Skip to comments.AFA publishes annual "naughty/nice" list--companies hostile to Christmas
Posted on 11/19/2012 11:08:47 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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Check out the list here:
Companies to AVOID:
Companies AGAINST “Christmas”
Barnes & Noble
All of these stores are owned by the same parent company
VS is owne dby Limited Brands
JC Penney wants you to have a very gay, gay, gay Christmas
I am so sick of this.
There are multiple holidays and the use of the phrase “Happy Holidays” is not necessarily anti-Christmas. On this particular issue I part company with the AFA. I think their stance on this issue is divisive and makes Christians look petty and ignorant.
Hannukah is a legitimate holiday that involves the giving of gifts too.
This Christian has no problem with “Happy Holidays”.
I demand that people wish me “Merry Christmas” instead of “Happy Holidays” while I’m busy wasting money subverting the true meaning of the holiday!!! (/sarc)
I too do not have a problem with Happy Holidays --- I believe it was derived from Happy Holy Days, but I could be wrong.
What I have a problem with really is when they are 100% against Christmas, or Hannukah, etc. And want to have whatever they want at the expense of what I want. That is what irks me.
I have Jewish friends that wish me a Merry Christmas and I will them a Happy Hannukah. I could easily wish them Happy Holidays as their holiday is a Holy Day for them.
Agreed. This Christian has no problems with wishing folks happy holidays. I am reluctant myself to wish folks a Merry Christmas if I don’t know that they celebrate. Saying “Happy Holidays” is not anti-Christmas or anti-Christian. I do wish everybody in this country and the world did celebrate Christmas.
where else to get the gay apparel? (badoom tish)
Yes, the word "holiday" is derived from "Holy Day" from medieval times.
We were in Target a few weeks ago, and as we walked into the store, I noticed a big Merry Christmas garland hung from the ceiling. It is no ordinary Merry Christmas! It is RAINBOW colored. And I was there again yesterday, and I looked toward the back of the store where the Christmas decorations are located. The Christmas tree displays are RAINBOW decorated.
lol. good one
Well, then have yourself a FABULOUS little Christmas!
However, a few years ago it did seem like many companies were going out of their way to erase "Christmas" where it had before been used.
I haven't noticed that as much lately.
I believe it!
put them on the naughty list too!
some guy named Don.
I’m with a lot of other posters here; “Happy Holidays” is hardly an evil worthy of damnation and boycott. After all, there ARE several holidays this time of year and it makes sense.
I DO have a problem with the true Christmas-haters that will use the time of year to advance their own anti-American, anti-God agendas. If you are business that hates my Christian faith, then I will not feel particularly “merry” about shopping at your store.
As a sun belt dweller I’ve never really understood the whole thing. Nobody ever gives any form of holiday greeting here until the actual day, because our “winter” weather makes it tough to remember it’s the holiday season. Really, it’s gonna be 80 on Thanksgiving, and with a little luck will stay like that through the rest of the year. Who can remember to say “merry Christmas” in t-shirt weather?
Are we really getting mad at office supply stores for not being Christmasy enough? The whole “war on Christmas” thing started off silly and have devolved to moronic. Really, you guys need to stop nailing yourselves to crosses, you’re trying way too hard to insist you’re persecuted. On the one hand you complain the holiday is over commercialized, and then you whine when companies don’t have Christmas mentioned enough in their displays. You have mutually exclusive goals, pick one. Better yet, pick neither.
Between a rock and a hard place... wasn’t it not all that long ago that the commercialization of Christmas was lamented by the devout crowd? Now, we consider that a lesser evil than being “sensitive” to non-Christians (who almost all in practice actually could not care less about Christmas trees, Christmas dinners, and the like, and were not at all bugged by them).
What?! No Christmassy tee shirts, bathing trunks, flip flops? Oh the huge manatee.
Maybe that’s how they celebrate it in Australia where it’s summer then.
How about a list of those involved in the war on Thanksgiving. You would think that retailers could pause for a mere 24 hours each year to allow us to be thankful for what we have before we set out to accumulate more.
Their signs isn’t the problem, some of these corporations have an anti-family/Christian agenda all year long.
hear, hear! i am with you on this... i don't really expect anyone to wish me a Merry Christmas on any day other than Christmas day... i like Happy Holidays... it fits with this season of several holidays... i also like Season's Greetings...
however, i absolutely do not accept holiday tree--it is Christmas tree... on the other hand, i am not at all offended by "Xmas" because i know the meaning of the symbol "X"... call me another Xian who has no problem with "Happy Holidays."
Many Jews have no problem with "Merry Christmas" in a country that is/was predominately Christian.
This reminds of a story about a man who opens a door to a building and stands aside to allow a lady to pass.
She looks at him and says, "You don't have to open the door for me because I'm a woman."
The man replies, "I don't open the door for you because you're a lady. I do it because I am a gentleman."
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Christian wishing anyone a Merry Christmas. It identifies you as a Christian and since we are commanded in Matthew 5:16 to let our light shine to glorify our Father in heaven, go ahead.
Let your light shine. Merry Christmas.
It's the Christmas season. It's our culture. We exist, too, and the brainwashing involved in getting folks to think "Happy Holidays" is, imho, an "anti-Christian culture" initiative.
From Advent (anticipating the coming of the Lord) through Christmas (celebrating the coming of the Lord) is, given the year, in the neighborhood of 40 days long. It is always the 4 Sundays preceding Christmas and the 12 days of Christmas. It's been that way throughout our Christian culture for centuries.
Hannukah is an 8 days celebration based on a lunar calendar that could go from late November to early December. This year it's from the 8th-15th of December.
Is it the basis of all these traditions you see in our culture? Does it inform Santa Claus (St Nicholas), mangers, wise men, in any way whatsoever? No. It does not.
This cultural celebration is about Christmas. The traditions are founded in Christianity and the Christmas story.
Refusing to permit employees to say Merry Christmas, to have "holiday trees", holiday lights, holiday cards, and on an on is pure opposition to our Christian culture and an unwillingness to acknowledge our presence, all of which is part of a brain-washing program.
I think it is their version of making the Yuletide gay.
yeah isn’t there another song about that? (making the yuletide gay)
The balance of my existing Banana store card was $00.00. Clerk asked me if I wanted it reactivated(?). I said sure and, voila, a Visa card showed up in the mail a few weeks later. They cancelled the card but are still billing me for late charges over the purchases I made that day.
Most of their stuff sucks anyway.
This season of Christmas has been celebrated as such since this nation was founded. Now, this growing secular nation wants nothing to do with “Christ” in anything. Yes, this is a concerted attempt to remove him completely from our lives. It will NOT happen at our house. All the Christmas songs sung by secular artists had no problem with Christmas. I will NEVER refer to it as the “holidays”. It is a denial of our remembrance of the Christ child who came into the world, lived a sinless life, and died on a cross for the sins of the world. That fact is not a popular one in today’s secular culture but it’s still true and though the world wants to deny him, one day every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD.
It was supposedly to make shops more inviting to people from cultures that don’t commonly celebrate Christmas.
I find it hard to be doctrinaire or dogmatic. Even those who ask clerks to keep “Merry Christmas” greetings to people they are pretty sure will appreciate it, can still have very obvious Christmas displays and pipe carols over their PA systems. A little common sense will go a long way.
There certainly was an American Christian contingent who felt the modern celebration of the Nativity to be too reminiscent of idolatry — and that was the glory of the religious freedom of the country, that they were perfectly welcome to refrain from things Christmas.
Cultures in America that don’t know Christmas is part of the larger American culture are extremely rare. I’d argue they’re non-existent. It’s like going to Germany and telling them to knock off the Christmas markets, there are Turks around.
Actually a lot of the traditions are from pagan cultures. You ever wonder why the tree chosen to celebrate a birth in the mid-east is a pine? Ever wonder what Yule is and why it has a log?
The simple fact of the matter is there’s good reasons to call it “the holiday season”, in between this Thursday and the Tuesday seven weeks from now there’s a whole bunch of holidays from multiple religions and secular life.
Even the gift buying, depending on who you know could have nothing to do with Christianity. Most of the folks on my shopping list are Jews and atheists. The only regular church goer on my list is the mother-in-law, and she’s not really even on my list, the wife shops for her. The wife and I like to decorate, but the decorations are geared towards pretty light, with a lot of pepper themes because we’re in the southwest and like peppers both in our belly and on your walls and fence. I buy holiday lights and send out holiday cards, I don’t do the tree thing though, holiday or otherwise.
Nobody is failing to acknowledge your presence. But maybe you should be acknowledging the presence of others. The percentage of folks who do Christmas the way you do is pretty small, you share the next 6 weeks with millions of people who don’t advent, and don’t really Christmas.
They may know but it still may not be gainful to virtually parrot “Merry Christmas” to them. I wouldn’t order my clerks to do that to a clientele of Lubavitcher Jews, for instance; they well know what Christmas is but the wish is utterly wasted.
At the moment, I’m more annoyed with companies that do harm to Thanksgiving by polluting a Christian holiday with greedy ads and sales.
It’s pine because it’s evergreen, and it goes back to 15th-16th century Christian Europe. The first tree with lights was by Martin Luther.
And the incidence of followers of Odin is a bit on the low side these days.
When they step forward in vast numbers, I’ll loan them a log. In the meantime, I’ll consign them to Marvel comics.
These lists always get murky because there are plenty of stores on the “pro Christmas” list that are still “off limits” to Freepers due to politics, Costco for example.
Never mind that He was probably conceived on Hannukah and born in September during the Feast of Tabernacles.
Christmas is a made-up holiday, which I love to celebrate. But I would rather we live it all year long rather than expecting a secular world the pretend to be pious a couple of weeks in December.
Can’t hardly get around these days without running into Lubavitcher Jews. Everywhere. Just everywhere. Can’t throw a rock without hitting one.
They’ll probably riot, what with their great numbers and notorious reputation as vandals, and cause Eric Holder finally to support Israel...at least at Christmas time.
You got it part right. What you missed is that the pine was used in pagan winter solstice festivals before Christianity got within a thousand miles of the place, hundreds of years earlier.
Actually I know a Loki worshiper. I don’t know if she puts of a tree. One of my Jewish friends likes to put up a tree, all white and blue lights.
The fact of the matter is the primary symbols of Christian celebration of Christmas are mostly borrowed, and are still shared. They really ARE holiday trees, whether you’re willing to admit it or not.
For what it’s worth, every holiday is a made up holiday. Made up by someone.
And celebrating the incarnation/birth of Christ flows from the nativity accounts in Matthew & Luke, and the incarnation account in John.
Pine is used everywhere, everyplace.
It makes as much sense to consign pine to a particular group as to consign the use of a building to a particular group.
Priests were using cedar in the time of Moses, ca1400; David,ca1000 was using evergreen in the Temple
Isaiah said, in about 700 BC, “Isaiah 60:13 “The glory of Lebanon will come to you, the pine, the fir and the cypress together, to adorn the place of my sanctuary; and I will glorify the place of my feet.”
That’s written history.
I don't blame the companies entirely. It's the majority of the population (including many on this thread) that demands the birth of Christ be celebrated via the exchange of plastic crap from China.
Yeah, tells me all I need to know about this list.
Yeah, NOW the pine is used all over the place. But it wasn’t part of the Christian celebration of anything until the 16th century.
Now you’re on track, consigning the pine to a particular group, like Christians, doesn’t make sense.
Nice written history, and what’s it have to do with Jesus’ birthday? Oh yeah, nothing. At least until the 17th century when a bunch of central European Christians decided they looked nice all decorated for those pagan holidays and why not use it for the Christian holiday.
I spend my Christmas money on Christmas presents to give to people at Christmas and if some can;t say that then they don;t take my money.
I see all the time Hannukah mentioned, I see other holidays mentioned.
Christmas is a federal holiday, if one wants ot be a gringe then so be it but they do not get my money.
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