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Hostess Mediation Fails, Liquidation To Proceed; Furious Laid Off Workers Now Turn On Labor Union
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| 11/20/12
| Tyler Durden
Posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:57 PM PST by Nachum
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To: taxcontrol
Blame their striking for the cause of the companys demise
Not really since it's the workers themselves who have to vote on whether or not to strike......The union bargaining committee threatened the company with the strike but it was the workers who voted to walk...
I have no doubt that many of them were more than willing to take the proposed cuts in order to keep their jobs but they were outnumbered.
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posted on
11/22/2012 8:46:16 AM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(Jab her with a harpoon.....)
To: Hot Tabasco
But I’m not talking about the union members. I’m talking about the thousands of non-union workers filing a lawsuit against the union.
To: taxcontrol
Im talking about the thousands of non-union workers filing a lawsuit against the union.
Then I would say no to that question also....
The auto supplier I worked for closed down two plants, one in Gary Indiana and the other in Clinton, Michigan back in the early 80's because of their refusal to take concessions. That allowed my plant in Detroit to stay open......
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posted on
11/22/2012 9:25:59 AM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(Jab her with a harpoon.....)
To: Nachum
A number of pro union types in the article's comment section were whining that Hostess wage cuts were intolerable. Unfortunately for them, one of them revealed the true state of their wages by admitting that he was making $125,000/year delivering Twinkies.
This shows that a lot of union types will mislead and lie as readily as they'll breathe and that almost all of them are no less selfish than the executive management they complain about.
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posted on
11/22/2012 10:04:44 AM PST
by
Post Toasties
(Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Eight years of failure and fingerpointing.)
To: Kickass Conservative
yep. I notice.
I also notice that more troops have died in AFG in the past 4 years than in the previous 8...
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posted on
11/22/2012 2:16:57 PM PST
by
castlebrew
(Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Nachum. Sidebars:
- Had to share on Craigslist:HOSTESS Zingers and Ho-Hos!!!! -- $500
- Twinkies bakers say they'd rather lose jobs than take pay cuts
- Goodbye Hostess (15,000 jobs lost today not due to Sandy)
- Twinkies -- A Defense: The real battle at the snack maker is union vs. union.
- The United States of Twinkies
- Mediation between Hostess and bakery union fails
- Hostess Says Talks to Stave off Shutdown Fail
- (Video) Union Dupes to Ship Their own Jobs to Mexico
- Hostess Plans to Liquidate After Mediation Fails
- Hostess and the GM Bailout: Why the Chevy Volt Shouldn't Exist but Twinkies Still Will
- Did Congress kill the Twinkie? The tariff tale behind the Hostess demise.(+video)
- Twinkies May Find Buyer, Hostess CEO Says (Several expressions of interest on the table)
- Can Mitt Romney Save Hostess?
- Sarasota Firm Intends To Bid For Hostess, Twinkies Brands
- Judge Suggests Mediation to Save Hostess; Sides Agree to Talk.
- I, Twinkie
- The Free Market Killed Hostess, And That's A Good Thing
- Killing The Goose (Sowell on Unions)
- The Twinkie Manifesto
- Hostess Bankruptcy: What Role Did Policy Play?
- Hostess employees hope buyers will put them back to work (Yeah right!)
- The Parasite That Kills Its Hostess
- Qeestions about the Hostess Debacle
- Mexican Company and Twinkies: Bimbo Bear Searching for Cream Filling? (VIDEO)
- (Video) Hostess Twinkie Fate a Portent Marxist Life to Come
- Manhandling Hostess, Big Labor Costs 18,500 Workers Their Jobs
- Petition Calls For White House To Bail Out Twinkie Industry
- A Labor Victory over Hostess (satire)
- Walmart Files Charges Against UFCW Union
- Hostess Brands to Be Liquidated
- Hostess Creme Filling Recipe (Don't Panic!)
- Some Hostess Workers Feel 'Relief' at Losing Jobs (just wait)
- Like ABC, The Snobs at NPR Laugh At Shutdown of Hostess
- Will Twinkies be reborn through new Mexican ownership?
- Hostess Closure Means Locals Lose Jobs
- TSA Unionized -- Americans Screwed
- LAX Union Workers To Strike On Thanksgiving Eve
- Our Kids Are Doomed. Give Them a Twinkie (Stop worrying about the future, there is none)
- Maine's striking Hostess workers say company's collapse a strong message of union resolve
- (Post-Twinkie Apocalypse) A Guide to Making Your Own Twinkies
- Hostess: Done In By Diversity???
- Hostess workers say company's collapse a strong message of union resolve
- Twinkie Tribute
- The Twinkie, a Suicide (Unionside)
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posted on
11/22/2012 11:31:09 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: BenLurkin
Right to work and hire at will states are not all they are cracked up to be. Yes, we have jobs but the companies don’t care anything at all about the employees because they know they can treat them any way they want to treat them. I hate unions as much as anybody here but there needs to be a middle ground. TN has no labor laws except for the Federal laws. The company I work for is a major employer and we are forced to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week whether we are able to or not. I worked 168 hours in the last 15 days. I worked 12 hours a day for 7 days on first shift, got one day off and worked 7 nights for 12 hours a night. I’ve been there 36 years and have never been treated as badly as we are now. The major company that bought us recently is H*** to work for. They fire people over 50 for no reason just because they can. All of us over 50 are walking on eggshells all the time because by TN law they can hire and fire at will. I am 58 and have been a faithful employee for almost 36 years with a perfect work record but I can’t continue to work like this.
Be careful what you wish for.
To: Nachum
The unions are composed of greedy,arrogant, self serving, foolish democrats who care little for God or man and have trusted in the government to supply their needs. Brazen and godless and hateful of their fellow mans needs, they have destroyed themselves and even if the obamanation picks up the tag, the whole government will eventually crash.
Socialism is a hateful and hate filled disease of the heart and mind that brings war and famine and death to all people.
When Christ Jesus comes to defend Israel and set up His Kingdom of Heaven on the earth, all socialism will be destroyed and the King will be our government on the earth. This coming period is known in Scripture as the Kingdom of Heaven.
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posted on
11/23/2012 5:38:56 AM PST
by
kindred
(Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
To: elpadre
any investor would be a fool to buy Hostess - the unions make this an impossible buy.The investor is not bound by old union contracts. He can set up shop in a right to work state, or even offshore it, and resume pumping out twinkies without the expense and headache of dealing with unions.
Bankruptcy is a fresh start for a food that never goes stale.
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posted on
11/23/2012 5:45:53 AM PST
by
Sirius Lee
(RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
To: vette6387
Do any Freepers remember Eastern Airlines? The mechanics union drove them out of business.
Such are the laws in the US that even if a group of disgruntled union employees approached Hostess on their own with a new “union” they would not be sanctioned to do so, and as such Hostess could not talk with them (aside from the personal danger to the “scabs” from their thug former leaders/members to even try to do such a thing from mediation). In a normal real world— this type of thing would occur and the company could save their jobs. It is like there is a total I want it now mentality— and the hell with the future.
Admittedly, companies do not honor any loyalty— unless it is in their corporate philosophy to do so. And even then loyalty can be unrewarded by the hazards of business and failures. Speaking of really big businesses, they simply do not care, and the management training trains to this expectation behaviourally.
Please also keep in mind that the dems will NOT give up on card check, trying to create the same animus in small family companies with 200 or fewer employees. Thank deMAOcrats. They will never see it that way, what few dems like to think they are patriots, on their way to raw labor power, and continue to enable the Cloward Piven dismantling of our country and freedom.
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posted on
11/23/2012 1:39:01 PM PST
by
John S Mosby
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: sagar
Actually I do hope that, partially for the reason you stated but also to help hasten the inevitable economic collapse. I really do not care for either unions or 1%er types - in short, anyone with an entitlement mentality. Let the economy crash and burn.
We have foresaken God and our American roots. We deserve this, all of us to greater or lesser extent, as partakers in this system under this government elected by our friends, neighbors, and colleagues.
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posted on
11/23/2012 11:21:43 PM PST
by
Lexinom
To: Nachum
FROM THE ARTICLE:
Doug Mansky, a Hostess driver in Detroit and a member of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, was in the process of moving to a cheaper condominium on Tuesday, after his union had agreed to an 8% pay cut that he said would shave $200 a week from his income. After Judge Drain cleared Hostess to impose the same new labor terms on the bakers union, they went on strike.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
If $200 per week were shaved off his income, he was making $2500 per week = $130,000 per year. Most people will have little sympathy for him.
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posted on
11/25/2012 12:18:19 AM PST
by
doug from upland
(Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
To: Nachum
I have even heard a few morons stating there is no judge in bankruptcy court only a trustee. news to all the nation’s bankruptcy judges.
Also in Chapter 11, the debtor in posession, IS the trustee.
This is a chapter 7 and thus has a court appointed trustee.
This makes me thing the owners as “going galt”.
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posted on
11/26/2012 8:58:58 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: sagar
reminds me of the end of Fountainhead. The “union” boss wins the battle but the newspaper is shut down PERMANENTLY.
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posted on
11/26/2012 9:38:46 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: jboot
It isn't quite as good as my own handmade bread, but it is still pretty darn good for the money. LOL! You're a better baker than I, apparently. Mine always has a good flavor, but the fluffy texture always eludes me.
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posted on
11/27/2012 5:50:28 AM PST
by
MamaTexan
(In Propria Persona)
To: kvanbrunt2
It just arrived up here.
I have now eaten it once.
That was enough for this lifetime.
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posted on
11/27/2012 7:43:17 AM PST
by
gnarledmaw
(Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
To: kvanbrunt2
It just arrived up here.
I have now eaten it once.
That was enough for this lifetime.
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posted on
11/27/2012 7:43:17 AM PST
by
gnarledmaw
(Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
To: MamaTexan
Fluffiness requires a finer grind of flour than the “bread flour” that you can get in the store. I prefer rustic breads, so my loaves are not exactly fluffy. They aren’t heavy, though. The single biggest factor in getting a good rise is the yeast. The stuff they sell in packets at supermarkets is usually at the end of its rope. I get mine from a local Amish market.
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posted on
11/27/2012 7:57:55 AM PST
by
jboot
(This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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