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Petraeus Says U.S. Tried to Avoid Tipping Off Terrorists After Libya Attack (Not satire)
New York Times ^ | November 16, 2012 | By ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 11/16/2012 11:12:38 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

WASHINGTON — David H. Petraeus, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers on Friday that classified intelligence reports revealed that the deadly assault on the American diplomatic mission in Libya was a terrorist attack, but that the administration refrained from saying it suspected that the perpetrators of the attack were Al Qaeda affiliates and sympathizers to avoid tipping off the groups.

Mr. Petraeus, who resigned last week after admitting to an extramarital affair, said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoid alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them, lawmakers said. . .

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This must be the new strategy for fighting terrorists. Don't say their name. One of the radical groups mentioned in the story bragged on its website that night about attacking the consulate.
1 posted on 11/16/2012 11:12:44 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They

a) gave his wife a $187,000 a year job

and

b) are holding potential charges over his head

and

c) are holding potential charges over his mistress’ head

So........................


2 posted on 11/16/2012 11:16:47 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Demonic-rats are circling obama’s wagon, including Feinstein.

His admin disputed the notion that politics or other motives caused the changes in Rice’s script.

LIARS ALL.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 11:19:55 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: F15Eagle
[b) are holding potential charges over his head]

As soon as the FBI said Petraeus hadn't broken any laws the CIA announced they were investigating him.

4 posted on 11/16/2012 11:21:38 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Oh I get it! We’re playing the “we’re stupid card” . Gets them everytime.


5 posted on 11/16/2012 11:23:09 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Maybe after the original 9/11 we should’ve pretended the towers were brought down by windshear. Better yet, that they’re still standing. If you don’t point to empty space and say, “Gosh, the twins look beautiful today,” the terrorists win.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 11:26:15 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Right. . .we don’t want to tip off the terrorists in case they may have forgotten they attacked us. ..we don’t want to remind them. . ..this is exactly how Bush should have handled his 911. . .darn!


7 posted on 11/16/2012 11:27:05 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Ernest_at_the_Beach; onyx; TigersEye
Thanks Brad for the post. Interesting things are coming out.
I'm going to hold my tongue until this info becomes a little better researched.

Pinging a few folks for their reference. Please do not feel obligated to respond. Of what weight it will bear, should it be shown to be factual, I'll let for us all to determine, as well as both sides of Congress.
BUT. IMHO. It's Bull Shit. Or the good general doen't have a a tenth of the brains I thought he might actually possess.

I cannot help but wonder how say General George S. Patton would have dealt with such a stupid statement.
I'll leave you all in peace. Brad. I'm signing off for the morning. Do have a great upcoming day.

Whoops! I guess I did not hold me tongue. :)
8 posted on 11/16/2012 11:35:20 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Notice how the questions asked of Petraeus and other information from the White House, all divert away from Rep. King’s question of who changed the original intelligence information from “Al Qaeda” to “terrorists”.

If it wasn’t the CIA (says Petraeus), was it SecyDefense Panetta; National Intelligence Director (now that’s an oxymoron moron if ever there was one) Clapper (I think he’s a complete fool); the head of the National Security Council whoever that is; Obama’s Intelligence Czar Brennan (I think he’s another loser); Intelligence/Foreign Affairs Advisor Donilon (whoever he is); the VP/President, etc?

US Ambassador to the UN should be fired for being so stupid as to tell the lies she did on television. They “say” she was reading from “unclassified intelligence talking points”.

The only “points” were the ones on her head for believing this bullshit. SHe should be fired for sheer stupidity as well as covering up the Benghazi attack by lying to the American people and the whole world. And she is one of Obama’s “best and brightest”? More like “worst, dimmest and stupidest” if you ask me.

This whole affair has more coverups than a Mafia cemetary.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 11:37:03 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Brad from Tennessee
This should be a BIG relief for someONE!


10 posted on 11/16/2012 11:37:42 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
but that the administration refrained from saying it suspected that the perpetrators of the attack were Al Qaeda affiliates and sympathizers to avoid tipping off the groups.

Lock all these stupid bastards up and bring in some 10 year olds to run the damn country, we would be better off!

11 posted on 11/16/2012 11:38:59 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It would be funny if we had not lost four Americans and if there weren’t other Americans who were severely wounded. What shrink came up with this notion that terrorists will not strike again if you pretend they do not exist? Have these people ever had children?

Never mind that the Arab world was privy to video of the crazy video protesters scaling the hole in the wall at the consulate/mission and later walking through the gate that was not guarded because the cowardly guards wet themselves and ran when the video protesters showed up with weapons and started torching the place. Uh huh. Real smart to pretend there was no terrorist attack. It looked so much better to spread the story about a video unknown to the entire world.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 11:49:19 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Gee Wally. Would have been too obvious if they wore Al Qeda emblems on their clothes and claimed responsability right after the attack.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 12:12:56 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Brad from Tennessee
So they allowed a slew of sensitive data to fall into terrorists' hands. They failed to send in the FBI for weeks. They allowed CNN to find the Ambassador's diary, including his grave concerns about AQ. They misled Congress, the families of the murdered Americans, and the public. They allowed Tunisia to hold a key suspect so the FBI could not interrogate him (till after the election).

All this to allow AQ time to scatter fhroughout North African canyons and deserts, so they can stealthily sneak up on them like Wile E. Coyote on the Roadrunner. What a diabolically clever plan. That makes sense to the average idiot, sure.

14 posted on 11/17/2012 12:16:19 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Looks like the real reason Petraeus was fired - I mean resigned was over his unwillingness to go along with all the lies of this government.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 12:19:25 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Oh please, what idiots will fall for this one...oh wait...never mind.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 12:29:36 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

>> the groups

Al Groupé?


17 posted on 11/17/2012 12:59:59 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: F15Eagle

Petraeus was given a list of how he was to be ousted... when who knows.. but he selected affair... now he is repeating the focus group tested BS he was instructed to say... By saying the name of a terrorist group it would tip them off.....steaming huge piles of BS. Anyone who believes that crap needs to go back in and have their lobotomy “fixed”. So, when a terrorist group admits to committing an act... say it’s a video...Yea... Dats Da ticket!


18 posted on 11/17/2012 1:08:49 AM PST by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: Fully Awake DAV
WHERE and WHO are the 20-30 people that were RESCUED that night and flown out of the country??????

WHERE are the HEROES to come out and TELL THE TRUTH about what happened that night??

WHY was AMb. Stevens there on 9-11 with NO SECURITY??? WHY did Sean Smith think they would die that night??

Were they running WEAPONS???

19 posted on 11/17/2012 1:17:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"Mr. Petraeus, who resigned last week after admitting to an extramarital affair, said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoid alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them, lawmakers said. . ."

Good God, even that bit of flood-the-zone agitprop isn't on script. It was the Rahman Brigades, the Blind Sheik weenies...

"al-Zawahiri wanted revenge for al-Libi -- and remember al-Libi was a terrorist who specialized in attacking embassies! -- and so they get the "Rahman Brigades" to do it as almost a cut-out, instead of AQSL->LIFG, who you would have expected as the first stringers if it had been a Turk-related arms deal gone bad." -- Me

20 posted on 11/17/2012 1:24:07 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Ann Archy

The would-be HEROES have probably been told their families would be taken on helicopter rides down narrow mountain passages in Afghanistan in broad daylight.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 1:25:00 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
"And she is one of Obama’s “best and brightest”? More like “worst, dhimmest and stupidest” if you ask me."

Fixed.

22 posted on 11/17/2012 1:25:23 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Now we can’t say their name... like Voldemort! I mean.. you-know-who


23 posted on 11/17/2012 1:25:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Still waiting for the bombs to fall in Libya in retaliation.. 0bama didn’t have any problem doing that when it came to helping the terrorists who killed us take control.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 1:28:39 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

COWARDS!! They could go to Media person!!


25 posted on 11/17/2012 1:33:31 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Fully Awake DAV

“now he is repeating the focus group tested BS he was instructed to say”

Yes, it’s a huge scandal. They’re so busy trying to cover all the bases it could blow up in their faces. They’re having a hard time holding all the lies together and being called on them.

They must be concerned about Bammy getting impeached along with several working for him.

Petraeus cannot be considered a reliable source at this point.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 1:35:33 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Mr. Petraeus, who resigned last week after admitting to an extramarital affair, said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoid alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them, lawmakers said...

Ah, the wonders of closed hearings. The politicians can question witneses and we still won't know what the real testimony is, because we are notdirectly privy to it, but are subject instead to only hear from politicians of all sides claim they heard this or that. The New York Times really had to twist that that load of bullspit to make it sound like it came directly from Petraeus himself- if you don't read it through you miss the "lawmakers said" part.

It should read : Lawmakers said Mr. Petraeus said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoid alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them...

It's still idiotic and illogical to claim references to AQIM and Ansar al Sharia were removed to avoid alerting the "militants" [terrorists] that we were on their trail when it took weeks to get investigators to the site and WHEN ANSAR AL SHARIAH TOOK PUBLIC CREDIT FOR THE ATTACK the SAME DAY!

The problem we had in Benghazi is clear enough in this article, where our media and lawmakers seem to have trouble labeling terrorists, "terrorists" and instead try to choose politically correct terms such as the generic "militant" to decribe jihadists.

27 posted on 11/17/2012 1:41:42 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This government’s unbelievable. There’s more spin going on than we’d see at a playground full of kids hyped up on jolt cola.


28 posted on 11/17/2012 1:45:30 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: rfp1234

I think that key suspect’s now dead.


29 posted on 11/17/2012 1:57:27 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

And to question the administration’s lies would be uncivil, racist, sexist,
islamophobic, and bovinofecalophobic.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 2:02:43 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

MARCH 2008 : (ANALYSIS CORP CEO JOHN BRENNAN, OBAMA’s OWN CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT AND FORMER CIA OFFICIAL IS ACCUSED OF SNOOPING THE PASSPORT FILES OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ... AN EVENT OBAMA USES TO HIS POLITICAL ADVANTAGE) WASHINGTON (CNN) — The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday. John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said. Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month. The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center. He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January. -———Chief of firm involved in breach is Obama adviser ( Passport Breaches By Obama Advisers Company) http://www.cnn.com ^ | 3-22-08 | Kate Bolduan ; Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:27:36 PM · by NoLibZone : http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/index.html


31 posted on 11/17/2012 2:04:08 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: rfp1234

...and mean!


32 posted on 11/17/2012 2:07:56 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This still does not answer WHY there was no help for the doomed four sometime in their last 7 hours. Obfuscation, obfuscation, obfuscation( to paraphrase Fr. Mulcahey).


33 posted on 11/17/2012 2:35:21 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: rfp1234
I can see the conversation now in some hovel in Lybia. “Ahmed did we remember to attack the American Embassy in Libya?”. “Husein, I really can't remember, I know it was on our to do list on Sept 11”. “Here I have the list for you” “ No idiot that is your wife's shopping list and you must rake the sand” “Damn, my honey do list” “I know let's watch the news” “ Ah you fools, some demonsrtators attacked the Embassy, we are to late” “No, NO, Ahmed we did attack attack it , I remember now, but the Americans don't know we attacked it” “ Well we always knew the Americans were dumb, but for a smart guy that General isn't to smart” I am sure the terrorist were fooled!
34 posted on 11/17/2012 3:07:25 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

We had to lie to you, FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!


35 posted on 11/17/2012 3:09:01 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The true Teflon President


36 posted on 11/17/2012 3:27:59 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This was the same way they handled the OBL raid. No operational details were ever released or even hinted at. In fact, for the longest time, it was thought the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had conducted the raid by direction of Kookla, Fran and Ollie.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 3:43:21 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Face it, Petraeus is a completely unprincipled suck up and he’s still sucking up to Obama.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 3:52:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If true, the MSM and the DNC moderator of the “debate”
ARE involved in treason, up close and personal.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 3:55:38 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This must be the new Obama strategy in handling threats to America. I believe it’s called Operation Head-in-Sand.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 3:55:42 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Or how about my question: Why didn’t our intelligence see this one coming?


41 posted on 11/17/2012 3:58:02 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This is a NY Times article that fits the Obumass’s feces.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 3:58:12 AM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: autumnraine

Those in authority have been using that forever. And, it has nothing to do with our good, it’s all about THEIR good, as in continuing in power.


43 posted on 11/17/2012 4:00:45 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The irony is that the only government official who WAS telling the truth about Al Queda in Libya was Mohammar Qaddaffi. But then as Hillary puts it, “We came, we saw, he died”. Further irony is in the fact that the murdered ambassador was part and parcel of that sloppy overthrow.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 4:00:54 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Can’t have the groups claiming responsibility armed with the knowledge that we suspect them of doing it...Brilliant!


45 posted on 11/17/2012 4:02:59 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Ah, yes, the old “Let’s make enemy-caused disasters Top Secret - we wouldn’t want the enemy to know what they are doing!” Same thing FDR did with the facts of the U-boat decimation of our shipping upon our entry into WWII. The number of enemy submarines we sunk during the first nine months after Pearl Harbor was classified. Not that Hitler didn’t know the number of his own boats returning to port, of course - it was classified because FDR didn’t want to admit that the number was zero!
FDR wasn’t too keen on publicizing the number of ships Hitler had sunk, either - that was not zero. I read the number, and was fascinated by it, and rechecked it once by getting the book and checking it. But I still can’t cite the number with confidence, because it was so high that I found it extremely difficult to believe. I want to say 700 ships. Seven. Hundred. Ships. We’re talking more than two and a half per day!
Of course we wouldn’t want that to get out! Good thing that Hitler didn't have that information! He might have decorated his submarine commanders or something! </sarcasm>

46 posted on 11/17/2012 4:08:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

No, they did not want to tip off the electorate.
“Bin Laden is dead and al Qaeda is on the run.”


47 posted on 11/17/2012 4:08:06 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“This must be the new strategy for fighting terrorists”

It’s what the MSM does every day, it does not specify race in inter-racial crimes, unless they are “hate crimes” against protected classes.....and we all know how well that has mitigated black on white assaults and murders.


48 posted on 11/17/2012 4:08:06 AM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: autumnraine

“We had to lie to you, FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!”

Great post!


49 posted on 11/17/2012 4:09:17 AM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
The latest excuse is as bad as every other excuse and I am really, really sick of excuses.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

50 posted on 11/17/2012 4:11:18 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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