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Is Petraeus Falling on His Sword?
American Thinker ^ | 11/10/12 | Fay Voshell

Posted on 11/10/2012 2:36:46 AM PST by advance_copy

Was General Petraeus told by the Obama administration to fall on his sword? Was the general told he would be exposed unless he clammed up about Benghazi? Did he decide to blow his own cover before the president could? Could it be he is sitting on stuff that would tempt some in ccongress to consider the president's impeachment -- and Obama knows it?

There are so many unanswered questions.

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If he is ordered to tell the truth and does so, the consequences for the administration could be catastrophic.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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Could people in DC/Chicago be thinking that he cannot testify about CIA without that agency first approving what he has to say? That would be false comfort for any who might believe this resignation will force the General to be silent.

Any prohibition on revealing the truth, even if classified, does not apply to sworn testimony in Congress or any court in the US. The House or Senate do not even need to subpoena Patraeus. They only need to get him there under oath.

1 posted on 11/10/2012 2:36:52 AM PST by advance_copy
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To: advance_copy

This whole thing stinks! The FBI was spying and reading the CIA director’s email that they “just happened” to come across???? Think about it! Very strange!


2 posted on 11/10/2012 2:45:29 AM PST by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: advance_copy
With the stress and emotional trauma Patraeus may be experiencing he could literally fall on his sword.
3 posted on 11/10/2012 2:48:55 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: advance_copy

Simply, water does not mix with oil. It doesn’t have to be about a deep dark conspiracy. The General quit and Obama just got reelected..it’s not rocket science.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 2:52:46 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: advance_copy

It seems that he made a deal with Obama team.
He knows too much, but his lips are sealed.

America is in a dark age now. media is not media any more. We can’t get any truth.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 2:55:43 AM PST by granada
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To: Cricket24

They want to bring him down and tarnish his reputation because Petraeus IS widely respected and admired. That was when and if he does testify and come clean about this Benghazi mess, they can discredit him.

Makes you wonder IF this woman was part of the plan??????


6 posted on 11/10/2012 2:55:51 AM PST by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: advance_copy

I think the General has fallen on his sword for the good of the country. He by admitting to his tryst is saying to those who were blackmailing him “I’m coming to get you!”


7 posted on 11/10/2012 2:57:06 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Earthdweller
"The General quit and Obama just got reelected..it’s not rocket science."

DITTOS

8 posted on 11/10/2012 2:58:09 AM PST by DeaconRed (Don't Blame Me I voted for the Mormon over the Muslim)
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To: advance_copy

“Is Petraeus Falling on His Sword?”

At a minimum. The timing of this is no coincidence.

The Friday afternoon immediately after the election?

They couldn’t be more obvious if they tried.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 2:59:08 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cricket24

He knows..............he needed to go, he didn’t keep himself clean or he was seduced. Here is where they had him. Cleanup all the loose ends. Many elected officials who were suppose to be on our side Im sure are being held in an agreeable position because of this tactic.


10 posted on 11/10/2012 2:59:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: granada
"We can’t get any truth."

AMEN I don't trust even FOX anymore. . . .

11 posted on 11/10/2012 3:01:05 AM PST by DeaconRed (Don't Blame Me I voted for the White Boy. . . . . .)
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To: Cricket24

I suspect the FBI was looking at some bits of classified info appearing in a NY Times article, by the junior-journalist involved. They looked at her background....saw Patraeus and went to ask him what his current connection is to her. He probably sensed some massive investigation going on, and admitted what he had been doing...strictly hot passion, no talk. Then they asked to look at his private email situation, and found that she was hacking into his personal email account (Yahoo can tell you from what region you are loggin in from easily). The general at that point suddenly realized that she was literally screwing him in more ways than one. I think the General did the practical thing left....quit.

The curious thing is that he had some political aspirations. Now? I don’t think he will ever run for anything. He will simply retire from the public and live on some ranch out west.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 3:02:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cricket24

On the other hand.... Let’s think about this logically...

If I, Petreaus, had something on you, Obama, and I was going to go pubic with it if subpoened, but before that would happen you, Obama, thru some surrogate made it clear that if I did the world would know about your extra marital affair what would I do?

1. Like most men run and hide and agree not to testify
2. If I’m afraid of no man, I would come forth on my own and admit my sin, before hand freeing myself from your blackmail.

I think this is a precursor to Petreaus coming forth. He NOW has the leverage on Obama as does Hillary. Why did she lawyer up after Benghazi?

You can be sure also, that Petreaus has told many people about this or has it documented. So if by chance he has an untimely death the word will still get out.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 3:08:37 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: pepsionice

I guess, my friends, it comes down to this. The media was appalled at Watergate...but now we have basically a situation where a president showed his cowardess and let Americans die because he feared not getting re elected.

I cannot believe that we’ve grown, even our media, so callous and heartless than to see the evil and wrong in this, if indeed that is what happened.

What strikes me also, is the cover up seems to span into others like Pinnetta and Ham the General.

Is the media going to just let this drop? Is there not one former Navy Seal out there who wants to know what happened to his comrade?

Mark my words, Obama will be in the same predicament time and time again in the future...What will he do then esp if it means sending troops in to fight Muslims? He won’t.

Right now he is the most powerful man in the world, and he can tell these tin pot dictators what to do....but he won’t..he will cozy up to them....

Anyone who agrees to work as an ambassador for this country in light of all this...is crazy....


14 posted on 11/10/2012 3:16:08 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: advance_copy

I really cannot imagine ANY servicemember having enough respect for this pos, poseur in chief to fall on his sword for him.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 3:29:39 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: advance_copy

Unbelievable disgrace is totally believable when it comes from the democrats...

They actually use adultery to cover-up treasonous manslaughter.

Unbelievable/believable.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 3:29:39 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Unbelievable/believable.)
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To: advance_copy

0bama has history of doing this kind of stuff from the time he first started runnng for public offices.

BUT...our military/cia/etc. ain’t all squeaky clean either.

We ‘re making a mistake to think in a SHTF moment they will save the nation. That is a romantic notion at best when some 50% of them voted for 0bama as well.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 3:33:19 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: pepsionice

Ya, got a good taste of political reality he did... yet, if he puts his house in order, he can easily overcome this and swing the door wide open on this den of cockroaches. Even good moral men fall, but the really wise and courageous moral man confesses his sin and exposes the darkness that endangers us all... God, help him to be such a man...


18 posted on 11/10/2012 3:39:15 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: advance_copy

Time will tell us why Patreaus resigned, but the article mentions Impeachment.

That’s a joke.

All impeachment come from the House.

Boehner

LMAO


19 posted on 11/10/2012 3:43:38 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Cricket24

The FBI knew about his affair long ago. Pretending they just found out about his emails is BS. If there even WERE emails to the skank.

I have a hard time believing Gen P is that stupid.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 3:44:33 AM PST by bonfire
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To: advance_copy

What if Patraeus never had an affair and told his wife that he was going to do this to get out of testifying. The only problem is the woman getting attention as the other woman. Could the Patraeus’ be paying her off?


21 posted on 11/10/2012 3:51:06 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: ronnie raygun

He was seduced.

NO ONE has yet pointed our what a powerful woman Broadwell is....

she is powerful, agressive - a female “Renaissance” person....check out these.......

THIS IS BIG.....but all the focus is on Petraeus now....eventually it will come out
how powerful she is.......bet she was a major in the Army Reserves.....

And I’ll almost guarantee that she’s the one who made the first move.....she met a man she had to conquer……who Petraeus could out-run though much older…...look at her resume’…...

http://www.penguinspeakersbureau.com/speakers/page/paula_broadwell

And watch her come on stage and how she responds to Jon Stewart - beating him at his game while looking like a knock-out movie star.......a brilliant, driven and
stunning woman in full control.....

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell


22 posted on 11/10/2012 3:52:02 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: DeaconRed
I feel exactly like that!! I don't trust ANYTHING any more. Fox, Mainstream, Hannity, Rush.

I find myself questioning everything! Are my taxes going up? Should I start being super frugal and save up? Is inflation going to make saving pointless? Is my 3 months of emergency water and canned goods enough? Should I prep for longer? I have a little silver, should I buy more? Is my 401k going to be ok? Should I just try to ignore "zillion dollar deficits", "fiscal cliffs" and "debt ceilings" and carry on contributing to my retirement and spending as usual? I don't know!

The one and only thing I feel confident about right now is my supply of ammo.

23 posted on 11/10/2012 3:55:48 AM PST by Casie
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To: advance_copy

More like falling on a little pocket knife, I posted this on an earlier thread...

This isn’t A + B = C ... what is going on is more akin to Math and what the guy in “A Beautiful Mind” was scribbling on windows ... it is a very high level Chess game.

The price that the General just paid says more about the level than the facts that we now know.

I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I couldn’t possibly know... but I did spend 28 years in Uniform and I do know that this little dagger that Petraeus is falling on now is magnified 10X (or more) in the Media to make it look like a Sword... it is an illusion or distraction... the who, what and why is yet to be determined and will probably never be known to any others than the few that are engaged in this particular game.

Also Petraeus is way too powerful for Zero to just let go peacefully to pasture... he knows far too much and has many allies and if he had somehow been forced to put his Queen at risk... Zero has lot’s of people to take care of things while he plays Golf but recently he has stepped into a different realm and I predict (quite sure of it) he is going to fall far ... far short of the task ... Biden can’t / won’t last either so President Boehner?

Interesting times! (Chinese Curse or an excuse to Pop Corn)

TT

PS The Media Investigates, Reports and Publishes at an Eighth Grade level, they are never to be believed.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 3:56:19 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: DeaconRed

Fox is parroting the other media outlets. It accepts the official explanation for Petraeus’ departure without question. Fox no longer has the balls to conduct any kind of extensive investigation into anything involving this administration.

Makes me wonder what the Obama thugs have on Fox News.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 3:56:38 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: advance_copy

I don’t see what the fuss is all about, except that it is agenda-driven. Petraeus is merely a general. Remember how gently the media and most of congress treated the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF Bill Clinton for his disgusting behavior? We know that General Eisenhower had a little something going on with his driver. We know JFK, and FDR were not faithful to their spouse either...yet they are revered. Why is the media, including FOX, yammering on about Petraeus, unless it is to degrade his reputation and his potential testimony?


26 posted on 11/10/2012 3:58:32 AM PST by ryderann
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To: F15Eagle; All

Doesn’t really matter... Dear Leader & his team can not do anything wrong. Pravda will cover for him and most Americans are no longer Americans. God help this country.


27 posted on 11/10/2012 4:09:12 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Could it be that our military leaders are getting sick and tired about this “Thing” who calls himself our leader but has no balls or conscience and tries to run this country into the ground. Only about a handful of retired generals approved of this “Thing” and over fifty had an unfavorable opinion of him. May be something is brewing and some one wants to right the wrong of having one of our ambassadors sodomized, dragged around the streets all bloodied up before they blew his brains out, along with killing several other of our braves. Perhaps there is still honor amongst our military where there is none in the W. H. and things have gone just a little too far. This may be just the final straw what could break the camels back. I may be wrong but I would place my bet on David Petraeus that he has more honor than the whole bunch in Washington put together and will do the honorable thing and the life’s lost will not be in vain just to suit an unscrupulous politician to further his aim. Besides if he happens to do the wrong thing he will have to live the rest of his life being despised and shunned by his peers who still consider honor to be a virtue.


28 posted on 11/10/2012 4:09:38 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: nikos1121

William Colby.

Vince Foster.

P won’t be testifying about anything—this is Washington DC, murder capital of the world.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 4:22:03 AM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: F15Eagle
For many years I held to the theory that, being born in 1948 I had a pretty good viewpoint of my generation and the Viet Nam cleansing.

I used the word 'cleansing' because, once I learned about Macnamara and the administrations that had oversight of Viet Nam, I came to the conclusion that we post WW2 males were just educated enough to be a serious threat and danger to a blossoming effort to sieze control of America.

Later in life I analyzed the seemingly senseless loss of life both military and civilian and I concluded, with the help of a lot of protective tin foil, that there was a plot to kill off men that could potentially take the control of a major enterprize.

Along comes John Lenon and "a working class hero" keeping doped with religion and sex and TV and .... we ll ... I was ready for war or the loony bin.

Then I married.

fast forward 15 or so years and I see a geographical area being used to stage war and a lot of young men (granted, not as many as in VN), either dieing or coming home and committing suicide (at least that is what I'm told)

They have rules of engagement that .. surprise !! .. do not include engagement of the enemy.

I might come home, listen/watch radio and TV, get on the internet and discover (among others) FreeRepublic and decide I was crazy ... and eat lead.


OK .. that's the basic theory


As a student of American history, I know that at one time if a man thought he had been wronged or knew he was being done wrong, there was no hesitancy in taking matters into his own hands and hurting or killing whomever was believed to be the harmer.

I'm not condoning retribution, but I AM wondering why boys don't learn to punch another boy because of ... whatever

Young bucks don't NEED a miffed ideology to flex their muscles ... they are cocked springs waiting for release.


OK ... Patreus;

He, as SO many other grown men, has been involved in a life structure that ... doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

What makes a successful general anyway?

I kept more of my men from killing the enemy than any other general ??

Whether he was set up or not, it doesn't matter what happened but what WILL happen.

Has he been SO conditioned to not fight that he won't?

Has he accepted the theory as fact that there IS a power that kills off intelligent men to prevent they're ever coming to power?

(Alan West)

Isaiah 3 speaks of the mighty man and eloquent man, the captain of many no longer on the scene (they weren't 'taken out' ... they just no longer ARE), and in their place are women and children.


WaS I crazy in the 60's to think that there was a conspiracy to kill off middle class, educated young men to prevent their ever coming to power?

I call on Gen. Patreus to expose what he knows before he dies (figuratively or literally)

Somehow .. I just can't accept that I'm crazy.


(I've done my best to compose without sounding like I'm rambling, but after reading this before posting, I think I'd better not try to make writing an income producing endeaver ... I'll starve to death )

30 posted on 11/10/2012 4:30:16 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: nikos1121

Anyone signing up for military service under this “CIC” is crazy.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 4:31:24 AM PST by FES0844
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To: advance_copy

Isn’t it ironic that he comes clean so that he cannot be blackmailed and the person trying to blackmail him is the president...?


32 posted on 11/10/2012 4:31:31 AM PST by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: zwerni

His wife worked for Elizabeth Warren ... I’d say he’s never been a good judge of women.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 4:35:22 AM PST by pithyinme (Smiling Joe Biden... too dumb to sell used cars ... to lazy to steal them.)
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To: Earthdweller

Right. And the Benghazi attack was caused by a Youtube video which had only 18 views!


34 posted on 11/10/2012 4:37:09 AM PST by greenhornet68
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To: DeaconRed
"We can’t get any truth."

AMEN I don't trust even FOX anymore. . . .

What, you mean you don't like Geraldo Rivera, Shep Smith and Bob Beckel giving you their versions of "fair and balanced"?

If Fox News Channel was truly fair and balanced, they'd get rid of those slimeballs and many more. The balance then would be when they are weighed against the Mouthpiece Media.

35 posted on 11/10/2012 4:44:19 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Casie
"The one and only thing I feel confident about right now is my supply of ammo."

10-4
I started buying precious metals a while back OK 4 years ago to be exact. When the community organizer got in.
Gold, Silver Platinum? No much more precious than that.
LEAD, COPPER & BRASS sitting on or surrounded by some fine gunpowder. . . .

36 posted on 11/10/2012 4:45:00 AM PST by DeaconRed (Don't Blame Me I voted for the White Boy. . . . . .)
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To: advance_copy

A four star General....becomes involved in a petty relationship with a journalist....

Petraeus graduated from West Point in 1974. He earned the General George C. Marshall Award as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

He subsequently earned an M.P.A. in 1985 and a Ph.D. degree in international relations in 1987 from Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, then served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the U.S. Military Academy from 1985 to 1987.

His doctoral dissertation was entitled “The American Military and the Lessons of Vietnam: A Study of Military Influence and the Use of Force in the Post-Vietnam Era”.[28] He also completed a military fellowship at Georgetown University’s Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1994–1995, although he was called away early to serve in Haiti as the Chief of Operations for the UN force there in early 1995.[


37 posted on 11/10/2012 4:48:55 AM PST by B212
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To: EBH

There were 500 senior officers who were publicly opposed to Obama. Petreaus may now have joined their ranks.

The President may now have a price on his head not placed there by Al Qeada


38 posted on 11/10/2012 4:50:13 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: advance_copy

“Could it be he is sitting on stuff that would tempt some in ccongress to consider the president’s impeachment — and Obama knows it?”

We’ll know for sure when he turns up dead from either
suicide or heart attack.


39 posted on 11/10/2012 4:50:50 AM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: advance_copy
“Being ordered to testify would technically allow him to remain loyal to Obama and his oaths as a military officer.”

That sentence bothers me. Loyalty to a President? Not the Constitution? Not the nation? That is the stuff dictatorships are made of.

40 posted on 11/10/2012 5:02:54 AM PST by Tupelo (Republican, a national party no more.)
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To: granada
America is in a dark age now. media is not media any more. We can’t get any truth.

For the past 40+ years the media has not been about facts and truth. The MSM has been about finding different ways to suppress reality. To create agenda's. However, this THING called the internet has demolished all that for thinking people. Yes, it's dark now, a storm is coming but we will survive and America will be strong again. No one ever said life is fair...Obama, the anti-capitalist, anti-American and his ilk just try to put up the mirage it should be. Look at my tagline.

41 posted on 11/10/2012 5:06:28 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: advance_copy

Hmm. What if his wife gets hold of the sword?


42 posted on 11/10/2012 5:09:54 AM PST by Morris70
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To: pepsionice

One way for people to communicate with each other through email without actually sending an email is to share the same email account, log in and leave their messages in a mail folder. This lowers the chance of any email being intercepted if someone had the account flagged. It could very well have been that Petraeus gave her his username and password and that she didn’t hack into the account at all. They were able to communicate with each other by email by logging in and leaving a message without actually sending the message.


43 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:33 AM PST by Wiggins
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To: advance_copy
“Could people in DC/Chicago be thinking that he cannot testify about CIA without that agency first approving what he has to say? That would be false comfort for any who might believe this resignation will force the General to be silent.”

My guess is that Bronco Bamma has had the FBI ( Eric the Holder runs that) digging dirt on anyone in the Regime that could expose him for years.

When it looked like the General might testify they sprung the affair on him so he would have to resign.

Now if it looks like he still might testify we will read about how he committed suicide due to his shame over the affair.

44 posted on 11/10/2012 5:14:32 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: nikos1121

I’m thinking your scenario is a strong possibility. Now that Petraeus “manned up” and came clean he now has nothing to lose by spilling the beans about Benghazi. The truth really does set you free.


45 posted on 11/10/2012 5:15:25 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Venturer
And if by some miracle he is impeached, there in no chance in Hades of getting the senate to convict.


46 posted on 11/10/2012 5:15:29 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: All

History will be judging America much like look in wonder at how and why the Nazi party took hold in Germany and were “allowed” to get away with the Night of the Long Knives.


47 posted on 11/10/2012 5:16:50 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: B212

The woman in question is very believable as the partner in an affair. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but I feel it is as possible that this is a ruse, if the affair happened or not.


48 posted on 11/10/2012 5:17:12 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Cricket24

Well, as much as I want him to testify to the TRUTH, I also do not have pity. He made a deal with Satan by working for Obama. Let him live with the consequences.


49 posted on 11/10/2012 5:18:17 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: advance_copy
I believe he was set up...60 is a little old for an affair of this nature.

I believe he resigned so he could TELL THE TRUTH. Remember, a few days back (before the election) he said it was NOT the CIA who gave the Stand Down order.

50 posted on 11/10/2012 5:21:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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