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To: Don Corleone
The Republicans have already lost their “Base”.

What the GOP is and has been trying to do for years is build a new base. They hate that we are their base now and wish they could get rid of us. You see they find conservatives and evangelicals embarrassing. They pander to them a little, as little as possible, then try to govern in such a way as to attract center-left moderates. This is what they want to be as a party, they want to be able to rub shoulders with movie stars and authors and professors and tycoons and talk about how socially responsible they are. They sure don't want to be stuck having to go to church and talk about stopping abortion. Uh uh!

No, they want to have a party where people like us are a small fringe that they can ignore and safely count on to show up because the democrats are somehow worse.

Their problem isn't that they lost us, not that's the plan. Their problem is that they didnt replace us with anything. The fact that they can't close that sale with the moderates is maddening to them. They blame us for that because they say we turn off the moderates and it makes them resent us all the more. Nevermind that they keep running "moderates" who not only can't bring in their fellow moderates (i.e. liberals who are embarrassed to admit it) but also fail to energize the base. No, it's our fault. First we scare away the lefties then we have the gall to not show up like good mind numbed robots and vote for them! And all the while their pets like Rove and Steve Smith and McCain spit in our faces frequently and openly.

I used to think the talk of a fracture in the GOP coalition was liberal talk to try to drive a wedge. I think it was at one time but I think the open contempt for conservatives is winning out and we ought to let them have the party, let them pursue their new base while we look to create our own identity outside the GOP.

18 posted on 11/30/2012 3:06:36 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: pepsi_junkie

The “R’s” lost this country when they stood by and did nothing about immigration. If they hate whites and natives so much, they can KMA.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 3:59:36 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: pepsi_junkie; Mamzelle; redfreedom; concerned about politics; Norm Lenhart; All; ...
pepsi says: I used to think the talk of a fracture in the GOP coalition was liberal talk to try to drive a wedge. I think it was at one time but I think the open contempt for conservatives is winning out and we ought to let them have the party, let them pursue their new base while we look to create our own identity outside the GOP.

Mamzelle says: Maybe the time is for the Unthinkable. Third Party.

Redfreedom says: The time for a third party has never been better.

Concerned says: Once again the tax slaves - the working people - had no one to vote FOR. The Republicans just toss them an old, dry bone once in a while (so they can feed their own children).

Norm Lenhart says: Those who call liberal ideas and candidates ‘conservative’. Plenty infest every remotely conservative site on the web, including this one. We can be serious about who and what we are and believe, or we can keep playing this pathetic game.

Repeat Offender says: "conservatives" sold themselves down the river so "the lesser of two evils," or "at least a Republican" would win. Principles are only matters of convenience and bargaining chips to be squandered away for the sake of "our guy" winning an election. It's how "conservatives" justify calling Myth Romney "pro-life," "pro-family," and pro-gun rights. Even though he supports abortion; queers in the Boy Scouts, queers in the military, and queer "marriage;" and supported, pushed for, and signed anti-gun legislation. But claiming he has "evolved" or outright ignoring the truth helps them sleep at night.

Christie says: The moderates of the GOP-e continue to marginalize the conservatives because they have in their armor, one thing. They say where else will those suckers go.

Functional liberal Democrat Romney is the apex of Republican folly. What the hell is the point of being a Republican if Romney represents you? Yet that damned guy is a friggin' vampire. And there are more throughout the party -- big government statists who determine "rights" the Founders stated came only from God. So Government grants such "rights" as the "right" to health insurance and health care, the "right" of atheists to live without city-funded Christmas decorations, and the "right" of homosexuals to force adoption agencies to accommodate them if a "married" couple wants to adopt. When government starts usurping God in dictating morality, society becomes immoral. The Founders knew this.

The only way to ditch Romney and his ilk is to leave the party. And if the rat bastard tries to register in the new party, he should be kicked to the curb. The hardest fight is going to be choosing a third party to rally around. I fancy the Constitution party myself, not because I know anything about its platform, but because its very name as an immediately communicated third party concept with across-the-board appeal to Americans who are sick and tired of government dictating their morality, their charity, their health care, their income, their retirement, their very homes and property rights -- a party philosophy built around the concept of restoring Constitutional liberty and right to self-determination is a solid rallying point.

Americans are mostly a moral, good people, and honest elections would reflect this. There's a long road to fight, but I kinda think a third party, much feared, is the way to go if only to ditch Romney and the political gangrene he represents.

40 posted on 11/30/2012 7:13:05 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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