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HOW FAR ARE WE WILLING TO GO? I SAY, LETS JUMP OFF THE CLIFF!
Cooking With Chef Carlo ^ | Carlo3b, Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:27 AM PST by carlo3b

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To: gonzo; no-to-illegals; Lazamataz; Peter W. Kessler; M Kehoe

With only the House in the Congress, and the Obamites controlling the other two law making powers, we can’t correct anything that will improve our prospects for the future..

We also know that just playing the defense, will make us the scapegoats in the eyes of the voting public, and the reason for a continuing decline of our economy..

We should also recognize that Obama will continue to impose laws, disguised as Executive orders, to continue his diabolical march to compete Socialism.. Lowering the Middle class toward poverty, and getting them to accept reducing their standards to Government subsistence, we grow deeper into irrelevance..

Shortly, they won’t need to resort to cheating to win, the takers will be so disenfranchised they’ll vote to keep their perks coming in..

The only alliterative is to take the HIT now, while we are early in this cycle to stop this plan by cutting of the funds that they need to stay on course into our oblivion..

With this culture’s short term memory, thanks to their own plans, we can hope that they will be reeling from the collapse, and recovery, that we won’t loose too bad in two years..

One thing is certain, if we force a reduction in the government machine they too will loose their advantage, and the course will have to get better for the future..


101 posted on 11/11/2012 6:28:59 PM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: carlo3b; no-to-illegals; Lazamataz; Peter W. Kessler; M Kehoe
"...The only alternative is to take the HIT now, while we are early in this cycle - to stop this plan by cutting off the funds that they need to stay on course into our oblivion..."

I'm of another mind, Carlo. I want all Republican Congresscritters and Senators to vote 'Present' on ALL legislation - EVERYTHING, that's proposed by the Demoncrats from now until the 2014 elections, if we have any elections, that is.

Make the democrats responsible for ALL their goofy ideas!

By doing this, debt will explode, and our world-wide-system will collapse into a world-wide Depression.

If we just try to shut down the gummint by not voting for the funds that they need to stay on course into our oblivion, we cut off SS checks, Veterans Benefits, etc, and the $hit still hits the fan in a year or so anyway.

I SAY, LET'S JUMP OFF THE CLIFF, AND TAKE THE BASTARDS WITH US!!! ............................................................... FRegards

102 posted on 11/11/2012 8:37:44 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gonzo

We are both saying the same thing Gonz, but yours, although a much less dramatic, may come later than a couple of years of borrowing and imbedded restrictions, it may become unrecoverable.. As the Left is spending us into the abyss, the general public will be getting more and more perks, that once introduced, become irremovable..

I don’t disagree with you, I’ve got a few apprehensions about allowing this gang to find ways of digging us so deep into the financial, and restrictive holes as the public feeling things are working fine, it may be too late..


103 posted on 11/11/2012 9:16:53 PM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: gonzo; no-to-illegals; Lazamataz; Peter W. Kessler; M Kehoe

Ok, let me give you an example of why I am so dug in with my paranoia.. In the early 70’s when I was just trotting along with a fast growing business, I tried to introduce a bonus plan for my employees..

At the time we were still small enough that all of my locations were local, meaning in Texas, most in Houston, so we held an annual meeting.. At one of the meeting I asked if the group wanted an annual bonus, dependent on profits, or a tenured raise.. I explained that we had planned expansions and that would bring in much more revenue, but major expenses, and RISKS..

The vote was almost unanimous, except for the accounting dept.. They chose the BONUSES.. Well, bring on Carter, and gas lines, and high interest rates and slower economy, so the bonuses were reduced to a fraction of the past.. They almost walked off the job, and none of them were happy..

I discovered that once you give someone a gift, and they learn to expect it, even though you can no longer afford it you can’t ever take it back.. NEVER!

Those that were disgruntled kept everyone stirred up until they left or were fired.. None of them improved their position by leaving, and they didn’t appreciate my position until they worked elsewhere.. I hated to fire so many, but it kept the company viable for 20 more years until I retired..

After that fiasco, I always did what was the more prudent method to set financial as well as payroll decisions..


104 posted on 11/11/2012 9:47:38 PM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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Good morning. Good thread/discussion.

Methinks the fat lady is going to sing. When, I don't know. A Romney win may have slowed it down, but Congress makes the laws, and the senate is now 55-45 Rat.

An old saying is to think globally, and act locally. Time to prepare. Get your stores in order, logistics, commo, and do some training (i.e. physical, range, etc.).

Unfortunately, we don't have much time.

5.56mm

105 posted on 11/12/2012 4:38:23 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe; gonzo; no-to-illegals; Lazamataz; Peter W. Kessler
Methinks the fat lady is going to sing. When, I don't know. A Romney win may have slowed it down, but Congress makes the laws, and the senate is now 55-45 Rat. An old saying is to think globally, and act locally. Time to prepare. Get your stores in order, logistics, commo, and do some training (i.e. physical, range, etc.). Unfortunately, we don't have much time.

All good points indeed, and all TRUE.. What say the others.. Carlo

106 posted on 11/12/2012 7:08:53 AM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: carlo3b
Am supplied with some supplies. Children are ready, along with grandchildren. Too old to participate for any length of time if it all goes to heck in a hand-basket. Good Luck to each of you and your families.
107 posted on 11/12/2012 1:14:32 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: carlo3b
I agree.
And stop the next "debt ceiling increase", too.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
…… Senator Barack Obama (2006)

108 posted on 11/12/2012 1:21:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: txnativegop

“Another Great Depression does not sound too good. Such circumstances have historically strengthened the radical, political left...”

Good point. I think that the crash of 2008 was rigged by the powers behind Obama (Soros, etc.) to help him get elected. And as we saw with Storm Sandy, large disasters are seen by many as only being able to be fixed by larger government.

Although I suppose after 100 years of living under a larger and larger, and more repressive government - the sheeple would rise up. Of course it would be like the U.S.S.R. probably, and they would fall back into their old habits.


109 posted on 11/12/2012 1:34:51 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve

What you have said brings to mind the decline of the
Roman Empire. Its citizens eventually became consumed
by selfish wants and desires.

A depressing thought to be sure.


110 posted on 11/12/2012 6:37:26 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

“Its citizens eventually became consumed
by selfish wants and desires.”

See my tagline. :(


111 posted on 11/12/2012 7:39:12 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: carlo3b; M Kehoe; no-to-illegals; Lazamataz; Peter W. Kessler

Stores in order, and I follow my own tag.

I’ll get my measure off, and then some ..................................................... FRegards


112 posted on 11/12/2012 11:32:50 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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