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Conservatives vs. the GOP - Republicans in Congress are warned that they will lose their base if...
National Review Online ^ | November 30, 2012 | John Fund

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:20:39 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 11/30/2012 2:20:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I think Republicans lost the election BECAUSE they're not listening to their base...
2 posted on 11/30/2012 2:22:41 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: neverdem

The Republicans have already lost their “Base”. What they now are trying so hard to lose is all the rest of the voters that might be swayed to vote for them. The Pubbies are a defunct species. Santa Clause has come to town.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:27 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Tzimisce

Precisely! If the GOP is going to lose anyway, I might as well vote and contribute to those that reflect my conservative views and to hell with the RINOs!


4 posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:58 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: neverdem

Maybe if the GOP kicks us to the curb, they could be doing us a favor? Maybe the time is for the Unthinkable. Third Party.


5 posted on 11/30/2012 2:27:50 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: neverdem

Primary all the SOB’s that sign on to a ‘deal’. They have left the party..............


6 posted on 11/30/2012 2:30:49 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: neverdem

The GOP lost me. I vote for them because they’re not as bad as the other party. Kind of like choosing the gas chamber or hanging.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 2:32:28 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: neverdem

Republicans won’t lose their base, though they deserve to, as long as the party elite keeps nominating frauds like Mitt Romney and getting people to ‘vote for the R’.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 2:33:16 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

YAY!!! Now we are finally hearing it. Where the heck were they BEFORE this election? Why didn’t we hear this when we were being sold down the river by the rino elite?


9 posted on 11/30/2012 2:35:05 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: neverdem
I've hung out with republicans as long as I could stand. They're useless dumbasses! I can tell everyone this, the stupid party is no longer a home for conservatives.

The GOP/RNC can go pound sand!

10 posted on 11/30/2012 2:37:17 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: neverdem

It’s already happened as proven by the last election. The GOP conservative base is gone, and the fools are doing everything possible to get rid of those still clinging to them.

Actually, the beltway GOP folks are probably intentionally keeping distance from conservatives and like values in order to keep the left wing media off their backs.

The time for a third party has never been better.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 2:51:09 PM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: Mamzelle

What are the rules for the structure of a 3rd party??

I am ready to change my 51 year long registration as a Republican & vote Tea Party if I have the chance.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 2:51:32 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: sirchtruth

It should all start upstream.

COnservaties should have told the media to mind their F’ing business while we picked a presidential candidate.

I am tired of the media selecting our RINO candidates who will either lose or follow the Democrat party line.

We should have stood beside Palin and Cain.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 2:55:16 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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Why don’t we hear conservatives talking about the Laffer curve? Has everybody forgotten the PROOF that decreasing taxes results in higher revenues for the government? Reagan did it, Kennedy did it, ad infinitim. And how about those millionaires leaving Britain, resulting in a loss of 7 billion pounds? Come on, Conservatives, do your research.


14 posted on 11/30/2012 2:59:50 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: neverdem

3rd party gets us nothing but further marginalization. If drastic action is needed, which it is, secession is the only logical option. I support it.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 3:02:53 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Tzimisce
I think Republicans lost the election BECAUSE they're not listening to their base...

Once again the tax slaves - the working people - had no one to vote FOR. The Republicans just toss them an old, dry bone once in a while (so they can feed their own children).


The politicians and freeloaders get richer and richer while the tax slaves get poorer and poorer.



16 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:45 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Tzimisce

I disagree. The Republican party IS listening to their base. Their base being the liberal, Northeast Ivy League elite that think conservatives are something that should be seen in a zoo.
I still wonder when the conservatives in the country are going to learn, the Republican party hates us damn near as much as the Democrats do and tolerate us only to get any funds or votes we can produce.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 3:05:40 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Don Corleone
The Republicans have already lost their “Base”.

What the GOP is and has been trying to do for years is build a new base. They hate that we are their base now and wish they could get rid of us. You see they find conservatives and evangelicals embarrassing. They pander to them a little, as little as possible, then try to govern in such a way as to attract center-left moderates. This is what they want to be as a party, they want to be able to rub shoulders with movie stars and authors and professors and tycoons and talk about how socially responsible they are. They sure don't want to be stuck having to go to church and talk about stopping abortion. Uh uh!

No, they want to have a party where people like us are a small fringe that they can ignore and safely count on to show up because the democrats are somehow worse.

Their problem isn't that they lost us, not that's the plan. Their problem is that they didnt replace us with anything. The fact that they can't close that sale with the moderates is maddening to them. They blame us for that because they say we turn off the moderates and it makes them resent us all the more. Nevermind that they keep running "moderates" who not only can't bring in their fellow moderates (i.e. liberals who are embarrassed to admit it) but also fail to energize the base. No, it's our fault. First we scare away the lefties then we have the gall to not show up like good mind numbed robots and vote for them! And all the while their pets like Rove and Steve Smith and McCain spit in our faces frequently and openly.

I used to think the talk of a fracture in the GOP coalition was liberal talk to try to drive a wedge. I think it was at one time but I think the open contempt for conservatives is winning out and we ought to let them have the party, let them pursue their new base while we look to create our own identity outside the GOP.

18 posted on 11/30/2012 3:06:36 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Mamzelle
Maybe the time is for the Unthinkable. Third Party.

Maybe. Too many pubbies are just economic fools.

19 posted on 11/30/2012 3:12:07 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Reagan didn't leave the democrat party. The democrat party left him.

Conservatives didn't leave the Republican party. The Republican party left them.

20 posted on 11/30/2012 3:13:59 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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