like actual enemies. I remember shooting Viet Cong popup targets with rice paddy hats carrying AKs. The targets were visible for only seconds, so you had to shoot the humanoid target fast to make your quals and pass.

In Viet Nam, the percentage of actualyoung American troops WW1, WW2 and Korea. This fact is beyond dispute. The “first person” fast-reaction humanoid popup target training is mainly the reason why.

Then we got the first-person POV combat video games, and kids today are rewired from an early age to visualize and actually enjoy rapidly shooting human-looking “enemies” in front of them.

Combine this neural rewiring (from a baseline of “thou shalt not kill” in 1910, to “kill them fast!” in 2012) and the potential psychos among us now know exactly what to do when they lose control of their rage. Get a gun, be the shooter, and achieve instant fame and immortality via the MSM’s celebrity and fame machine.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 9:16:18 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BunnySlippers
Over all, "crazy people" are no more violent than normal people. What ever happened to blaming the individual involved for his actions. Sociologizing is a lame lefty game.
28 posted on 12/15/2012 9:17:16 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Oldexpat
Obviously, family members should do everything possible to keep loopy relatives away from their guns. What scares me are idiot lawmakers who'll dream up regulations to cover this.

Here's a little background for anyone willing to do their homework.

Do you know anyone who works in a a busy ER? I mean the kind that draws patients from a wide area.

Ask them how mental illness and drug abuse are impacting the mission to take care of acute onset patients.

Did you know that many ERs, more and more, actually have *boarding* facilities for the violently mentally ill...right next to you who have come in to get your daughter's ear infection treated.

A madhouse in your ER.

I'll keep my guns, thank you very much.

29 posted on 12/15/2012 9:17:22 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: maggief

“She said she would often go target shooting with her kids.”

Probably not a good idea if one of them is deeply disturbed and medicated.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 9:17:31 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: deport

Think about it. She’s dead.

Think about the dozens of toddlers who got daddy’s gun. They die and he lives free.

No one is asking that we punish the dead. That is silly.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 9:17:49 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Then it is you who is crazy.

Go turn in your guns, and stay away from mine.


32 posted on 12/15/2012 9:19:37 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Maladjusted goth kid who was coddled by PC psychologists afraid to call a freak a freak. I have a in-law nephew like this. Yep, he’s really smart, has no friends, and a twitch. He coolly asks for a check for Christmas, so he can buy a better device with which to tune out the real world. And no, his family doesn’t observe any faith. They’re proud, secular, humanists. Probably a lot like Adam Lanza’s parents. These kids are out there, and damn easy to spot.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 9:19:51 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: Travis McGee
I agree with you. I think Hollywood is more to blame, particularly ironic with the recent Tarantino release where Jamie Foxx brags about how he gets to play a character who "kills hundred of white people."
34 posted on 12/15/2012 9:20:17 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: TaxPayer2000

Right? Seems like in the Soviet Union a crazy diagnoses was made if you questioned the length of the bread line.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 9:21:15 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Mamzelle

We hope we can keep our guns. They’re going to have to come after me one on one.

But sometime there is going to be a tipping point and gun ownership will be debated.

I’m willing to give concessions to try to keep crazy people from getting them and/or securing your guns so crazies can’t get them.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 9:21:35 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
That means locking them up or rendering them unusable.

All of my weapons are loaded and unlocked. I'll not ever do as you say. An unloaded weapon is a club.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

/johnny

37 posted on 12/15/2012 9:21:50 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BunnySlippers
Gun owners need to own guns responsibly. That means locking them up or rendering them unusable.

Yeah, and when I see a rattlesnake in the yard (quite a common event) or someone forces his way into my house, I'll just ask them to please be so kind as to wait while I go get my gun ready!!

Seriously, when my children were young, it wasn't hard to keep the guns in a rack, out of reach. But, by the time they were able to reach for them, not only they knew better but "securing" them would have rendered them useless. The only exception to this rule was when they had friends over, to play. Then, and only then, the guns were locked in the closet, and my bedroom door closed. Visitors were made aware that my room was out of bounds when playing.

38 posted on 12/15/2012 9:22:18 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: BillyBonebrake

We’ve bred a lot of what you describe. How old is he?


39 posted on 12/15/2012 9:23:09 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: chris37

Yeah, I understand that and I think I’ve made it abundantly clear on my many posts on this thread.

I am willing to admit that not everyone should have a gun ... because they’re crazy. Because 99.999% of gun owners are sane and responsible.

I suppose you think 100)% are responsible gun owners.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 9:25:21 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Oldexpat

I agree. Also see the problem with who gets to define ‘crazy’....Obama’s fascist goons would probably define conservatives as ‘crazy’ and lock us up first. But at some point common sense has to rule. Most people know when their kid is ‘off’......don’t put guns in their hands!! People who are violently mentally ill...should be put in secure institutions.We have people roaming the streets who have long histories of violent mental disturbances and their families can’t do anything!
We can’t put them away because of ridiculous liberal laws.

I think we are going to find that this mother was a little screwy herself...sadly.


41 posted on 12/15/2012 9:25:35 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Think about the dozens of toddlers who got daddy’s gun.

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This wasn’t a daddy’s gun thing. Everything I’ve read is the weapons belonged to the mother, were legal and registered in her name. Also that she was an avid shooter, etc.

So again how are you going to hold the owner accountable now that she is dead?


42 posted on 12/15/2012 9:26:20 AM PST by deport
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To: Former Fetus

I sense you are sane and responsible ... given you are in a rural or semi rural area.

So many toddler gets daddy’s gun situations are urban and the gun is in the top drawer while the baby is lying on the bed.

You’re smart, you know when it’s safe.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

I can’t believe people are posting from the Daily Mail. They are known mainly for posting articles showing fannies and breasts of the latest plastic surgery of so called celebrities to keep them in the news.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 9:28:02 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: penelopesire

Look around you, 80 percent of the world is a little screwy.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 9:28:27 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Mamzelle

He’s 15, and every polite word out of his mouth sounds as programmed and scripted as could be. I don’t trust him one eentsie little bit.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 9:28:51 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: freekitty

Not at all! They are a [mostly] conservative British tabloid ... in Britain they are all tabloids.

They routinely post anti-Obama stuff that never shows up in US papers.

Perhaps you are thinking of the lesser Brit tabloids.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 9:30:22 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
I’m willing to consent to fines and imprisonment for parents [and others] who do not lock their guns to prevent someone else going postal.

I'm perfectly willing to consent to letting you carry a concealed weapon inside or outside of your house, as long as it is locked inside a safe which you - and only you - have the combination. You can even put the safe on wheels and tow it behind you on a public thoroughfare. Sound reasonable? If I'm being too lax, I'm also willing to make you store the ammunition at a separate location under penalty of imprisonment and confiscation of all your assets.

This fair, commonsense proposal is subject to change, as I may arbitrarily determine that you don't have a legitimate reason to own a gun anyway.

Mr. niteowl77

48 posted on 12/15/2012 9:31:16 AM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: humblegunner

I’m thinking because guns get stolen, as in this case, wrestled free from the owner, that to fire they should be owner coded to fire. Would that be impossible?


49 posted on 12/15/2012 9:31:53 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: deport

I’m not talking about this school shooting.

I’m talking about many past events of toddlers getting their parents guns.

Think!


50 posted on 12/15/2012 9:32:04 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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