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Is Bachman the reason for Obama's 2nd Term? (vanity)

Posted on 11/08/2012 5:50:34 PM PST by indianrightwinger

Would we have had a mid-western son of a milk truck driver (Pawlenty) as our nominee has she not surged up until Ames Straw poll?

I am trying to trace down to the seed that germinated into re-electing Obama. That is the closest I have come. During this cycle, a more modestly wealthy mid-western governor of a Blue state may just have been the ticket.

Thoughts?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachman; bachmann; pawlenty; romney; vanity
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1 posted on 11/08/2012 5:50:39 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

I think that’s a stretch.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 5:52:01 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: indianrightwinger

Oh my god.. WE LOST BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THAN US. Stop blaming individual people.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 5:52:33 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: indianrightwinger

Whoever would have been nominated would have been subject to the same negative ad assault. The fact that Pawlenty meekly dropped out in response to Bachmann’s slings shows that he would not have been able to survive the Chicago machine’s negative assault.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:00 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: indianrightwinger

Face forward and get on with it.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:00 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: Hildy

No, we didn’t lose because of that. Obama lost 9 million votes from 08 total. We lost for other reasons - but no, Pawlenty would have run a worse campaign than Mitt, so he is not the answer.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:38 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WFT: How Karl Rove and the Consultant Class Have Destroyed America")
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To: indianrightwinger

Vain in deed. Craziest thing I’ve heard here. Ridiculous. Do you stay up at night dreaming this stuff up?


7 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:55 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: indianrightwinger

No.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:55 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I think it’s more that the GOP allows open primaries. How in the world can the GOP select a candidate when non-GOP people are voting in RINO’s to make it easier for the dems to win later down the road.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:10 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: indianrightwinger

Romney was miles Better than pawlenty. He is awful. At the very least awfully boring.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:10 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: indianrightwinger

If Michele Bachamann had been the nominee instead of a radical liberal like Romney, then we would have beat Obama. Michele Bachmann was the only one who told the truth about Obama. We COULD have gotten rid of Obamacare with Michele Bachmann but voters are STUPID.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:23 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: indianrightwinger

Yeah, “T-Paw” was the answer. /s


12 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:57 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Hildy

No we lost because 3 million of us stayed home.

Then there are the ones that voted third party..

There is the problem identified. There are not more of them than there are of us. They simply got more of their group to the polls (living/voting twice/dead vote) than we did.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:57 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: indianrightwinger
No Bachmann’s not the reason. The real reason is the POS “Patriots” who stayed home to protest Romney. Thank you A$$holes!
14 posted on 11/08/2012 5:56:45 PM PST by Artcore
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To: indianrightwinger

Oh my god.. WE LOST BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THAN US. Stop blaming individual people.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 5:56:58 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: napscoordinator

“If Michele Bachamann had been the nominee instead of a radical liberal like Romney, then we would have beat Obama. Michele Bachmann was the only one who told the truth about Obama. We COULD have gotten rid of Obamacare with Michele Bachmann but voters are STUPID.”

No, she’d be bogged down, Akin-style, over stupid comments such as Gardasil.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 5:59:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: indianrightwinger

Oh, for Pete’s sake.........”WE” lost because parasites, socialists and braindead Rat voters outnumber thinking self-responsible Americans. The next four Obama years will be focused on increasing the number of parasites to further build the Rat base.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:12 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Artcore

“No Bachmann’s not the reason. The real reason is the POS “Patriots” who stayed home to protest Romney. Thank you A$$holes!”

Maybe they really wanted their free obamaphones but didn’t want to come out and admit it.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: indianrightwinger

Another stupid vanity.

Sheeeesh.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:35 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: indianrightwinger

I think Calvin Coolidge is to blame.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:49 PM PST by albie
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To: ConservativeMan55

I blame the OP on moonshine


21 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: indianrightwinger

Let’s put the blame where it belongs. Many Christians didn’t vote and on the numb-nuts who believed Zero’s BS!


22 posted on 11/08/2012 6:03:06 PM PST by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: indianrightwinger

Haha some patient was watching the Today show while waiting to be called back for his lab work. He started complaining about Bachman winning and how nutty she was. He asked how could she win again. I told him well sir the democrats ran someone even nuttier. Haha you could have heard a pin drop. He was very polite in the drawing chair.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 6:03:53 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: indianrightwinger
   All of the conservatives were savagely attacked in the press (mostly Palin, Gingrich, Bachmann and Cain) . I think Romney is the candidate that the media and the Democrats wanted. I think the other side picked our candidate.

  The Romney campaign and the RNC also seemed to be the same organization. It was going to be very difficult for any conservative to be nominated.
24 posted on 11/08/2012 6:04:04 PM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Top Reasons Romney Lost:

The broadcast TV media spiked the Benghazi betrayal, lies and cover-up. It was all about Sandy.

Much of the GOP base stayed home. (Evangelicals rejected a Mormon.)

Romney was right about 47% of people voting to keep their entitlements.

Racists voted based purely on skin color.

Romney’s temperment is ill-suited to the attacks Obama so richly deserved.
(So who was that running in the primaries? go figure)

No one with any gravitas would stand up for the Constitution and properly vet Obama’s eligibility as a natural born citizen.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 6:04:15 PM PST by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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Puhleze, all attacks on conservatives were from
RINO Romney and spoiler Rove.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 6:04:15 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: indianrightwinger
Did anybody else listen to Rush today and hear that “Patriot” who decided to not vote for Romney in protest? This dumb-sh*t was spinning all over the place trying to defend his absolutely idiotic reasons for helping a known Marxist win a second terms.

What a selfish, self serving prick!

27 posted on 11/08/2012 6:04:47 PM PST by Artcore
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To: cableguymn

Spot on


28 posted on 11/08/2012 6:05:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: indianrightwinger

We lost the popular vote in 1992. We lost the popular vote in 1996. We lost the popular vote in 2000. We lost the popular vote in 2008. We lost the popular vote in 2012. If you’re old enough to drink then you’ve seen exactly one election where more people voted for the R than the d. This has nothing to do with Michele friggin Bachman. It has to do with the homofication of America, the population explosion of the takers vs the makers, the rise of the atheist, the pervasive liberal media, the liberal educators who pollute the minds of the most vulnerable with evolution and global warming, the death of American Exceptionalism, and the desire of so-called Americans to take from those who achieve the America Dream. It if were ever time for Jesus to return, it is most certainly now.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 6:08:39 PM PST by SAR
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To: indianrightwinger

Imagine losing a chess match because you started short 1 queen, 2 bishops, two rooks, and a knight ... and saying “I should have moved the pawn 2 spaces instead of 1 in that opening move”

We are demographically outnumbered. It’s no longer about ideas, it’s about race and ethnic identity and and various other identities.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 6:09:25 PM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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This circular firing squad has got to stop...there are too many that don’t want to get off the couch and actually work for their money, they think they are owed just to breath!


31 posted on 11/08/2012 6:09:36 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: willibeaux
“Let’s put the blame where it belongs. Many Christians didn’t vote and on the numb-nuts who believed Zero’s BS!”
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Nice try, but don't blame it on the Christians; instead blame it on the “True Patriots” who just couldn't bring their fragile egos, and 8 year-old intellects to vote for the better of two choices. They can stammer around all they want wrapping their selfish B.S. in patriotic platitudes; the fact is, these A$$wipes helped Obama win reelection!

32 posted on 11/08/2012 6:09:36 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Hildy

no hildy- we didn’t lose because THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THEN US....we lost because a bunch of “us” (not me) decided to sit on their asses at home rather than go out and vote....stop pushing media lies...


33 posted on 11/08/2012 6:11:30 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Hildy

“WE LOST BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THAN US.”

No, we lost because 2 or 3 million who voted for McCain decided to stay home, and because 2 of our senate candidates are retarded about rape. Smooth move by those A-holes who stayed home. Hope they like 6 dollar gas, doubled electic rates, a gutted military, the UN small Arms treaty, carbon taxes added into everything, higher food prices, a 6-3 liberal supreme court split, and an atomic Iran.

Oh, and the utterly final shot at ending Obamacare.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: indianrightwinger

And yet Bachmann continues to win in her district despite the heavy influx of money and nasty ads against her. Your logic is pathetic.

The reason the republicans lost is due to the folks who satyed home because Romney wasn’t their cup of tea. As long as we continue to form circular firing squads we will remain wounded and dying


35 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:16 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ilgipper

“Romney was miles Better than pawlenty. He is awful. At the very least awfully boring.”

That’s a given, but what about Pawlenty?


36 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:17 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: indianrightwinger
We have to realize that voters get news from Jon Stewart, the View, Jimmy Fallon, etc. There are too many stupid people in America and the number is growing because of dependency and the "American Idol"-like attraction to the presidential race. We can pinpoint certain moments in time but the fact is not everyone is a political junkie. A cousin sent me an e-mail earlier that she is upset that Elizabeth Warren won the Senate race in Massachusetts. She asked five co-workers about the elections and each couldn't remember any name other than Warren or Obama, and would answer with “I dunno, I voted for the person with the D next to his/her name.” Dems feed off uninformed people and sometimes succeed in races.
37 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:41 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Smile on Dems: Ignorance is bliss.)
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To: indianrightwinger

my thoughts...this is truly one of the most thoughtless and useless threads ever started on FR...

Abert is that you?


38 posted on 11/08/2012 6:14:50 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: napscoordinator
No way Jose. Bachmann was the crazy-eyed Gardasil lady who stomped her feet and said "I am a serious candidate, I am, I am."

Pawlenty was a snore. None of these banjo hitters had a ghost of a shot at winning anything. That's why they didn't.

39 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:47 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: God luvs America
“no hildy- we didn’t lose because THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THEN US....we lost because a bunch of “us” (not me) decided to sit on their asses at home rather than go out and vote....stop pushing media lies...”
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Think about the utter selfishness, and stupidity of these idiots on are side who decided to not vote for Romney in their little protest. Actually, it wasn't really a protest; it was grown men and women pi$$ed that their candidate didn't win the primary. Instead of acting like an adult and dealing with reality, they had a little pity party on election night.

You can almost imagine these idiots on election night:

“We'll show them...they'll be sorry! Boo Hoo!”

These 3 million who didn't vote are selfish, classless bastards who are responsible for sticking this nation with a known Marxist for 4 more years!

40 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:45 PM PST by Artcore
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To: DesertRhino

“No, we lost because 2 or 3 million who voted for McCain decided to stay home, and because 2 of our senate candidates are retarded about rape”

Well, they probably voted for those 2 senators because they think alike.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:45 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: indianrightwinger

Come on now...


42 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:37 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Given that the guy who lost the general beat all his primary opponents handily, I’d say any of those would have fared much worse.


43 posted on 11/08/2012 6:20:13 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ari-freedom

You probably have a solid point in those states. And in the others, they stayed home, sad because they had no Akin to vote for. Lunacy ruled on our side if we could not beat this loser Obama even when he drew 9 million less than he did in 2008.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 6:21:35 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: HannibalHamlinJr
It’s no longer about ideas, it’s about race and ethnic identity...

This is wrong. This is a major, perhaps fatal error. It is all about and only about ideas--they just happen to be ideas we loathe and hold in such contempt we can't believe that millions of our fellow citizens have swallowed them wholesale. Ideas like 'deserving to gulp the fruits of others' labors because "we deserve a fair chance.' " You can take it from there.

45 posted on 11/08/2012 6:22:58 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: indianrightwinger

Run a Conservative next time. That’s your answer.


46 posted on 11/08/2012 6:23:10 PM PST by Sirius Lee (A man isn't really a man until he becomes himself.)
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To: indianrightwinger

It wouldn’t matter who ran because it’s fraud.

When voters complain they can’t pick Romney, that Obama lights up instead, then polling place should be closed until the machine is recalibrated & tested in front of bi-partisan observers.

When GOP monitors are tossed out of voting places, someone should go to jail.

When Election officials are caught registering people on the spot, don’t just haul them away, arrest them.

When VA keeps its polls open til midnight, which it shouldn’t, there should be observers dispatched to every polling place that stayed open.

The early voting crap needs to be stopped. A week at the most and we need to have monitors there as if it were election day.

Absentee ballots have exploded in number partially due to double votes from people with multiple properties.

And our gutless Congress should have fought for our military votes. We should never ever just shrug when our fighting heroes are disenfranchised. I still think they should sue the Obama administration for that ploy.

When you look at all these recorded events as a whole, you start to see how Obama won.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 6:25:34 PM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: indianrightwinger

“Is Bachman the reason for Obama’s 2nd Term?”

Bwahahahahaha! Now that is funny.

Uh, you did intend for this to be a joke...right?


48 posted on 11/08/2012 6:26:52 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: indianrightwinger

We continue to allow them to dictate the playing field. When I say them it is mainly the liberal. I have to include the republican elite as well. The liberals have the media we allow them to host our debates. We allow them to promote our narrative. To defeat the MSM is the mission. All energies have to be used to counter them. This is their loudspeaker. It has to be silenced. Right now they are digging the knife in us over the circular firing squad that we are conducting. Lets figure out how we can take out the liberal media. It can be done we just have to figure a strategy and or multiple strategies.


49 posted on 11/08/2012 6:29:27 PM PST by AGENTPROVACATEUR
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To: ari-freedom
The real reason is the POS “Patriots” who stayed home to protest Romney. Thank you A$$holes!”

I have heard that tune before, couldn’t dance to it then and I d@mn sure ain't going to dance to it now.

We ran the guy who lost to McCain who lost to Obama, and you want to blame the voter?

I said before the vote that Romney would win if he showed a significant lead in the polls otherwise they would steal it, and they did.

You do not know if voters stayed home, you only have their word for it, that and a few fake computer thumb drives.

I read a book nearly 25 years ago called Vote Scam that outlined the plan, and now we are living it. Republicans have done zero to stop fraud.

50 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:35 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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