Skip to comments.Petraeus replacement to testify CIA never requested military assistance in Benghazi (hhmmm)
Posted on 11/15/2012 6:11:48 AM PST by SE Mom
...When the CIAs acting director, Michael Morell, testifies Thursday before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he is expected to say that the agency never requested Europe-based special operations teams, specialized Marine platoons, or armed drones on the night of the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official...
...That differs from what Fox News reported almost three weeks ago, and which has gone virtually unchallenged in the vacuum of official explanations about Benghazi since. Jennifer Griffin reported on October 26th, citing sources that were actually on the ground in Benghazi during the attack, that the CIA contingent repeatedly requested assistance but were told to stand down twice by officials in the CIA chain of command...
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So...did Jennifer Griffin's sources lie to her?
Orrr...is Morell lying to Congress? Will he testify under oath today?
Who to believe...who to believe...
American flag. Soviet machinations.
Besides the bldg/compound under attack nominally belonged to the State Dept. It could easily be the case that it was the State Dept op that requested assistance, leaving the CIA off the hook.
The real question is what ops were being undertaken in Ben Ghazi and who set them in motion?
Are we to believe that an American embassy under attack has to REQUEST help?
It [the “testimony”] does what it is supposed to. It gets obama off the hook.
Leftists lie. No surprise here.
Well, Joe Wilson was right. All this Administration does is lie. And they get away with it. So they just keep lying. Why not?
I haven’t heard that since the Clinton days.
All of these communications would have been recorded. I expect that the incriminating portions have already been expunged. As for whether there were specific requests for assistance, being told “we’re under attack by a well armed and sizeable force” is more than sufficient to warrant a response from CIA headquarters. How could they not have asked the most basic questions of their people at the Annex: What is the current situation? Are you holding your perimeter? Have their been any casualties? What weapons do you have? What weapons do the enemy have? DO YOU REQUIRE ASSISTANCE? We are being asked to believe that the Director of the CIA, an experienced military commander, didn’t do anything because people under attack didn’t ask???
Now the acting director, Morell served as deputy CIA director to Petraeus since 2010. He has been the agencys director of Asian Pacific and Latin American Analysis and the briefer of presidents on national security matters.
In that position, according to a White House aide, Morell often briefed Obama as the United States closed in on Osama bin Laden, earning the presidents trust and developing a close relationship with him.
Morell is extraordinarily well respected in the White House, across the intelligence community and throughout the national security establishment, the aide said, discussing the deputys elevation to acting director.
The smartest thing Petraeus did was to form a partnership early on with Michael Morell, who was acting director before his arrival and resumed that role Friday. Morell is a career analyst and veteran of the mill that produces the famous PDB, or presidents daily brief, and he knew the agencys culture or at least the analysts version of it. His task was to encourage Petraeus when his commanders instincts made sense for the agency, and dissuade him when his ideas were counter-productive.
Michael J. Morell: Introducing the CIAs New Acting Director
When you don’t have a free press, like the US now, the government can say and do pretty much whatever it wants. At least the USSR had the ‘at that time’ free Western press trying to set the record straight. In 2012, however, we don’t have much in the way of truth seekers to protect us from the politburo.
A couple weeks ago a former special operator called into a talk show to explain to the host how it works when an embassy or consulate is under attack. Immediately after the first shots were fired, a communications specialist (likely Sean Smith) fired off numerous secure communications to a post in DC that reports directly to the President. Those secure communications would've outlined that the embassy was under attack and needed immediate assistance. That communication would've been handed to the President directly. That communications specialist cannot hand the communication to anyone except the president, so Obama knew. He knew, he had to make a call, and he did not.
4 men died as a result.
There’s no conflict.
The CIA people on site requested military assistance and their CIA bosses didn’t.
...Because Obama didn’t give them Cross Border Authority.
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The White Rabbit put on his spectacles. `Where shall I begin, please your Majesty?’ he asked.
`Begin at the beginning,’ the King said gravely, `and go on till you come to the end: then stop.’
These were the verses the White Rabbit read:—
`They told me you had been to her,
And mentioned me to him:
She gave me a good character,
But said I could not swim.
He sent them word I had not gone
(We know it to be true):
If she should push the matter on,
What would become of you?
I gave her one, they gave him two,
You gave us three or more;
They all returned from him to you,
Though they were mine before.
If I or she should chance to be
Involved in this affair,
He trusts to you to set them free,
Exactly as we were.
My notion was that you had been
(Before she had this fit)
An obstacle that came between
Him, and ourselves, and it.
Don’t let him know she liked them best,
For this must ever be
A secret, kept from all the rest,
Between yourself and me.’
`That’s the most important piece of evidence we’ve heard yet,’ said the King, rubbing his hands; `so now let the jury—’
Left Hand - Right Hand
Overtheirheads - Outofcontrol
All of the statements about this thing from the very beginning have been cast in the Bill Clinton mode: “It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.”
They are trying to keep it to some level where they feel they can defend themselves as being correct on a technicality and are answering solely based on their parsing of the question, not what the questioner really wanted to know.
Of course the problem is- there is NO ONE we can actually trust. It’s possible that Griffin’s source was not telling the truth- or that it was a cover story THEY were making up.
It’s hard to believe that NO requests for help were requested. I seem to remember audio tapes while it was going on that asked for help..
IIR, there were some rather horrific sounding tapes of the three SEAL/CIA-types screaming for help. Hope someone saved those because that is all we have to contradict the lies. Thank you, General Can't-Keep-My-Pants-On for taking what ever hope for justice there was and squashing it.
It would seem to me that unless the State Department personnel including the Ambassador were assigned to to work temporarily under the command of the CIA there is a protocol. Three words: “Chain”, “Of”, and “Command”. IF Ambassador Stevens was assigned to work temporarily for the CIA for whatever reason, then his Chain of Command would have been directly to the CIA, but IF he was not, and was totally under the State Department, then the CIA would be off the hook for any requests by Mr. Stevens other than having been aware, and doing some communication possibly to gain approval themselves to do something in a timely manner to save those peoples lives.
It is because of this real life “Chain of Command” protocol that I believe this whole screwup belongs to the team of Obama/Hillary with Hillary running point.
As does Fast & Furious, THIS Benghazi screwup STINKS of a typical Hillary forged scenario with half-assed follow through if none at all. Hillary transforms deadly imaginings into political games, but without the extensive details she is either too lazy to forge to completion, or too incompetent to do so, thus leaves for Belize, or wherever leaving others to try to manage without her to consult.
They are scrambling to protect the Party for Hillary’s 2016 run.
His car is on fire, he can't get out.
He calls for help.
No help is sent.
The Emergency dispatcher gets called in to explain:
"Well, sir, he didn't ask for an ambulance, nor a fire truck, nor police, so we didn't send anyone."
Candy Crowley, George Stephanopoulis and Diane Sawyer all note the dispacher is a Democrat and sing out in perfect harmony:
"Why that makes perfect sense."
There will be legion testimony to oppose this, from people who heard the CIA plea in real time.
Morell and Obama think they have capped their leakers and whistle blowers......sorry, they have not.
So 2 SEALS/CIA ran at a small army and faced a certain death? BTW, a caller to WRKO this morning said they were told to stand down and they should have.
"He told Rush that protocol dictates that as soon as the situation room got the email about the Benghazi attack, someone marched up to the president and informed him of the attack. He says its a bald faced lie if they say otherwise.
He also says that it was the president who gave the order at his 5pm meeting that day to not respond to the Libya attack in progress."
If he had an order to send something into the battle then he was acting as the POTOS claims top have ordered the Military.
Why then does he AND the Admiral get fired?!!!!!!
They WERE executing what the President ordered them to do, but they are now arrested and demoted.
I saw some reference to these two guys sending 80 Jihadis to meet their 72 porcine virgins. Is there a media reference to that?
But did they request HELP!
Were they supposed to request specific HELP?
I don’t understand. Is this more parsing of words? Of course they would have asked for help, they were under attack for hours.
There’s audio of requests for help, Hannity says.
Now, she might have been relying on the Fox report. Or she may have had other sources of information.
As far as I know, those recordings have never been made public and transcripts have never been released.
Maybe those sources have since been silenced...
Thus, Hillary took full responsibility for Benghazi, and now she is in Australia as she awaits her resignation day.
State Department employees put out the first calls for help.
A bit of waterboarding should be in order, to arrive at the truth....
That CIA may not have requested something does not imply that the consulate didn’t... or the embassy... or the State Department...
And if CIA HQ may not have, this doesn’t mean that CIA boots on the ground did not.....
Watch for the nuances.
But the bigger story is the four week Presidential LIE and the the Hillary LIE.
I want to know this really basic information......Has anyone asked or do they know if Obama was specifically in the “situation room” during this attack and for how long? How long into the attack did he give the order and to whom, to assist these people?
It’s going to take more than “unnamed sources” to take down Obama.
As far as I know- no one has directly asked O where he was and what he was doing for those many hours that we were under attack in Benghazi. There’s some speculation- but no one has definitive answer.
However, we DO have photos of him in the Situation Room a week before the ELECTION “working” on the response to Hurricane Sandy.
This simple, IF the CIC was in the situation room or even being briefed on the situation in Benghazi, he is immediately and irrevocably responsible for decision-making during such a crisis. That is what he is paid for and that is what is expected. This business of questioning the State Department, the CIA, and the military is all a diversion. I want to see Obama’s ass brought in for questioning, he is the center of it all, and it needs to happen.
That’s what we all want. Odds of it happening are not high..though I hope at LEAST there are people in power who ARE asking that.
No wonder stuff can't be found.