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Gun owners enter the fight of our lives
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/15/2012 | Chris Cox

Posted on 11/15/2012 11:56:37 AM PST by neverdem

The NRA has been saying all along that Barack Obama would unleash an assault on our Second Amendment freedoms if he won a second term. It sure didn’t take long for him to prove us right.

Just hours after Obama won re-election last Tuesday, his administration endorsed a new effort by the global gun grabbers at the United Nations to draft a gun ban treaty early next year. The official starting point for the new talks is last year’s failed draft, which contains provisions that threaten our sovereign right to keep and bear arms through an international gun registration scheme.

And not long after Obama floated the idea of banning semi-automatic firearms, we learned that California Senator Dianne Feinstein was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to draft new legislation that would ban semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns, so-called “high capacity” magazines, and rifles and shotguns with pistol grips. Reportedly, Feinstein wants to make it illegal not just to sell your guns and magazines, but to leave them behind in your will.

Not surprisingly, the lights had hardly gone out at Obama’s victory celebration last week when gun-hating New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, along with his pollster, Frank Luntz, were conducting push polls to promote government control over every firearm transfer — including between fathers and sons, and grandfathers and grandsons.

In Bloomberg’s world, a child wouldn’t be able to tear the wrapping paper off his first .22 rifle on Christmas morning unless Santa Claus had first cleared it with Obama’s bureaucrats.

I know a lot of folks are still down about last week’s presidential election. It’s puzzling how so many Americans can tell pollsters that the country is on the wrong track, then vote to keep the same guy driving the train.

But this isn’t the first time in history when gun owners and NRA members have faced a difficult challenge, and it won’t be the first time we’ve risen to the occasion and come out victorious. The Second Amendment wouldn’t be alive today if it wasn’t for the courage of tens of millions of gun owners and freedom-loving Americans across our nation, and throughout our history.

As long as dedicated patriots continue to band together and fight as though freedom itself is on the line — because it is — we will defend the Second Amendment in Obama’s second term and save it for generations to come.

For gun owners, the next four years won’t just be the fight of our lives, it will be a fight for the future of our nation. We’re ready to lead the charge.

Chris W. Cox is the Executive Director of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) and serves as the organization’s chief lobbyist.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; bloodoftyrants; democrats; donttreadonme; obama; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 11/15/2012 11:56:42 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Obama, Romney, they’re both the same. Romney would have done this.


2 posted on 11/15/2012 11:58:09 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: neverdem

After checking our bank account, I believe we have enough to stop by for another case of ammo on the way home...


3 posted on 11/15/2012 12:09:24 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: neverdem
Dianne Feinstein was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives

DOA in the House.

his administration endorsed a new effort by the global gun grabbers at the United Nations to draft a gun ban treaty early next year.

DOA.

4 posted on 11/15/2012 12:10:46 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: neverdem
Dianne Feinstein was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives

DOA in the House.

his administration endorsed a new effort by the global gun grabbers at the United Nations to draft a gun ban treaty early next year.

DOA.

5 posted on 11/15/2012 12:11:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: neverdem

Does the NRA still support Harry Reid ?


6 posted on 11/15/2012 12:12:47 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: neverdem
Ya know, the thing that pisses me off, and why I dropped the NRA, is that their superPAC will donate to the election/re-election of any Democrat who convinces them they're pro-gun.
After which election, said democrat will vote in lockstep with Obama on every issue.

The NRA needs to step back and see the forest, and delete any and every "D" from their contribution rolls.

7 posted on 11/15/2012 12:13:38 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: neverdem
And not long after Obama floated the idea of banning semi-automatic firearms, we learned that California Senator Dianne Feinstein was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to draft new legislation that would ban semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns, so-called “high capacity” magazines, and rifles and shotguns with pistol grips. Reportedly, Feinstein wants to make it illegal not just to sell your guns and magazines, but to leave them behind in your will.

It will be interesting to see how NRA A+ rated, NRA endorsed demonicRat Senator from West Virginia Joe "Rat-Bastard" Manchin will respond to this legislation.

The NRA has very little credibility.

8 posted on 11/15/2012 12:14:26 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem

Voters have unleashed a new beast on the political landscape. An America-hating radical activist ideologue that will not be held accountable by the media and is not accountable to the electorate. The tree of liberty is dying of thirst.


9 posted on 11/15/2012 12:15:10 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Steel

Dianne Feinstein was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
“DOA in the House.”

Then he will do it by Executive order. Who’s going to stop him? The attorney general? The Supreme Court (who he will likely be able to stack with 2 more Marxists)?


10 posted on 11/15/2012 12:21:07 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: brownsfan

“Obama, Romney, they’re both the same. Romney would have done this”.

You have just made things extremely difficult for me to treat you with any degree of respect, by the nature of your comment, which IMHO is the most blatantly stupid statement I have EVER seen on FreeRepublic


11 posted on 11/15/2012 12:21:15 PM PST by wita
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“Voter fraud has unleashed a new beast on the political landscape”

Fixed that for ya.


12 posted on 11/15/2012 12:22:06 PM PST by Salamander (I must be dreaming....please stop screaming.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Illegal and it would be ignored by the vast majority.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 12:22:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: neverdem
Gun owners enter the fight of our lives

Luckily we're well armed...;)

14 posted on 11/15/2012 12:22:34 PM PST by apillar
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To: ArrogantBustard

“The NRA has very little credibility.”

The NRA is the only reason that we can own anything more powerful than a pellet gun.


15 posted on 11/15/2012 12:23:57 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: neverdem

This will make a second American civil war likely.


16 posted on 11/15/2012 12:24:43 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Red Steel

Treaties go through the Senate. They have nothing to do with the House.


17 posted on 11/15/2012 12:26:33 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: wita

“You have just made things extremely difficult for me to treat you with any degree of respect, by the nature of your comment, which IMHO is the most blatantly stupid statement I have EVER seen on FreeRepublic”

I have to take you at your word, however, if you are a frequent reader of FR, I am suspicious of the accuracy of your statement.

Also, that’s sarcasm I posted. HEAVY sarcasm.


18 posted on 11/15/2012 12:26:59 PM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

I said it was DOA and left it at that, and I did not say the UN treaty would go through the House. I said Feinstein’s gun grab legislation would go through the House where it is DOA.


19 posted on 11/15/2012 12:29:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: apillar

I said back the day the “Brady Bill” passed that I would ignore it and all future gun laws. Since then I’ve “opted out” of the background check process, every gun I purchase is cash only from individuals. As far as the Government is concerned I own nothing. As long as you have cash, you will always find somebody willing to sell you what you want laws be damned (see the so called “war” on drugs for proof...”).


20 posted on 11/15/2012 12:30:35 PM PST by apillar
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The NRA endorses leftist demonicRats and has the temerity to do so in the name of "voting for freedom".

Your attitude needs to be adjusted. We have good, very pro-gun, conservative, Republican candidates for statewide office here in West Virginia, and the NRA ignores them.

That's inexcusable.

21 posted on 11/15/2012 12:35:16 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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22 posted on 11/15/2012 12:40:21 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: wita; brownsfan
The only problem with your statement is that he is right.

Romney is a gun grabber. He signed legislation into law in MA that mirrors the now sunsetted 'assault' weapons ban.

In MA...no magazine on any semi-automatic rifle can hold more than 10 rounds...handguns as well...10 rounds...except tubular rifle (.22) magazines.
No flash suppressors. No bayonet mounts. No grenade launchers, etc, etc.

That means I cannot own a stock Ruger Mini-14. Or a basic AR-15 platform rifle....and many, many others.
Basically, in MA...if you want long range stand off capability, you are relegated to a Winchester or Mossberg lever action 30-30 rifle. All because of Mitt Romney.

It might have taken him longer but Romney would have been very bad for gun owners. In my book as well, in that regard, he is no different from BHO.

23 posted on 11/15/2012 12:40:40 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Red Steel

You really think Boner won’t cry and cave in for a vote? Not saying it’d pass, but Boner will let this come up for a vote.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 12:44:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Your attitude needs to be adjusted. We have good, very pro-gun, conservative, Republican candidates for statewide office here in West Virginia, and the NRA ignores them. That’s inexcusable.”

My attitude is fine. What’s inexcusable is bashing and discarding an organization that has been the MOST EFFECTIVE at keeping you behind the trigger. Without them our laws would look alot like Britian’s or Australia’s. I don’t agree with everything they say or do, but I recognize that they are the ones who mainly beat back RAT gun control on many occasions. They are still exremely effective and it would be stupid to weaken them by removing our support.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 12:48:38 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: neverdem
The NRA can talk a good game....

But when it comes down to it...they will support Dims. WHY?

26 posted on 11/15/2012 12:48:47 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
You need to think about that a bit...........

FWIW-

27 posted on 11/15/2012 12:51:05 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: grobdriver

Amen Brother. You will get no argument from me on the mission of the NRA which is to perpetuate the NRA over any perceived concern for the second amendment.

The NRA would not understand the words “shall not be infringed” if it was a tattoo on the forehead of every single paid person in their employ.

I have tried for over fifty years to understand where they are on the scale of concern. My own censored NRA rating is probably influenced by my attempts at taking them to task for the very things you have stated in your comments.

I know seriously anti-gun democrats with a higher rating. Could be my stance on the NFA of 1936. An act to stop hardened criminals from doing each other in with machine guns, at the expense of honest law abiding citizens and the arms industry. Everyone in the USA could afford one and they would still be manufactured in sustainable numbers were it not for the congress conveniently forgetting those important words “shall not be infringed”.

I say this about machine guns in general and not just the Thompson sub gun.

The long term result of 1936 law and 1986 law is the serious and obvious situation where the lowliest Sheriff is able to outgun any citizen in the USA, and the US Govt outguns everyone. The citizenry is left with WWI and WWII
relics that are considerably less than state of the art, and in numbers, decreasing with time.

The NRA should consider every single law passed by congress that infringes on the second amendment to point to abject failure on their part. Fat chance.

Any old timers remember Neal Knox? I’m not putting words in his mouth, but I think he wrestled with the same issues and eventually could no longer deal with them, and went his own way.

Too bad the NRA isn’t on the side of the American people.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 12:52:25 PM PST by wita
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To: Secret Agent Man

I got a question for you and anyone else who wants to answer. Why didn’t Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Dums not pass a new “Assault Weapons” ban in 2009 or 2010 when they had total control of both houses of Congress and the White House?


29 posted on 11/15/2012 12:53:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

“DOA”

I didn’t know that you controlled Congress. /s

The House doesn’t pass treaties, the Senate does and he has all the Senators that he needs for it.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 12:57:17 PM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Blah, blah blah ...

I have presented you with objectively verifiable facts which discredit the NRA.

it would be stupid to weaken them by removing our support.

It is stupid for them to weaken us by supporting our enemies in the Senate.

Do you honestly believe that Joe Manchin will do anything other than vote in virtual lockstep with Harry Reid to support the 0bama agenda?

31 posted on 11/15/2012 12:59:06 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: CodeToad
The House doesn’t pass treaties, the Senate does and he has all the Senators that he needs for it.

Ummmm look at post 19. I'm a lot smarter than that.

32 posted on 11/15/2012 12:59:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: brownsfan

Also, that’s sarcasm I posted. HEAVY sarcasm.

I missed the /s

...but then some feel sarcasm is obvious.

On the other hand, I made darn sure I didn’t call you stupid,
just the statement. Your come back was gracious considering.

...and I did wrestle with the word ever, or should I have just said recently. Considering how long I have been here I should have said recently.

Thanks for the reasonable suspicion of accuracy. No sarcasm intended.


33 posted on 11/15/2012 1:00:03 PM PST by wita
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To: Osage Orange

“The NRA can talk a good game....
But when it comes down to it...they will support Dims. WHY?”

The NRA is a ONE ISSUE organization. The only thing they care about is the candidates position on gun control. Thats it. They support the candidate with the best position on gun control whether its Repub, RAT, or Independent. Sometimes it turns out to be a RAT. I dont agree with it but in the past it may have made sense because RATS weren’t the leftist nuts they are now.


34 posted on 11/15/2012 1:01:35 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Steel
Why didn’t Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Dums not pass a new “Assault Weapons” ban in 2009

They ran into more opposition to 0bamacare than they expected, and were busy shoving that down our throats.

35 posted on 11/15/2012 1:01:47 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: wita

“Thanks for the reasonable suspicion of accuracy. No sarcasm intended.”

No harm, no foul. I understand that what I intend as obvious sarcasm, may not be so obvious to the reader.

And another poster provided an example of why I should have used a sarcasm tag.


36 posted on 11/15/2012 1:05:03 PM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

More to that story. Their institutional memory kicked in where they remembered getting their butts handed to them in 1994.


37 posted on 11/15/2012 1:05:38 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ArrogantBustard

Blah, blah blah ...
“I have presented you with objectively verifiable facts which discredit the NRA.”

You provided nothing. Not supporting candidates you support doesnt discredit them. You hate Joe Manchin, they suported him and now you hate them. Blah, Blah, Blah.

“Do you honestly believe that Joe Manchin will do anything other than vote in virtual lockstep with Harry Reid to support the 0bama agenda?”

I don’t know anything about him. Maybe they supported him because he had a better position on gun control than your guy? Why do you think the NRA supported him?


38 posted on 11/15/2012 1:16:44 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I wrote:

"The NRA endorses leftist demonicRats and has the temerity to do so in the name of "voting for freedom"."

That is what we call a "fact". Joe Manchin is a leftist member of the so-called "Democrat Party". The NRA endorsed him.

I don’t know anything about him.

Yet you get all defensive when I criticize the NRA for endorsing him. Why is that?

Do some research for yourself ... find out what sort of Senator Joe Manchin has been. Cure your ignorance, so that you're capable of having an intelligent conversation.

Or not.

39 posted on 11/15/2012 1:23:43 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
We gun owners find ourselves once more under attack from our own government, and half of us have nothing more to offer than bitching about the NRA.

The enemy is reading this, and smiling. I would be too, if I were they.


40 posted on 11/15/2012 1:26:41 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: neverdem; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
We gun owners find ourselves once more under attack from our own government, and half of us have nothing more to offer than bitching about the NRA.

The enemy is reading this, and smiling. I would be too, if I were they.


41 posted on 11/15/2012 1:27:42 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: grobdriver
After checking our bank account, I believe we have enough to stop by for another case of ammo on the way home...

Be prepared for sticker shock!

42 posted on 11/15/2012 1:32:56 PM PST by Obadiah (Americans said, "Give us Barabbas!")
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Yet you get all defensive when I criticize the NRA for endorsing him. Why is that?”

I’ll take your word that he’s a leftist, but remember the NRA is a one issue organization. They will support a pro gun lefty over an anti-gun conservative. We should challenge them on that and try to change it but trashing the organization is not going to help us keep our guns.

I’ll ask again, why do you think the NRA supported Manchin? Are they now a leftist organization?


43 posted on 11/15/2012 1:35:53 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Joe Brower

“We gun owners find ourselves once more under attack from our own government, and half of us have nothing more to offer than bitching about the NRA.”

EXACTLY!


44 posted on 11/15/2012 1:37:37 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Steel

Takes 67 senators to ratify a treaty. Won’t happen. But Obama MAY simply pass an “executive order.”


45 posted on 11/15/2012 1:38:08 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: apillar

That is a very wise way to go that way. Can you speculate if that works for buying new items?


46 posted on 11/15/2012 1:38:08 PM PST by Obadiah (Americans said, "Give us Barabbas!")
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To: brownsfan
“Obama, Romney, they’re both the same. Romney would have done this”. You have just made things extremely difficult for me to treat you with any degree of respect, by the nature of your comment, which IMHO is the most blatantly stupid statement I have EVER seen on FreeRepublic


I agree with Wita ... take this guff over to DU where you belong.
47 posted on 11/15/2012 1:42:02 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
They will support a pro gun lefty over an anti-gun conservative.

The will also support a leftist over a pro-gun conservative.

We should challenge them on that and try to change it

Yes, we should. I don't pay dues for the purpose of supporting leftists.

but trashing the organization is not going to help us keep our guns.

The organization supporting leftists is not going to help us keep our guns either. The NRA endorsed leftist Democrat Joe Manchin for US Senate. I objected to their conduct as counterproductive and discrediting to them. They have done harm. I have not.

Are they now a leftist organization?

That they are an organization which supports leftists is an objective fact.

48 posted on 11/15/2012 1:47:24 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem

Look for the United Nations to stick its Leftist beak into American firearms ownership, highly increased state fees for processing permits, and for many states to seek HEAVY taxes and/or other fees placed on each and every firearm owned.

Potentially worse yet, Obama will, in all likelihood, have at least two supreme court appointments in the next four years, at which time he will nominate extreme Left wing, anti-gun, radicals who will make the Soviet praesidium look like a boy’s club.

Given the obvious Republican penchant for rolling over, spreading, and calling out, “F*ck me again, Democrats!” there may not be much resistance to Obama’s Machiavellian pressures.


49 posted on 11/15/2012 1:50:07 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: CodeToad

To pass a treaty requires 67 senators.


50 posted on 11/15/2012 1:51:13 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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