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MSNBC host tells Israeli amb. Hamas rockets 'rarely do damage'"response...is disproportional"
KFYI Radio ^ | November 19, 2012 | Sharona Schwartz

Posted on 11/19/2012 10:23:05 AM PST by Ooh-Ah

The host then suggested that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a "failure"

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() Beyond its military operation targeting the Hamas terrorist infrastructure in Gaza, Israel is invested in an intense media campaign to make sure its side of the story is being heard overseas. But that’s not always easy to do.

In an interview with Israel’s top envoy to the United States on Saturday, MSNBC provided yet another example of how much work Israeli officials face in their effort to pass through the filter of the mainstream media and present their side of the story.

MSNBC’s Mara Schiavocampo began her interview of Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren straightforwardly enough, asking “What would be the trigger for a ground operation? What’s the red line here?”

Oren answered, “You have the equivalent of what would be about 170 million Americans under bomb shelters. If Hamas continues to escalate we will take the necessary and legitimate measures to defend our citizens.”

Schiavocampo’s second question might be considered more controversial, positing the argument that long-range rockets carrying warheads weighing between 20 and 90 kilograms — 46 to 198 pounds — aren’t actually dangerous to human life. She asked:

“Living under the threat of rocket attack is certainly a psychological trauma. But what would you say to those who argue that the rockets are essentially very ineffective, they rarely do damage and that the response from Israelis is disproportional to the threat they’re under.”

Oren answered she might want to pose that question to the three Israelis killed by a rocket in Kiryat Malachi on Thursday (see TheBlaze’s story here and Glenn Beck’s segment looking at media bias and profiling the victims here). Oren suggested Schiavocampo envisage what would happen if Hamas were bombing America. He said:

“Imagine if one rocket had fallen in the United States and not now since the year 2009, our last operation, we’ve had something in the vicinity of 8,000 rockets fall on the State of Israel. That’s more than twice all of the German rockets that fell on London during World War II. And you saw how the British and Americans reacted to that.”

Schiavocampo then posited that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a “failure.” By way of comparison, she did not attribute the increase in attacks to other possibilities including: Hamas feeling more emboldened since its ideological ally, the Muslim Brotherhood, took control of next-door Egypt or that its ties have only grown stronger with Iran, which provides its long-range Fajr-5 missiles. She asked Oren:

“You mentioned the amount of rocket attacks that have been seen in Israel. In 2009 that number was about 200 and this year it’s been about 700 despite the fact that we’ve been down this road again that Israel has responded with military force in the past. So does this show that Israel ‘s policy towards Gaza has been a failure?”

Oren said that after 12,000 rocket attacks in the past 12 years on Israeli civilians, “We have no option and nor would any other country in the world have an option but to defend our citizens by all necessary and legitimate means.”

Watch the MSNBC interview with Michael Oren here:

http://politics.kfyi.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=104707&article=10583924

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; ignorantmedia; israel; leftwingnewswhore; msnbc; schiavocampo
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1 posted on 11/19/2012 10:23:17 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

The simple answer to this question is “So, if I understand you correctly, you’d be much happier if Jews were being killed, right? Would that fulfill your sense of fairness?”


2 posted on 11/19/2012 10:25:03 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Sometimes words just escape me. Who is this imbicile? Would she like it if we began pelting here studio with rockets? Would she not worry? I bet she would be the first to hit the silk.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 10:26:33 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Perhaps we can get Mara to stand out in a football field while we launch a few RPGs at her liberal ass.

I hope Israel destroys the new Palestine and whoever is stupid enough to help them. Nuke them from Orbit...it’s the only way to be sure.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 10:26:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ooh-Ah

The fact that this filthy, vile network is allowed to broadcast daily in the United States shows how far down the rat-hole we have fallen.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 10:28:11 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Ooh-Ah

These cretins are totally shameless


6 posted on 11/19/2012 10:29:37 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ooh-Ah

“Since the life of one Son of the Prophet is worth that of a thousand pigs and monkeys, the damage is quite disproportional.” /not quite sarc


7 posted on 11/19/2012 10:34:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ooh-Ah

OMG- I can just hear her little brain at work: “but they are only such tiny little bombs they shoot at you, and you are so mean to fight back at them...”


8 posted on 11/19/2012 10:35:35 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Ooh-Ah
MSNBC host tells Israeli amb. Hamas rockets 'rarely do damage'"response...is disproportional"


9 posted on 11/19/2012 10:36:00 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

So, can we send a few over to HIS house?


10 posted on 11/19/2012 10:37:42 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hey I have an idea, someone should throw a bunch of rockets on this lady’s house and see how she likes it


11 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:01 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Ooh-Ah

In any fight, the one who punch’s hardest is usually the winner.

Only a fool or Hamas would start a fight with a bigger opponent.

Are the attacks disproportional? Maybe they are, but obviously Hamas enjoys being hit, since all they have to do to stop it is stop sending rockets into Israel.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:19 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Ooh-Ah
Does Hamas deserve a break because their murderous intentions are being thwarted by poor aim and Iron Dome batteries?

13 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:36 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
"...not proportional..."

I thought the idea of war was to WIN, not to provide fairness for the media's sensitivities.

14 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:37 AM PST by alancarp (Democrats can't win on merits, so it's okay to cheat, steal, lie, break the law to "win" elections.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Let’s see, some animals killed 3,000 people, destroyed 2 buildings and damaged another.

Was our destruction of 2 of the countries that supported and sponsored these terrorists, also excessive?


15 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:53 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Since she thinks thousands of Muslim terrorist rockets don’t do any harm, perhaps she’d like to volunteer HER house as their new target?


16 posted on 11/19/2012 10:39:58 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Ooh-Ah
"response...is disproportional"

Hey...that's the Chicago way. Obama oughta like it.

"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way!"

17 posted on 11/19/2012 10:40:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Ooh-Ah

sounds like we just got a volunteer to be “embedded”...


18 posted on 11/19/2012 10:41:04 AM PST by bigbob
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To: SJackson; justiceseeker93; Nachum

PING!!!!!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 11/19/2012 10:43:01 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

SMH

The sheer cluelessness (intentional or otherwise) of these “journalists” confounds me. Do they not understand the point of these rocket attacks is to terrorize?

Hitler’s V-1’s and to an extent, the V-2’s, had little real strategic ability on Britain’s ability to produce armaments or field troops. Nor did the conventional-warhead SCUDs fired by Saddam Hussein have the capability to defeat coalition forces in Desert Shield/Storm. Yet both tyrants launched endless waves of them, because they were intended to terrify and demoralize. Your own citizens living in fear, never knowing when they might have to dash to a shelter, or knowing if they’re going to make it to safety in time (and not every does) is more than enough provocation, I’d say.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 10:43:01 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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