David Frum thinks the media problem is with the CONSERVATIVE media! Engine-starter ping to Today show list.
David Frum thinks the media problem is with the CONSERVATIVE media! Engine-starter ping to Today show list.
Frum is a nimrod, I’ll grant you.
But is he right here?
Rush, you’ll recall, DID NOT predict victory...he was quite realistic about what was happening, IIRC.
But Hannity with Cunnningham? Come on.
Unlike you commmunist traitors Mr Frum, we Conservatives are a thinking lot and we see the lies of your machine. FOAD jerkwad!
LLS
Frum wants to be a Democrat, but keep the Republican name.
Just let it go, everybody knows you’re not a conservative David.
Another homosexual simply seeking his opponent’s destruction by adding false narratives in an ongoing effort to confuse and add to the darkness.
Go away Frum and enjoy your own slide into self debasement.
And some particularly pathetic FReepers are happily going right along with Frum on this one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2957178/posts?page=50#50
Well Rush was right. You can’t beat Santa Claus. As long as half the country wants government to take care of them our country is doomed. Frum is a media diva who wants to stay connected with the establishment and the Washington D.C./NYC party circuit and what better way to do that than bash conservative talk radio and TV. The guy’s a wimp.
Bullsh*t....
Lots of establishment Republicans are angry that “Conservative Media” kept the Republicans from competing with the Democrats on who could give away the most FREE SCHIT!!!
That we must embrace illegals, and offer MORE freebies to the handouts crowd, if we hope to win.
Remember what happened to Gingrich way back when. The Repubs that ousted him wanted to create the exact same shadow system that the Dems have.
The only conservative pundits worth a damn are Rush and Dennis Praeger.
There is no conservative media! There’s a handful of radio talk show hosts and the occasional TV personality that is conservative, but that’s all. The vast majority of the media is a bought-and-paid-for wing of the DNC.
The guy makes a living. He has a niche as a CHARLATAN, ie, a DemonRAT maquerading as a conservative. They love to hear his twisted, inside-out logic confirm their own convictions. Same category as David Brooks.
There was “conservative media” all over the place telling, pleading with Romney to be tough and bring up Bengahzi, Obama’s illegal executive proclamations, obama’s czars, obama’s associations, obama’s corrupt connections, his ties to Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright—but Roms didn’t listen and went down the same nice-guy path that McCain did. So Frum is an idiot to BLAME conservative media. This is all spin to keep the same meme going and to try to tear down conservatism even further.
Mitt’s a good, nice guy, but if you’re not willing to fight fire with fire, well, you’re not going to do anyone any good.
This is absurd.
I’m tired of all the finger pointing.
There are multiple reasons why Romney lost, and placing blame on any particular entity is stupid.
1) Romney was a terrible candidate. He couldn’t even win primaries in 2008. It took him six years and untold millions of dollars to get the nomination. He had a hard time even buying votes.
2) A lot of thumb-sucking narcissistic voters sat at home because they won’t vote for an imperfect candidate and opted to let realists do what they could to depose Obama. They watched, and we couldn’t do the job without their help.
Duct tape over the mouths of anyone who abstained or who voted third party. They have lost the right to gripe for four years, because THEY are a big part of the problem.
3) And, finally, the real blame lies on the backs of the majority of U S voters who are too stupid to do simple math. They think and -2 + -2 = 4 and that if you continue to add -2s, we’ll all be better off. Too many voters have become leeches, and they have voted us into bankruptcy and financial ruin.
I know some of these idiots, and you do, too. They think only of themselves, if they think at all. And that is the sad reality of the mess we are in.
I’m getting ready to ride it out. At this point, maybe we have to crash and burn and rebuild. Some people, a majority of Americans, are incapable of rational thought and have to learn the hard way.
EXACTLY correct. I am absolutely 100% done with Fox, Rush, pundits of all shades and colors. And they keep trying to play us. Granted, I haven’t been much of a “news entertainment” fan anyway, but we have been their patsy long enough. Their pollsters were also dead last this time.
Time for us to stop being lemmings.
Mark Cuban has a blog post up saying pretty much the same thing. Fox (which has the largest audience in news) fired up the liberal base for two weeks going into the election by saying The Messiah was going to lose. The well timed “revenge” comment was just the icing on the cake. Cuban also argues indys broke to the underdog (obama) because Americans like the underdog.
I may not accept Frum’s reason for blaming Conservative media for Romney’s loss.
That does not mean there are not other reasons, other issues to blame Conservative media for.
Did we not receive here in this venue all the glowing polls and glowing opinions of the polls and harsh conservative critques about the “bad polls” from all over Conservative media??? And which reports were correct; the ones we were sold as he ones to believe, or the ones we were told were all wet?
What suppressed Conservative turnout more? [remember who Conservatives were and were not listening to] Was it the polls and reports that made Conservative voters feel over confident, or the polls and reports that could have made Conservative voters angry, anxious and hungry to prove the bad polls wrong?
You tell me, among the media, who depressed GOP turnout most; to the extent that anyone in any media had a hand in it; the media that Conservatives were not listening to, or the media they were listening to?
Myself, I have never, ever, ever liked over-confident polls and always felt they made the weakest supporters lazy. Remember the distance between the Obama victory [50.1%] and Romney’s loss [49.9%] in Ohio would have been just 0.2% of the voters.
I have often repeated here since Wednesday that it is Romney and his inner circle that needs to look at themselves in the mirror and tell all the pundits making scapegoats for Romney’s loss to folks outside his inner circle to just shut up.
“Conservative media” better start doing the same, and in this case don’t completely reject the message because we don’t like the messenger or his particular reasoning.
He played a part in some of George W. Bush's worst policy errors, as a speech writer. He was an outrageous self-promoter, by all accounts, in College, and has continued as such ever since.
This is not the first, second or even umpteenth time that he has seen fit to arrogantly lecture genuine American Conservatives on their beliefs & tactics. He does not have the intelligence to understand why this is inappropriate in someone claiming to be a Conservative, from another land, here only by our sufferance.
Contrast this Yale upstart with the genuinely Conservative, self-made billionaire from Hungary, who spent an enormous amount of his own money, in the campaign just ended, running very fine minute long TV spots, which offered a real glimpse of the underlying reality.
Further as to Frum, here is a little attempt at humor on that subject, from a few years back: Frum To Haiti Project.
William Flax
Frump gets high-fives from Joe Scarborough and the Morning Joe crew!