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19,605 to zero is statistical proof of outright vote fraud in 2012 presidential election
Natural News.com ^ | November 14, 2012 | J. D. Heyes

Posted on 11/15/2012 9:22:24 AM PST by Little Ray

(NaturalNews) In the weeks leading up to the Nov. 6 election, there were scattered concerns from across the political spectrum that vote fraud could occur in some sections of the country. While many of those fears did not come to fruition, based on final vote tallies in some polling districts, it's hard to fathom that some form of fraud did not occur.

Take Philadelphia, for instance - the "city of Brotherly Love" - where, once again, New Black Panther Party members were seen at some of the same polling places they were at in 2008, when charges of voter intimidation were leveled against them. In 59 districts around the city, GOP presidential challenger Mitt Romney got zero votes.

Zip. Nada. None.

Granted, in heavily Democratic urban districts in the city, it's not unusual for that party's candidate - in this case, President Obama - to win a heavy proportion of the vote. But all of them?

Sure, say analysts. It's not unusual at all. Nothing to see here.

Saddam Hussein always got nearly 100 percent of the vote too

"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University, told Philly.com, a joint website of the Philadelphia Inquirer and Philadelphia Daily News newspapers.

"It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia," he said.

That's because most large cities are 75-80 percent Democrats, making them practically politically homogenous and much easier to organize than, say, rural areas where folks live far apart, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns.

"One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," she said.

But isn't it just as easy to knock on doors in Republican strongholds, even if they are farther apart? And that's another issue - if we are to believe there are Democratic "corridors," doesn't it follow that there are Republican "corridors" as well?

Some GOP officials are asking these very same questions, especially after learning that, in 59 Philadelphia voting districts Obama out-polled Romney by a stunning 19,605 to zero. Even in heavily Democratic Philly, are we to believe that in nearly 60 polling districts there is not a single dissenting voter? The last political candidate in recent member to poll that overwhelmingly was Iraq's Saddam Hussein.

Those districts were concentrated in overwhelmingly black sectors of the city. But again - not a single Romney supporter? Not even one?

That's a huge stretch, to say the least, says Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives.

"We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot," he said, referencing his party's voter ID initiative that, perhaps not surprisingly, was held off the state ballot for this election.

No such thing as a 100 percent Republican voting precinct

University of Virginia political scientist Dr. Larry Sabato, who has studied voting in African American-dominated precincts, told Philly.com he had occasionally seen instances where 100 percent of the vote went to the Democratic candidate, citing precincts in Chicago and Atlanta which recorded no votes for the GOP's candidate, Sen. John McCain, in 2008.

"I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said.

Still, the high number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, he added.

"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.

In a city with 1,687 of the ward subsets known as divisions, each with hundreds of voters, 59 is about 3.5 percent of the total, Philly.com reported.

Not much has been made about this voting phenomenon by the mainstream media, but we suspect the outrage and uproar would have been loud and boisterous, to say the least, if there were wide swaths of voting districts where not a single Democratic vote was cast.

Sources:

http://articles.philly.com

http://www.foxnews.com

http://marketdailynews.com

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037952_vote_fraud_Philadelphia_elections.html#ixzz2CJRn1pzH


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; electionfraud; fraud; votefraud; voterfraud
More thoughts on vote fraud in the current election.
1 posted on 11/15/2012 9:22:31 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: Little Ray

You’d think at least one person would vote by mistake for Romney.

These are the welfare, food stamp, handout precincts. Still, not ONE holdout or mis-vote? Fishy.


2 posted on 11/15/2012 9:26:12 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Little Ray
"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.

Many of these voters have a very limited educational background. It is hard to believe that not a single voting error was made even if they all intended to vote for Obama.

Can you imagine if 20,000 grade school children were asked to vote for a particular candidate that not one of them would have made an error?

3 posted on 11/15/2012 9:30:43 AM PST by oldbrowser (Welcome to U.S.Zimbabwe)
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To: Little Ray
Canvassing the neighborhood to see if anyone voted for Romney is in order. They'd probably get shot though; These are 0bama and Holder's people!

The woman who chose our President.

4 posted on 11/15/2012 9:30:43 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Little Ray

My initial thought is to look at the “down ticket” totals in these precincts. Not sure if there were any Republicans running in some of the other races there, but if those were also 0 votes for Republicans, that might be telling.


5 posted on 11/15/2012 9:32:16 AM PST by ssaftler (It's mourning in America.)
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To: Little Ray

They’re sending a message. It’s pretty in your face, and they know no one will do anything. Submit or else, they are saying.


6 posted on 11/15/2012 9:32:30 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Little Ray

I have to agree, but if a person voted for Romney and learned Romney recieved zero votes in that precint, you would think they would have come forward by now quetioning ZERO votes.


7 posted on 11/15/2012 9:34:05 AM PST by nomobs
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To: Little Ray

Standard union thuggery.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 9:34:21 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Defiant
Worth repeating:

They’re sending a message. It’s pretty in your face, and they know no one will do anything. Submit or else, they are saying.

Defiant nails it.

9 posted on 11/15/2012 9:36:22 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Little Ray

I’d like to see at least one voter in one of these districts who DID vote for Romney (assuming as we ALL do that one exists), stand up and be heard. They’d have standing to pursue a voter-fraud case, as they were disenfranchised directly.


10 posted on 11/15/2012 9:40:20 AM PST by AbeKrieger (If you believe in manmade global warming, you likely lack the gift of reason.)
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To: Little Ray
That's because most large cities are 75-80 percent Democrats, making them practically politically homogenous and much easier to organize than, say, rural areas where folks live far apart

Thus the reason for Obama's rural council.
11 posted on 11/15/2012 9:40:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Little Ray

Fraud or not, the current occupant of the oval office gets a pass. Even if there’s proof of fraud, he will get a free pass.


12 posted on 11/15/2012 9:42:34 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Little Ray
Obama’s minions telling us to screw us, they can do anything they damn well please and have no negative consequences to their actions. They are in our face and we are pussies for allowing it to go on without standing up and sticking a lawyer or a gun to their faces.
13 posted on 11/15/2012 9:42:33 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: nomobs

Looking at the numbers from Flint Michigan it looks like Romney received less votes than republican straight ticket voters.

It is possible because we can vote straight ticket and still split the vote but it seems pretty unlikely that people voted straight GOP ticket and broke for Obama.


14 posted on 11/15/2012 9:44:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigerClaws

Does it make sense to anyone that in areas where most of the people cannot even read, they would not make one error in whom to vote for out of almost 20,000 votes cast???


15 posted on 11/15/2012 9:49:27 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Little Ray

bkmk


16 posted on 11/15/2012 9:50:07 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: cripplecreek

Too many problems, too many irregularities. Early voting, absent voting, motor voter, etc. have led us to a point that it makes it easy for politicians with no moral compass to win, even though a majority of the peple did not support him/her.

Shows how low our elected (I did not say fairly elected) officials are. They do not care they are not liked or preferred. They are less than admirable.

Anyone have any idea when the last fair election occured? It may have been before the secret ballot. It is not those who vote that determine the outcome, but those that count the vote.

When congress changed the way we elect senators, our country was forever doomed to be corrupted by the election process.


17 posted on 11/15/2012 10:11:12 AM PST by nomobs
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To: Little Ray

Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why our great loss. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud ...Expecting GOP E’s to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another . But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign gave.choking on political correctness parameters devised by the socialist party known as Democrat ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

They failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s choking energy policies, restricted drilling, use of coal ,ban on fracking, and that related price..(a socialist construct never branded as such) was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook...The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. Including rampant corruption . Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived)

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable, while I trully don’t believe Mitt Romney would never continence losing, I’m begining to wonder if many GOPE’s didn’t want to see O care go ..


18 posted on 11/15/2012 10:13:49 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: nomobs

Tallies from Detroit are apparently top secret because I still haven’t found those.


19 posted on 11/15/2012 10:13:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Little Ray

no 3rd party votes either?


20 posted on 11/15/2012 10:14:49 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: nomobs
When congress changed the way we elect senators, our country was forever doomed to be corrupted by the election process.

Yep. The 17th Amendment was snake oil sold under the banner of empowerment when all it really did was strip the states of power and gave the idiots a popular vote for senators. Care to guess where Levin and Stabenow win?

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21 posted on 11/15/2012 10:18:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Little Ray

So what, who’s going to anything about it?

Soap box - Ha, who listens?
Ballot box - Who needs it, Fraud.
Jury box - See John Roberts
Cartridge box - after that, dictatorship.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 10:23:38 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: TigerClaws

While I agree that the election overall was won through fraud, I don’t find it odd that a neighborhood that is 100% black underclass voted 100% for Zero. I have lived in Harlem - which is Paris compared to a bad Philadelphia neighborhood and I know these people. They probably didn’t know who Romney was, and wouldn’t have recognized a photo of him.


23 posted on 11/15/2012 10:25:10 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Little Ray

Any questions why the democrats don’t want photo ID?.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 10:27:17 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Little Ray

I don’t understand this argument. Have you ever been to Cleveland or Philly? I am not at all surprised that Romney received no votes in large parts of both cities. This is about voter choices, not statistics. There are areas of both cities where a few republican voters live (parts of South Philly for instance are still somewhat GOP friendly). But huge swaths have no republicans at all - zip, zilch, nada.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 10:28:28 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Little Ray

Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...now its..”they came and voted but the touch screen vote didn’t register”..”there’s no Republicans in that part of town anywhere”...NONSENSE!!!!....the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.

The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.

Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.

Absent a clean vote.....We the People are being taxed without representation..Ask George III how well that worked out!


26 posted on 11/15/2012 10:33:56 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: TigerClaws
These are the welfare, food stamp, handout precincts. Still, not ONE holdout or mis-vote? Fishy.

I just checked the Cleveland numbers. In each precinct, even where Mitt got zero, there were several over votes* and or a vote for Gary Johnson.

My guess is the over vote was the person too dumb to vote just once for president. May have written in and filled in the oval.

Also, the precincts neighboring these also had Romney votes of around 2 to 10 votes a precinct.

Also turnout in these was not especially high.

There's less here than meets the eye.

27 posted on 11/15/2012 10:36:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Tagline X. Waiting to be given a new tagline.)
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To: Alter Kaker

These people are also largely idiots. Not even one mistake?

And they managed to get 90%+ turnout?

And this just happens to be in precincts where they expelled the Republican poll watchers?

Smells bad to me.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 10:36:59 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: mosesdapoet

“Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with...”

Ya see...the problem here is that you, as do some of the the other Freepers her, and most of the general public, believe we still had an election. What we had was a stage show...an “election”

This “election” worked out great for,DC...the Inside the Beltway crowd, while preoccupied with voter disenfranchisement in the 60’s ...could no longer care about the peons and peasants in Flyover Country.

“Direct” disenfranchisement refers to actions that explicitly prevent people from voting or having their votes counted, as opposed to “indirect” techniques, which attempt to prevent people’s votes from having an impact on political outcomes (e.g., gerrymandering, ballot box stuffing, stripping elected officials of their powers).

http://www.umich.edu/~lawrace/disenfranchise1.htm

In fact the DC crowd made sure we all knew about this just prior to the election...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/19/Government-Long-on-Hollow-Point-Bullets-Short-on-Answers

Which was basically their “ watcha gonna do about it “. Threat.....

Romney himself may/may not realize yet he just ran in an “election”...though if he didn’t before Nov 6th, he’s beginning to realize it now.


29 posted on 11/15/2012 10:38:19 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: cripplecreek

The 17th Amendment should have been written, so that, whatever was the previous Election Method A, *that* would be followed by *the other Election Method B,* resulting in Election Method A (VOTE BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE) alternating with Election Method B (VOTE BY PROVEN U.S. CITIZENS WHO ARE ALSO PROVEN RESIDENTS OF THE STATE); hence, A then B then A then B and so on.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 10:50:45 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Little Ray
These people are also largely idiots. Not even one mistake?

If the whole reason you show up to go vote is to vote for Obama I'm not sure how you'd screw that up. And folks who are illiterate can receive assistance. I've not heard the "no poll observer" argument but if Romney didn't have any, he was an idiot - that said I'm not sure why these results are strange. Lilly white John Kerry got 88% of the black vote nationally in 2004 - and since that's an average that suggests that in a lot of areas he got well over 90% and possibly 100% of the black vote. Obama is obviously more popular among blacks than Kerry was. So not only does this not seem strange to me, but it seems kind of obvious.

31 posted on 11/15/2012 10:52:10 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Little Ray

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.


Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


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MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:

>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Here’s What You Can Do:

Here

Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here


SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin @SarahPalinUSA Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinUSA People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here

Another website:

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!

Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here




32 posted on 11/15/2012 10:54:10 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: IbJensen; garyb; MrChips; Mr. K; Thorliveshere; copaliscrossing; plain talk; M Kehoe; TigerClaws; ..

ping


33 posted on 11/15/2012 10:55:21 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: cripplecreek

There is no question that the founders KNEW that the popular vote in the senate would give us the Harry Reids, Mich McConnels, and Graham/McCain twins. They wanted statesmen, not snake oils salesmen as the body that would not have any problem doing the right thing - like actually find a president guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors and remove him from office.

Now - they are playing politics with the survival of the nation, without regard to what their state wants or is doing. No state representation in DC anymore. It is no wonder you have so many petitions for succession right now.

With the severe damage being done to the 10th amendment, this goes hand in hand with how a nation dies.


34 posted on 11/15/2012 10:56:51 AM PST by nomobs
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To: Little Ray
And they managed to get 90%+ turnout?

If true, that is suspicious.

I heard all kinds of crazy allegations about Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, I went to the Board of Elections website and found almost all of the crazy stuff to be false.

Now I am not defending Philly. I just wonder if anyone has looked.

35 posted on 11/15/2012 10:59:28 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Tagline X. Waiting to be given a new tagline.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The ‘Pubbie poll watchers DID show up. They were kicked out.

I still think it is suspicious.


36 posted on 11/15/2012 11:07:46 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray
>>>”Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into,” he said.<<<

What I said day after the election.

There are several areas that normally cause variation to every process besides simply the Person that should that have resulted in some measure of error...Machine, Method, Measurement, Materials, Mother Nature (aka Environment).

In Quality - this is referred to as the 5M’s and a P (or 6M’s) and are considered the 6 Major Factors that relate the causation of errors in a process. These types of errors are considered normal or common cause to the variation.

This election yielded orders of magnitude more of Zero vote results for Romney and that's exceptional to Sabato and others.

With that, here is the statistical data artifact - when there is a complete ZERO of errors (shown as 100% Obama) at this extreme level then statistically that demonstrates that there is a Special Cause that is providing those results.

So to sum up, they most likely cheated to an extreme and in doing so have left data that demonstrates this because there are no traces of the normal amount of usual errors that a process exhibits.

I can't prove they cheated with this data, but I can prove that this data should be DEEPLY and THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED to define what that Special Cause was!!!

This is how Companies use statistics to tell them there is a business problem for them to dig into and resolve.

Its what WE the PEOPLE should be screaming to our Political Leaders today.

37 posted on 11/15/2012 11:10:00 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: AbeKrieger

We should place an ad in those districts asking for somebody to come out. It would give standing to challenge the results.


38 posted on 11/15/2012 11:11:24 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: nomobs

If you had to live there, would you announce to the world that you voted for Romney?


39 posted on 11/15/2012 11:23:21 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

If I was not willing to own it, I do not deserve the right to vote. Period


40 posted on 11/15/2012 12:15:08 PM PST by nomobs
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To: Little Ray
But again - not a single Romney supporter? Not even one?

No votes for Romney is less surprising than 100% for Obama. The bigger issue is that in heavily liberal areas, there is always a group that will vote third party. I would understand no votes for Romney, but cannot fathom that no other candidate, besides Obama, got votes either.

41 posted on 11/15/2012 12:25:02 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Little Ray

We can’t let them get away with this. What has your representative and senator (either party) told you about what they are doing to eliminate all fraudulent votes cast in your state?


42 posted on 11/15/2012 12:25:58 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Don't expect solutions. DC doesn't run on logic. Almost four yrs w/out a budget.)
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To: Little Ray

I can’t imagine how you can have a vote in which a major candidate gets no votes at all out of 20,000 people.

I remember this story dimly about Lyndon Johnson winning his bid for the senate in 1948 upon the discovery of a box of uncounted votes, all for him and all written in the same ink. He was sworn in anyway.

Those calls for seccession, or going Galt, stem from realization of this kind of fraud.


43 posted on 11/15/2012 1:19:56 PM PST by redpoll
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To: NeoCaveman

I’ve had trouble finding any online precinct data for past elections. They certainly don’t have a high-tech database easily accessable, like in some states.

But that is where you want to start. Check the precincts over the past decade, to see patterns.

I did that for Ohio, and found most of the “outrageous” results there matched patterns from previous elections.

It is particularly funny seeing so many people here, a place where by and large the flaws of the republican candidate were well-discussed, suddenly treating him like an excellent campaigner who couldn’t possibly have managed to turn off an entire precinct of voters.

But it’s easy enough to imagine. In addition to the normal “democrat/republican” thing, and the special Obama “black/white” thing, Romney was also really RICH, which brought the “poor/rich” thing into play, and also was a mormon, which could be exploited by the black churches to further supress a random Romney vote.

John McCain was a war hero. There was going to be the random black moderate who, even though they were pressured to vote for a black man for President, might be a veteran and decide to vote McCain. Such a voter would have NO REASON to vote for Romney. Romney was a polarizing candidate for purposes of analysing urban votes, and Obama exploited that with the “47%” meme, and the attacks on Romney as “rich old white guy”.

Add in that the random McCain voter in 2008 could have been hispanic, and hispanics were even more turned off by Romney, and it’s easy to see how Romney could have lost the random single vote that might have shown up in these precincts. His economic message would never reach ghetto voters who were dependent on tax money for their livelyhood.

It is btw pretty much true that, in these states, you won’t find 100% republican votes. That’s because any really good republican area will be a NICE PLACE TO LIVE, so you’ll get some democrats who move in because they like living in nice places.

What republican is going to want to move into a tenement house in a dead part of a liberal-run city?


44 posted on 11/15/2012 1:37:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
This data from the WSJ would tend to support your thesis:


45 posted on 11/15/2012 1:41:27 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: nascarnation

Another thought on your numbers. I’m not sure that is exactly a trend, I think it shows the value of incumbentcy. That these cultures value it. 2008 is probably the baseline average (no incumbent) as opposed to 2004 and 2008.


46 posted on 11/15/2012 1:46:01 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Tagline X. Waiting to be given a new tagline.)
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To: patriot08

Please remove me from your ping list. I never asked to be on it... Thanks.


47 posted on 11/15/2012 4:18:06 PM PST by deport
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To: Little Ray

There were 57 precincts in Philly that didn’t record a vote for McCain in 2008. So this isn’t like it hasn’t happened before. People are acting like this is something new.


48 posted on 11/15/2012 4:22:49 PM PST by deport
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To: nomobs

Sure, because if you’re not willing to get lynched, you don’t deserve to vote. /s


49 posted on 11/15/2012 8:34:13 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

if there could be a way to get a message out in the district, to have anyone who voted for Allen call a #...perhaps an airplane dragging a banner with that message flying over the district? wt*?


50 posted on 11/17/2012 8:12:07 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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