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TEA PARTY VS. PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICANS BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE GOP
www.theBLAZE.com ^ | December 3, 2012 | Meredith Jessup

Posted on 12/04/2012 1:16:06 AM PST by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: establishment; gopcivilwar; republican; tea
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Thank you Meredith Jessup, and thanks to Glenn Beck for putting this editorial out.
To HELL with "Establishment Republicans" !Establishment Republicans
1 posted on 12/04/2012 1:16:24 AM PST by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

The ideological backbone of the democrats/communists is infiltration, infiltration, infiltration.

They will try to take over even the Tea Party, and to some degree we’ve already seen some false Tea Party initiatives.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 1:44:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: All
Let us ALL remember this.
"Establishment Republicans" lose everytime they're listened to.
They wouldn't care if they DO lose.
If they can't be in power, they don't want US in power.
It's just that simple.
It's WAR!

On another thread, WhiskeyX's analysis is very good onRepublican Primaries being manipulated by RINOs, and mind-numb Democrats following marching orders from the left.



Very well described!
Maybe it's time we got some DINOs to copy this evil plan against Democrats.
But who would soil their name and credibility, to do such an evil thing against the real evildoers?


"Establishment Republicans" Want to Redefine the Term "Conservative"
DO CONSERVATIVES "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?

Palin was my first choice, but she dropped out.
Bachmann became my first choice,and she dropped out.
Cain was my second choice, but he dropped out.
Now ... Newt was my second choice, but he challenged Rush.
So now ... Rick Santorum, who use to be my third choice, is now my first choice.

But Romney, ... well at least he's not as bad as McCain was.

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!
3 posted on 12/04/2012 1:59:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Hardraade
It's probably beyond us to infiltrate the Democrats Communist, but for those who could stomach it,
I remember reading another article that's worth rereading.
For more information on today's problems, read this from August 4, 2008. Wake up people! Look what the Democrats have done!
4 posted on 12/04/2012 2:13:14 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; MestaMachine

Lol. Is not really beyond us to infiltrate. To some degree we’ve been doing that, and large-scale even. We have membership in places you wouldn’t believe ;).

We’ll be offering our services to the right, for profit, but I’m no businessperson really. So the sane bit of the enterprise will eventually be handled by Mesta.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 2:33:27 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade
I can abide the left.
I'd wind up in a nut house if I listened to them for very long.
I can't wait until we "gather the tares" for destruction.
6 posted on 12/04/2012 2:51:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Hardraade

7 posted on 12/04/2012 3:03:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Already started, Starve the Beast 2.0, because we know what is in the US Constitution and why it is there. RINO’s can cause a lot of anxiety, but the purge wasn’t going to happen over-nite.


8 posted on 12/04/2012 3:14:23 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: Hardraade

RINOs, along with every democrat in Washington, DC, should be arrested and immediately held for high crimes and treason against the United States. It’s either that or we dead as a country. Welcome to the United Socialist Republic of America.


9 posted on 12/04/2012 3:30:00 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Should we put them in camps first.or just execute them?


10 posted on 12/04/2012 3:42:46 AM PST by sakic
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To: Hardraade
There's a serious question to address here ~ do the Republicans represent the Democrats, or maybe some other body of people?

Those who think the public voted for compromise of some kind with the Democrats must imagine that the Republicans represent the Democrats!

Take a good look at the election results ~ Obama got 7 million fewer votes this time than last. The Republicans got about the same number as before, but if they'd gotten as much as they did in George Bush' second election, they'd won it all!

Some wonder where the missing Bush Republicans were ~ thinking that they must be 'moderates' of some kind who stepped aside to punish the Conservatives. Actually, they're dead ~ the Boomers are coming of age ~ the END OF LIFE CYCLE ~ where they start having to deal with a far higher death rate. Unless you make up for their loss with an aggressive voter registration drive among younger potential voters, you lose!

As i recall it, and as many others even in the Romney camp are beginning to point out, his campaign didn't make that effort ~ didn't even think it was necessary. After all, he'd said he was going to go after the 10% of undecided moderates who'd decide the election.

Guess they forgot to register because whatever they decided they didn't vote!

Also, there are no moderates anyway

11 posted on 12/04/2012 3:45:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yosemitest

Thing is, nice people don’t fight the communists very well.

You need cutthroats. Reagan was decidedly one of the most not-nice critters in US politics, when he had to be.

Nice is people like Moynihan being more or less murdered by Hillary Clinton. His forced endorsement of Hillary is as grotesque as anything you’ll see out of Obama.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 3:47:55 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade

“Specifically, many now wonder what the sobering 2012 election results means for the right-leaning Tea Party,”

Well, it certainly means more for the establishment GOP which just committted suicide. It is now officially dead to independents, libertarians and tea party thinkers.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 3:49:43 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: muawiyah

I’ve said this before: Normal people don’t deal well with psychopaths, which is what you have on the left.

Reagan had the killer instinct. He’d go for the throat and kill you, pleasant as he might seem.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 3:53:04 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Yosemitest

Nice post, thanks.


15 posted on 12/04/2012 4:23:08 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Yosemitest
This much is true — GOP turnout in 2012 was lower than both the 2008 and 2004 elections. Turnout this year dropped by 7.9 million voters, falling to 123.6 million from 131.5 million in 2008.

The author of this piece is an incompetent idiot.

Turnout for Romney was higher than in 2008, and is still higher even when accounting for population growth.

And right now total turnout is only 3 million votes behind 2008, with about a million more uncounted votes.

16 posted on 12/04/2012 4:23:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Yosemitest

What a mess. I am not reading that crazy formatted thing.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 4:29:37 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yosemitest

In the primaries the Tea Party (true conservatives) backing and votes where split between numerous candidates (Palin,
Bachmann,Cain,Santorum, etc) while the establishment had already met behind-closed-doors and picked Romney. So what chance did we have? Our vote was so watered down that the establishment’s choice was a given.

What if the Tea Party meets behind-closed doors before the primaries and decides on a candidate that we will all back? There is a good chance that TOGETHER our votes will outweigh the establishment’s choice.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 4:30:09 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Yosemitest
GOP turnout in 2012 was lower than both the 2008 and 2004 elections. Turnout this year dropped by 7.9 million voters, falling to 123.6 million from 131.5 million in 2008. This year’s underwhelmed electorate marked the first decline in a presidential election in 16 years.

I read this as the voters saying to the GOP-e, "Your candidate SUCKS. Give us a Conservative to vote for, not some Progressive."

19 posted on 12/04/2012 4:43:26 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Yosemitest

Yes—mark me down as one for the TEA party....


20 posted on 12/04/2012 4:59:32 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Hardraade

Reagan and the “killer instinct”. Do you mean GHWB, Sandra Day O’Connor, or others who undermined his administration measures?


21 posted on 12/04/2012 5:08:37 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Then there is no point in running primaries ~ what you've done is shut out the rank and file Republican voters.

Tell you what, it's much better to purge the GOP-e. They're the ones with the bad candidates who can't win even when the election is handed to them.

22 posted on 12/04/2012 5:31:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hardraade
True, but God's people know how to fight.
And most of the retired military know how to fight.
But if we do fight, we have to fight the judges too. To do this right, the Republicans MUST START HEARINGS TO DRAW UP BILLS OF IMPEACHMENT for the Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) and for all who had any thing to do with his TREASON.
It must be televised, and it must include every dirty detail against them we can find.

Benghazi is the drum to beat.

23 posted on 12/04/2012 5:34:29 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: broken_arrow1
Thank you for reading it.
Pass it along to those you think will use it for good.
24 posted on 12/04/2012 5:36:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Strategerist
Do you have some links to prove "Turnout for Romney was higher than in 2008, and is still higher even when accounting for population growth."?
25 posted on 12/04/2012 5:38:31 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: central_va
Anything to avoid the facts, right? < /sarcasm>
You could always go to the original source !
26 posted on 12/04/2012 5:42:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Strategerist
Be careful how you deal with total turnout versus Republican voters and Democrat voters.

The Democrats suffered a serious drop off in voters ~ Republicans failed to achieve as high a total as they had in 2004, but there was no 2008 to 2012 drop off.

At the same time there were still 10s of millions of potential Republican and Democrat voters out there who did not vote ~ as is usually the case.

We already know there's little mixing of the two bodies of voters ~ that sort of thing happens only over a long period of time and by the election, people who are going to vote know how they're going to vote. Probably the reason why someone who says he's switching is news ~ 'cause it doesn't happen all that often.

The purpose of a political party is, after all, to win elections. They do this by building up a following that can be depended on to vote for the party's candidates. To get the voters to turn out they present fresh, intelligent and ideologically compatible candidates.

One screw-up and you lose ~ e.g. you decide the party is really just a narrow faction of serious donors within the party and the others just go along, because, after all, where else can they go. Another one is to run old used up candidates with a reputation for being dull ~ or disinterested in issues where the voters are interested. Then, let's say you run a candidate who'd be better matched by the other party ~ well, let's just say what Harry Truman said, Democrat voters know that when faced with a choice between a real Democrat and a fake Democrat they'll pick the real Democrat every time.

27 posted on 12/04/2012 5:45:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Then there is no point in running primaries ~ what you've done is shut out the rank and file Republican voters..... it's much better to purge the GOP-e. They're the ones with the bad candidates who can't win even when the election is handed to them."

Sorry, I just don't agree. I would much rather have had only two candidates vieing for primary votes. One would have been Romney (chosen by the GOP establishment), and one would have been whoever the Tea Party "establishment" chose.... perhaps chosen by all the Tea Party candidate wannabes (Palin,Bachmann,Cain,Newt, & Santorum) getting together and deciding among themselves which one of them they will all agree to support. I could have lived with any one of those rather than Romney.

28 posted on 12/04/2012 5:46:08 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I think you might see that very action about backing one candidate, and the TEA party telling the Establishment Republicans"
29 posted on 12/04/2012 5:46:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

“Establishment Republicans”

Basically 1970’s Democrats.....


30 posted on 12/04/2012 5:47:02 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: upchuck
I couldn't agree with you more!
They did.
31 posted on 12/04/2012 5:49:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
All you needed to do was have closed primaries ~ that way you wouldn't have had all those Democrats showing up to vote for Romney. They knew he was the weakest possible candidate.

Remember for Conservative Republicans Romney wasn't ever a contender ~ NOT EVER ~ not this year, not in 2008 ~ NEVER.

In a closed primary he'd never gotten more than his 20% standard.

32 posted on 12/04/2012 5:51:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mo
You got that right !
33 posted on 12/04/2012 5:54:09 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: muawiyah
QUESTION reference the voter drop-off: I guess the signed sheets where people met the pollsters to get their cards that activate the electronic voting machines would show a real count,
but sign-in sheets could always be "lost" and new BLANK numbered sign-in sheets could be re-printed.
But I'm sure the Obama minions would NEVER think of something so corrupt, let alone ... actually do it.
34 posted on 12/04/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: muawiyah
"All you needed to do was have closed primaries"

Are you saying that Romney didn't win in any states that had closed primaries?

35 posted on 12/04/2012 6:09:14 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: muawiyah
Do you believe there was Voter Fraud?

Someone wrote:
I don't completely agree.
I believe there WAS ENOUGH Voter Fraud to throw the 80 Electoral College Votes from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Florida.
I also believe that had Romney SAVAGED Obama, like he SAVAGED the Conservatives that ran against him in the Primary, Romney would have gotten more votes in the General election.
So yes, it's Romney's fault, but there WAS ENOUGH VOTER FRAUD to steal the election for Obama.
Romney might have won, but with Obama's Criminals running the "Justice Department", they'll never admit Romney won.

Black States = States Obama won by Voter Fraud. Click the state for more information.

Dean Chambers of UnskewedPolls.com Creates Obama Voter Fraud Map

Photo Credit: Barackofraudo.com


36 posted on 12/04/2012 6:20:59 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

BookMark

May God keep watch.
Tatt


37 posted on 12/04/2012 6:23:29 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Romney 'won' a fixed primary in VA which does not have a closed primary.

That was one of the early ones.

But please listen to what i said, not the voices in your head still telling you that Romney and the Mittbots are God's own winners ~ they're not.

As a matter of principle we should have closed primaries, or use the convention system. Republicans should pick Republican candidates ~ not just the donors or Democrats out for a lark.

38 posted on 12/04/2012 6:30:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yosemitest
“It is getting to point where you can’t reach back and pull another establishment Republican from the queue like we have done with Romney.”

Oh, sure they can. Suuuuure they can!!

Just sing along with me and the YachtTones and the Singing Bonesmen,

Duke, duke, duke, duke of Jeb, duke, duke,
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke,
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke, ....

Pass the Merlot bottle and teenaged boys around and they can sing it all night long.

39 posted on 12/04/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Yosemitest
Democrats have used every method known to mankind to cheat in elections. Some Republicans have done similar things.

We could line everybody up on election day and have them raise their hands. Some Democrat would still try to cheat.

40 posted on 12/04/2012 6:32:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yosemitest
Photobucket Let's pick the new party logo for the Republican party
41 posted on 12/04/2012 6:35:55 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: lentulusgracchus

Lol.


42 posted on 12/04/2012 6:39:26 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: Theodore R.

Oh, Reagan had his blind spots and his weird priorities. For example, he employed an outspoken and very active nazist in the WH. And when Arafat and the whole of the PLO was under the IDF hammer and about to be killed to the last animal, it was Reagan who shipped them all, with their weapons. to safety. I think it was just that the Evil Empire took everything he had. Goes to show that there’s no such thing as perfect.

But for a bareknuckles political fight, the air traffic controllers should be enough of an example.


43 posted on 12/04/2012 6:43:06 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: baddog 219

I like your pictures but you have the pentagrams upside down. How about a snake, goat or weasel?


44 posted on 12/04/2012 6:46:15 AM PST by Hayride
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To: lentulusgracchus
Just like They'll follow the Devil's minion to their doom.
45 posted on 12/04/2012 6:54:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Hardraade

very active nazist in the WH.

Who are you talking about?


46 posted on 12/04/2012 6:58:53 AM PST by DManA
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Until we get the primaries out of the hands of the east coast RINOS we will make little head way!! This needs to be addressed!! There needs to be initiatives to close all primaries and move them all to one day or at least get a few southern red states up in the front of the line. I am tired of having no choice by the time I get to vote.

In the past two primaries especially all my horses were already in the stable by my turn. No way people in Texas would have carried Mittens.


47 posted on 12/04/2012 7:01:25 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: baddog 219
Here's something appropriate for their "backbone".
48 posted on 12/04/2012 7:05:33 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: DManA

This guy:

http://www.whitakeronline.org/

Very active member of Stormfront throughout, and also runs WhiteRabbit radio and a number of other White Rabbit outlets. In some ways remarkably like David Duke, and like Duke, much of his message is sensible. Until the teeth come out.

He was employed by the WH as the house security officer.


49 posted on 12/04/2012 7:11:30 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade
Hey, I was in the Err Farce when the strike hit,
and we had many air traffic controllers depart from Seymour Johnson AFB with only a two hour notice before the Lear Jets flew them off to Houston, Jacksonville, New York, and to several Terminal Approach Controls.
After I retired, I worked 5 years with the FAA, and they still hated the USAF for busting their strike.
I love Ronald Reagan. He did the right thing, and he'd do it again.
Unions, go to hell!
50 posted on 12/04/2012 7:12:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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