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Frum: Republicans 'Fleeced, Exploited And Lied To' By 'Conservative Entertainment Complex'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 11/09/2012 7:29:33 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

David Frum blames the media for Mitt Romney's loss. Not the liberal media, of course--we are talking David Frum, after all. No, Frum blames the conservative media, or as he calls it, "the conservative entertainment complex."

Frum touted his upside-down take on the media during a Morning Joe appearance today while promoting his instant e-book, "Why Romney Lost." Joe Scarborough liked the line so much he asked Frum to repeat it. Frum refused to name names, saying he does so in his book, but there's little doubt whom he was targeting.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativemedia; davidfrum; morningjoe; msm

1 posted on 11/09/2012 7:29:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

David Frum thinks the media problem is with the CONSERVATIVE media! Engine-starter ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:28 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

David Frum thinks the media problem is with the CONSERVATIVE media! Engine-starter ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 7:32:10 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Frum is a nimrod, I’ll grant you.

But is he right here?

Rush, you’ll recall, DID NOT predict victory...he was quite realistic about what was happening, IIRC.

But Hannity with Cunnningham? Come on.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 7:33:49 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Unlike you commmunist traitors Mr Frum, we Conservatives are a thinking lot and we see the lies of your machine. FOAD jerkwad!

LLS


5 posted on 11/09/2012 7:34:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The only thing that the conservative media was to yell and scream to not pay attention to those polls. And what made that even worse was conservative media saying that Romney was going to win Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and had a chance for Michigan. The conservatives were probably thrilled and thought oh great why vote? Romney, Ryan and conservative media say we won this already. HUGE MISTAKE to be so sure of themselves. I am sure because of that, we can gather why 3 million stayed home.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 7:35:49 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Frum wants to be a Democrat, but keep the Republican name.

Just let it go, everybody knows you’re not a conservative David.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 7:36:05 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: LibLieSlayer

+2!


8 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:33 AM PST by sauropod (For Barack so loved the poor, he created millions more of them.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The lies of the gop/e are just the end of the treason the committed against Conservatives.

LLS

9 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Another homosexual simply seeking his opponent’s destruction by adding false narratives in an ongoing effort to confuse and add to the darkness.

Go away Frum and enjoy your own slide into self debasement.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:53 AM PST by Obadiah (Americans lusted for Obama. Give them Obama! Everything he Constitutionally asks for.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hannity has just stated that he has ‘evolved’ on amnesty for illegals. I always knew he was a Bush-GOPe toady. He confirmed it.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 7:40:12 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And some particularly pathetic FReepers are happily going right along with Frum on this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2957178/posts?page=50#50


12 posted on 11/09/2012 7:40:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well Rush was right. You can’t beat Santa Claus. As long as half the country wants government to take care of them our country is doomed. Frum is a media diva who wants to stay connected with the establishment and the Washington D.C./NYC party circuit and what better way to do that than bash conservative talk radio and TV. The guy’s a wimp.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 7:42:21 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Bullsh*t....

Lots of establishment Republicans are angry that “Conservative Media” kept the Republicans from competing with the Democrats on who could give away the most FREE SCHIT!!!

That we must embrace illegals, and offer MORE freebies to the handouts crowd, if we hope to win.

Remember what happened to Gingrich way back when. The Repubs that ousted him wanted to create the exact same shadow system that the Dems have.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 7:43:30 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The only conservative pundits worth a damn are Rush and Dennis Praeger.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 7:45:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: SoFloFreeper

From back in the days when telling the truth wasn’t considered committing blaspheme.

Rush: Romney is winning like a liberal

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2853480/posts

He won primaries in places that he wouldn’t win in the general while ignoring the very people he needed most.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 7:45:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
OK, I'll give Ole David this one and we'll all just step out of the way and let Obama have whatever he wants. Obama wants higher taxes so we'll make sure he gets ALL the higher taxes he wants from EVERYONE!
17 posted on 11/09/2012 7:45:48 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There is no conservative media! There’s a handful of radio talk show hosts and the occasional TV personality that is conservative, but that’s all. The vast majority of the media is a bought-and-paid-for wing of the DNC.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 7:46:28 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: meyer

19 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:09 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The guy makes a living. He has a niche as a CHARLATAN, ie, a DemonRAT maquerading as a conservative. They love to hear his twisted, inside-out logic confirm their own convictions. Same category as David Brooks.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:25 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There was “conservative media” all over the place telling, pleading with Romney to be tough and bring up Bengahzi, Obama’s illegal executive proclamations, obama’s czars, obama’s associations, obama’s corrupt connections, his ties to Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright—but Roms didn’t listen and went down the same nice-guy path that McCain did. So Frum is an idiot to BLAME conservative media. This is all spin to keep the same meme going and to try to tear down conservatism even further.

Mitt’s a good, nice guy, but if you’re not willing to fight fire with fire, well, you’re not going to do anyone any good.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:28 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is absurd.

I’m tired of all the finger pointing.

There are multiple reasons why Romney lost, and placing blame on any particular entity is stupid.

1) Romney was a terrible candidate. He couldn’t even win primaries in 2008. It took him six years and untold millions of dollars to get the nomination. He had a hard time even buying votes.

2) A lot of thumb-sucking narcissistic voters sat at home because they won’t vote for an imperfect candidate and opted to let realists do what they could to depose Obama. They watched, and we couldn’t do the job without their help.

Duct tape over the mouths of anyone who abstained or who voted third party. They have lost the right to gripe for four years, because THEY are a big part of the problem.

3) And, finally, the real blame lies on the backs of the majority of U S voters who are too stupid to do simple math. They think and -2 + -2 = 4 and that if you continue to add -2s, we’ll all be better off. Too many voters have become leeches, and they have voted us into bankruptcy and financial ruin.

I know some of these idiots, and you do, too. They think only of themselves, if they think at all. And that is the sad reality of the mess we are in.

I’m getting ready to ride it out. At this point, maybe we have to crash and burn and rebuild. Some people, a majority of Americans, are incapable of rational thought and have to learn the hard way.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:28 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

McCain, 2008 popular vote: 58,319,442

Romney, 2012 popular vote: 58,163,978

4 years of population growth and Romney didn’t draw what McCain did......


23 posted on 11/09/2012 7:53:43 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: dowcaet
Well Rush was right. You can’t beat Santa Claus...
Frum is a media diva who wants to stay connected
with the establishment and the Wash. D.C./NYC
party circuit..The guy’s a wimp.
add to (seemingly) that Karl Rove...its only a meal ticket / no beliefs...
Way too much (stuffed-shirt) "triangulation" mentality...not enough flyover country.

24 posted on 11/09/2012 7:58:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR 8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Agreed, and throw Dick Morris into that group too.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 8:06:15 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

EXACTLY correct. I am absolutely 100% done with Fox, Rush, pundits of all shades and colors. And they keep trying to play us. Granted, I haven’t been much of a “news entertainment” fan anyway, but we have been their patsy long enough. Their pollsters were also dead last this time.

Time for us to stop being lemmings.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 8:08:36 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mark Cuban has a blog post up saying pretty much the same thing. Fox (which has the largest audience in news) fired up the liberal base for two weeks going into the election by saying The Messiah was going to lose. The well timed “revenge” comment was just the icing on the cake. Cuban also argues indys broke to the underdog (obama) because Americans like the underdog.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 8:18:39 AM PST by lwd
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I may not accept Frum’s reason for blaming Conservative media for Romney’s loss.

That does not mean there are not other reasons, other issues to blame Conservative media for.

Did we not receive here in this venue all the glowing polls and glowing opinions of the polls and harsh conservative critques about the “bad polls” from all over Conservative media??? And which reports were correct; the ones we were sold as he ones to believe, or the ones we were told were all wet?

What suppressed Conservative turnout more? [remember who Conservatives were and were not listening to] Was it the polls and reports that made Conservative voters feel over confident, or the polls and reports that could have made Conservative voters angry, anxious and hungry to prove the bad polls wrong?

You tell me, among the media, who depressed GOP turnout most; to the extent that anyone in any media had a hand in it; the media that Conservatives were not listening to, or the media they were listening to?

Myself, I have never, ever, ever liked over-confident polls and always felt they made the weakest supporters lazy. Remember the distance between the Obama victory [50.1%] and Romney’s loss [49.9%] in Ohio would have been just 0.2% of the voters.

I have often repeated here since Wednesday that it is Romney and his inner circle that needs to look at themselves in the mirror and tell all the pundits making scapegoats for Romney’s loss to folks outside his inner circle to just shut up.

“Conservative media” better start doing the same, and in this case don’t completely reject the message because we don’t like the messenger or his particular reasoning.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 8:31:19 AM PST by Wuli
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Shadow44
David Frum is a Canadian, who went to Yale, and staid over.

He played a part in some of George W. Bush's worst policy errors, as a speech writer. He was an outrageous self-promoter, by all accounts, in College, and has continued as such ever since.

This is not the first, second or even umpteenth time that he has seen fit to arrogantly lecture genuine American Conservatives on their beliefs & tactics. He does not have the intelligence to understand why this is inappropriate in someone claiming to be a Conservative, from another land, here only by our sufferance.

Contrast this Yale upstart with the genuinely Conservative, self-made billionaire from Hungary, who spent an enormous amount of his own money, in the campaign just ended, running very fine minute long TV spots, which offered a real glimpse of the underlying reality.

Further as to Frum, here is a little attempt at humor on that subject, from a few years back: Frum To Haiti Project.

William Flax

29 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:57 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Frump gets high-fives from Joe Scarborough and the Morning Joe crew!


30 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:23 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In a way he's right. Rush kicked off the "war on women" by attacking Fluke as a "slut." He turned her into a cause celeb. It was an unforced error. As a professional with decades of experience he KNEW better.

Add in the 'Tea Party' pushed morons Akin and Mourdock and it was all wrapped neatly in a bow for Obama.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What do other staunch conservatives like Andrew Sullivan, Meghan McCain, Arianna Huffington, Christopher Buckley and Lindsey Graham think?


32 posted on 11/09/2012 10:49:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: newzjunkey

C’mon, that silly fake war on women gig started at one of the primary debates where the question was tossed to Romney by lil georgie s. The entire meme was already layed out and ready to roll.

It’s silly to try and lay blame on anyone who called sandy a slut, guess truth really is gone these days huh?!

Everything is in chaos now, and all by design.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 11:57:28 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: newzjunkey
Add in the 'Tea Party' pushed morons Akin and Mourdock and it was all wrapped neatly in a bow for Obama.
Mourdock was ineptly made, but his comment was nowhere near Akin's. Akin was not a Tea Party anything. HGe won a three-way primary with Tea Party groups supporting his opponents. Stop spreading liberal lies.
34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:17:25 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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