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McDonald's, KFC, Burger King workers protest in NYC
CNN Money ^ | Nov. 29, 2012 | Emily Jane Fox

Posted on 11/29/2012 9:57:50 PM PST by babyfreep

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Pamela Waldron makes $7.75 an hour as a cashier at the KFC in New York's Penn Station, where she has worked for eight years.

That's just 50 cents above the New York state minimum wage. The 26-year old nursing student, and mother of two, says she has asked for a raise but her pleas have gone unheeded for weeks.

Finally, on Thursday, around lunchtime she joined a protest of about 40 fast food workers who walked out of their shifts, carrying placards and shouting slogans to bring attention to their cause of fighting for higher wages and the right to unionize. The protest was held outside a Burger King (BKW) near Penn Station.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: fastfood; protest; unions; wages
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I had a feeling this was coming.
1 posted on 11/29/2012 9:57:57 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: babyfreep

They can always start their own business and pay themselves what they think they are worth.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 9:59:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babyfreep

I am sure shee had some marketable skills and knowledge, she should find a job that pays better.

Probably got a Ph.d in Vagina Studies


3 posted on 11/29/2012 10:00:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babyfreep
Ms. Pamela? Did it work?

Betcha Ms. Pamela you drew a lot of attention to Burger King and they will be VERY BUSY tomorrow, thanks for the free advertising for them babe. good job.....

4 posted on 11/29/2012 10:04:39 PM PST by annieokie
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To: babyfreep

Fast food work is an entry-level job folks. The pay is not meant to support a family...just like sweeping floors at Walmart isn’t.

I worked a factory job in the early 90s. It wasn’t much money, but it was OK for the time. My duties were extensive and took some knowledge which I gained through experience.

I asked for a 50 cent/hr raise after 2 years. They only gave me a quarter. I got a better paying job and quit which is exactly what these people who don’t like their current pay should attempt to do. No one is forcing them to stay at this job.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 10:06:25 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: babyfreep

Hey Pam, try looking for a better paying job or try to work hard enough to be considered for a KFC manager position. I love these people. They deserve a better wage because well, they just do. Don’t work harder to get ahead, just ask for more money. Typical democrat mentality. We are so screwed as a nation.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 10:06:45 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: babyfreep

Yo Pammy, let me ax you a kestion... you be having some skills, yo, so lemme ax you this....

Why you not find a better job?

Why you not put your fat trunk on the market?

You think your worth more than $9 an hour? Then prove it.

Start your own bitness and pay yourself what you worth, girl.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 10:09:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babyfreep
Pamela Waldron doesn't seem to understand this yet, but her entire job depends on people choosing not to take an extra five minutes to pack a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch. If ObamaCare raises employee costs which get passed to the consumer, or if they strike for higher minimum wages, or whatever new regulation comes around, customers won't just pay the higher price automatically. They will substitute.

The result would be that the high end restaurants would still exist, but the fast food industry would be gutted, and only vending machines would be profitable.

8 posted on 11/29/2012 10:09:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: GeronL

9 posted on 11/29/2012 10:12:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Good idea, they could take out a big loan to pay themselves 100k a year
while they lose money, then blame the bank when the money runs out.

I have a great idea, quit. I'm sure there are other companies who are willing
to pay more for unskilled labor. Like maybe ten cents more.

10 posted on 11/29/2012 10:15:19 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Vince Ferrer
2-3 person greasy spoon diners will make a comeback


11 posted on 11/29/2012 10:15:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Right Brother
Typical democrat mentality.

The typical democrat mentality is that she is a member of a "class." And when they talk about classes, they are always frozen, no one can ever improve their lives or jobs, no one can join a new "class." She is part of the minimum wage class, forever doomed to get minimum wages, trapped in a hopeless situation. Her only solution is to get the minimum wage raised.

12 posted on 11/29/2012 10:16:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: babyfreep

time for this one to load her can into the studebaker and head on up over to Bakken land where they’re payin mac flippers way more than they’re worth....

‘There’s a boom going on in North Dakota and jobs are plentiful. The “old fashioned oil boom” is called the largest in North America in the last 40 years, according to USA TODAY. If you are looking to make $15.00 per hour as a starting position, you will have to get your bags packed and head for Williston, North Dakota’

regardevue

http://www.insidescooponline.com/2011/08/mcdonalds-paying-1500hour-yes-its-real.html


13 posted on 11/29/2012 10:17:58 PM PST by jimsin ('f)
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To: Vince Ferrer

You took the words right out of my mouth.

If the fast food joints unionize the food prices will skyrocket, more than people are willing to pay — these idiots will bargain themselves right out of a job.

And In the metro areas who will be hurt the most? Holder’s peeps.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 10:20:27 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: babyfreep
3 weeks after 0bama's re-election, McDonald's, KFC and Burger King get hit with workers' protests, just a couple of weeks after Hostess gets taken down by its workers..

Wow, so many coincidences.. 0bama, unions and coincidences, what a trio! Four iconic American companies, hmmmm...

15 posted on 11/29/2012 10:21:13 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: babyfreep
The 26-year old nursing student, and mother of two, says she has asked for a raise but her pleas have gone unheeded for weeks.

I almost want them to get a Union, then let her go beg for a raise/promption.

Lib: Mr. Manager, I have worked here for X years and have been stepping up, can I get a promotion?

Manger: Sorry, Steve has been employed here longer and has seniority, he get's the promoting next.

Lib: But Steve is late every day and hardly does any work.

Manager: Well, now that we have the union, that is out of my control. The Union say Steve is next based on seniority.

Lib: Well, can I get a raise than?

Manager: no. According to the Union contract, you will get a 10 cent raise next year.

16 posted on 11/29/2012 10:21:34 PM PST by matt04
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To: Gasshog

You can bet THIS is what the ‘community organizer’ in the WH was orchestrating with his co-conspirator agitators right after his re-election. OWS wasn’t effective enough, I guess.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 10:24:09 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: babyfreep

hard for this to impact people in a city that has the most restaurants per square foot than anywhere else in america.


18 posted on 11/29/2012 10:26:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: babyfreep

this was the thing that irritated me most about the attack ad on romney spending cuts wold kill middle class jobs - but the imagery running was of entry-level food workers - these are not middle class jobs. they are entry level jobs.


19 posted on 11/29/2012 10:29:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: babyfreep

do you want fries with that strike?


20 posted on 11/29/2012 10:31:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes, it irritates me, too. You’re right - this is not the kind of job one should expect to support a family on. She mentions her husband works to support her family. Well, that’s the way it is supposed to be, Pamela.

Considering the employee turnover that exists in the fast food industry, I would say after working there 8 years - this woman ought to be at least an assistant manager by now.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 10:36:35 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: babyfreep

if she had any drive at all possibly


22 posted on 11/29/2012 10:40:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babyfreep

So will she still have a job tomorrow ? Cause if I was her boss I would fire her a$$ the second she walked out.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 10:41:55 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Who knows? The article also says:

Under the National Labor Relations Act, workers are protected from retaliation as long as they work in concert with at least one other employee to try to change their working conditions. However, they can be “permanently replaced” if they strike for purely economic reasons, according to Ken Margolies, a senior associate at the Worker Institute at Cornell University.

So, she *can* be “permanently replaced”.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 10:45:12 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: babyfreep

“The Worker Institute at Cornell University”...what the heck is that?? (just saw that)


25 posted on 11/29/2012 10:47:38 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: matt04

The best part is that her ten cent raise will be accompanied by fifteen cents an hour in union dues.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 10:55:17 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: babyfreep

Call the WH Ask for Obummer. He has all my money now. Need a tip? Ask him for it.


27 posted on 11/29/2012 10:57:23 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: GeronL

SpongeBob can make burgers better than her!


28 posted on 11/29/2012 10:58:13 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Doc Savage

everyone likes the Krusty Krab!! yum yum


29 posted on 11/29/2012 10:59:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babyfreep

The Age Of Obama.
GIMME GIMME GIMME. It’s owed to me! I want, I want, I want!

Fast food work is entry level. Doesn,t matter who you are or where you are at. If you want more money find a better job. There are only so many dollars to go around in fast food


30 posted on 11/29/2012 10:59:53 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Newbomb Turk

“Ken Margolies started working for the ILR Extension Division at Cornell Labor Programs in 1986 following a career in the labor movement working for the Service Employees Union, the Association of Flight Attendants and the Communications Workers of America. In the mid-1990’s he took a leave from Cornell to work for the Teamsters union.”

I knew that name sounded familiar. Big with SEIU.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 11:05:31 PM PST by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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To: babyfreep

honestly I’ve never understood why people stay working in fast food. Anytime I’ve gone to a busy fastfood restaurant I have to marvel at the efficiency of the machine. The worst service I’ve gotten has been at slow restaurants. I would think after two years working fast food... there would be any amount of jobs she could do in a fast paced environment. AS a former employer... I happily hired people who had fast food experience.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 11:50:08 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: babyfreep
Wonderful!
Let their main clientele, those making minimum wage or on welfare, pay their way through school. It must be nice to actually believe minimum skills people are entitled to determine what their work is worth. Good luck with that.

Find a higher paying job commensurate with your skills, and stop whining.

33 posted on 11/29/2012 11:53:39 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: babyfreep
I’m working on a theory of “mass retirement” for those who can afford it. Lay everyone off. Downsize our lives and starve the Socialist beast. Will people suffer? Mostly Obamabots or people who say “voteing is useless”.
34 posted on 11/30/2012 12:18:54 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: babyfreep

If this was some where else I might agree with you. The volume of business is enormous. I read once people who owned a 24 hour pizza shop in Penn station made 20 million dollars a year. Since it is in the most expensive place to live in the world. The cost of transportation for workers is outrageous. Everything in NY city is nuts. I lived there. Just imagine how many times more money than an average Burger King or McDonalds in a city of 15 million. If these fast food places want quality workers they should give them a raise. IMHO.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 12:27:51 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: babyfreep

NYC: 30 years ago I worked as a waitress there and GUESS what they were allowed to pay me, because I could earn tips?
$1 an hour or $40 a week. My rent was $300 a month!

Think how different it must be now and wonder how much this person’s tips might be. Also, how did she manage to pay her rent all these years on this type of pay?


36 posted on 11/30/2012 2:10:20 AM PST by tinamina
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To: babyfreep

I would say this. Fast-food is ok to start out at....but you need to plan on staying less than four years and moving up to something else. If your life plan is to stick to Fast Food....unless you can get up to shift manager or store manager in eight years...I wouldn’t be sticking around. I will admit that a shift-manager does make a good salary at McDonalds....but if you aren’t there by your late twenties....you aren’t going anywhere.


37 posted on 11/30/2012 2:49:46 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: babyfreep
I got a better paying job and quit which is exactly what these people who don’t like their current pay should attempt to do.

In this economy? Where? Also, where are the FReepers that believe that loyalty should be rewarded with a raise now and then? Should employers NEVER give a raise? If so, why not?

38 posted on 11/30/2012 2:53:48 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: johngrace

It’s a fast food joint. They’re all over NYC. There’s probably one within walking distance of Pam’s home. A couple of my kids worked fast food in high school. You know why? They could walk or ride their bikes there. And I live in suburban Philadelphia. If you decide to make fast food your career then you need to get into management if you expect a living wage. Otherwise, it’s a job for kids and retired people. 8 years and still a regular shift worker? Shame on her.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 3:09:46 AM PST by old and tired
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To: babyfreep

Fire their asses. Give raises to anyone who didn’t bitch and moan....


40 posted on 11/30/2012 3:19:51 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: babyfreep

I almost got thrown out of my college economics class for pointing out that Ebenezer Scrooge (Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol”) must have been paying a fair wage to Bob Cratchet. There was no slavery. If Bob Cratchet could have made more money someplace else he would have gone someplace else. This arose from a discussion about Wal-Mart. A woman in the class had a friend with “an advanced degree” who had taken a job at the local Wal-Mart for $12/hr. The woman in the class felt that Wal-Mart should pay her friend more because she had a college education. (Turns out Wal-Mart was the only employer in this tiny, western town.) I said, “No, if the friend took a job at $12/hour then that was what she’d sold her time for. If she wanted to use her degree then she’d have to move someplace where the degree was needed.” The class was incensed. You should not have to move to get employment!

BTW, I’ve been laid off and the closest job I can find where I have a shot is four states away and it will pay half what I was making. I own my home outright and can’t sell it in today’s market without taking a beating. If I get this job, I will pack the Jetta and MOVE!


41 posted on 11/30/2012 4:31:42 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: babyfreep

Fire them and put up HELP WANTED signs as they protest outside. They will be killed by the stampede of those seeking jobs.

LLS


42 posted on 11/30/2012 4:37:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: babyfreep

On our way to becoming France....


43 posted on 11/30/2012 5:08:37 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: babyfreep

This is why America needs to be free from New York. New York is the liberal centroid, the point from which Marxist collectivisims oozes. The Great Satan is on the Hudson.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 5:12:52 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: babyfreep
... says she has asked for a raise but her pleas have gone unheeded for weeks...

So, she has worked there for 8 years and is only making 50 cents above minimum wage and has asked for a raise and been ignored for weeks. I wonder whether the store has asked her to work like she wanted to actually earn her pay and been ignored for years...

45 posted on 11/30/2012 5:28:23 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: pepsionice

>>but you need to plan<<

And that, my FRiend, is the downfall of many...their inability to make, and stick to, a plan.

I don’t know if I’m getting older and grumpier or if is the reality of the world, but I see more and more people who just don’t think beyond the next hour.

As a very tall politician with nice hair once said, “Hope is not a strategy”. The idiot in the article hopes for a raise, just because she feels entitled to it. Super. But what’s your actual PLAN, dear?


46 posted on 11/30/2012 5:29:27 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: Gen.Blather

>>BTW, I’ve been laid off and the closest job I can find where I have a shot is four states away and it will pay half what I was making.<<

The automotive industry in Central KY is booooooming. I need Engineers, Industrial Maintenance Techs, and Section Managers in a very bad way.


47 posted on 11/30/2012 5:32:27 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: babyfreep

After eight years she should have learned enough to advance to manager instead of still being a cashier. She obviously doesn’t have what it takes and deserves no better than min wage. Unskilled and entry workers don’t deserve large wages and should be thanking big government for regulating the min wage or they’d be making what they’re qualified for and that’s even less.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 5:44:20 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: babyfreep

They want a “living wage” on a job skill set for a semi-literate high-school student?

MOVE OUT OF NYC so you can afford your rent. You don’t belong there if you can’t feed yourself.


49 posted on 11/30/2012 5:46:08 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: babyfreep

Taken in the context of the Fiscal Cliff, the union actions to raise wages are necessary. The unstated solution for resolving the debt issue is inflation resulting from devaluation of the US$.

To sustain the inflation, the people must become comfortable with the constant rise in prices. The discomfort is eliminated by increase in wages. So far, with unemployment at unacceptable levels, labor is not only cheap but plentiful. Employees have no leverage to increase their wages even though their purchasing power is diminished.

The union effort is an attempt to make a general national effort to raise wages that sidesteps the individual employers. For the inflation to neutralize the debt, it must be general and that includes wages. Once the wage inflation resumes after a 25 or so year hiatus the general inflation can proceed upward smoothly.

It will happen. Wage inflation will begin in the midst of unacceptable unemployment. In spite of a populist president, the havenots will have less after the inflation


50 posted on 11/30/2012 5:51:33 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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