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Re-elected Obama Pushes Anti-2nd Amendment Gun Grab
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | November 8, 2012

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:13:01 PM PST by raptor22

Second Amendment: Within hours of re-election, the administration fast-tracked a treaty in the United Nations that transcends borders and tramples our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It was no coincidence.

Less than 24 hours after President Obama's re-election, the U.S. Mission to the United Nations helped move the U.N.'s Arms Control Treaty a step closer to enactment. America joined 157 other nations in voting Wednesday to finalize the treaty in March. None was opposed and there were 18 abstentions.

U.N. delegates and gun-control activists had complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as openly supporting the pact. But once the election was over, the Obama administration had more flexibility to pull the trigger on supporting the pact.

The Obama administration, which reversed long-standing U.S. opposition to the treaty in 2009, says the treaty does not threaten our Second Amendment rights and applies only to international arms trade. But its record of opposition to private gun ownership and its deference to international bodies and their authority give us pause.

So does a paper by the U.N.'s Coordinating Action on Small Arms. It notes that arms have been "misused by lawful owners" and demands that the "arms trade therefore be regulated in ways that would ... minimize the misuse of legally owned weapons."

Is an American defending his home against intruders just such a "misuse"?

Even if the treaty applied only to transfers of small arms between nations, would that mean restrictions on our ability to aid allies such as Israel and Taiwan? Would we be forbidden from supporting resistance movements around the world that rise up against the very dictators who support this treaty?

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1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:13:09 PM PST by raptor22
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2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:14:56 PM PST by oldernittany
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To: oldernittany

3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:16:45 PM PST by oldernittany
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To: raptor22

Obama plans to make criminals of us all to make his base look “normal”.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:16:48 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: raptor22

Article II, section 2, clause 2

“[The President] shall have Power, by and with Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...”


5 posted on 11/08/2012 4:19:10 PM PST by Kennard
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To: raptor22

It’s OK, Mitt Romney would have done the same thing. After all, I’ve been told by plenty of people that he’s identical to Obama. /s


6 posted on 11/08/2012 4:19:18 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: raptor22

Hence gun sales through the roof! This Administration seems to continue to try to find ways around or though the Constitution. The UN in coming next. Arm now or regret it later...


7 posted on 11/08/2012 4:26:32 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Gun control ping


8 posted on 11/08/2012 4:32:22 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22
UN officials aren't elected by us. They don't represent us. They don't make our laws. No funding from tax dollars should be going anywhere near the UN. We declared Independence once, so we shouldn't have to do it again.

We're not subjects of a world government. We have representatives who speak for us. Did my congressman approve of this? My senator? Are we not a representative Republic?

We need our military to protect us from our own government. It's out of control. Where are they?

9 posted on 11/08/2012 4:33:57 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: raptor22

Oh well, at least those who voted for O can be happy knowing we will all have “free” healthcare and contraception.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 4:34:04 PM PST by rimtop56
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To: Kennard

Since when has Obama obeyed or respected the Constitution? Or Harry Reid for that matter.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 4:34:46 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22

Posted om my Face Book!


12 posted on 11/08/2012 4:41:49 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: raptor22
Here ya go all you anti Romney people? Think that there was a difference now?
13 posted on 11/08/2012 4:45:57 PM PST by crz
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To: raptor22

From my cold dead hands.......From my cold dead hands......


14 posted on 11/08/2012 4:47:47 PM PST by RobertClark (Inside every "older" person is a younger person wondering what the hell happened?)
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To: concerned about politics

No, we are no longer a republic. We will now be ruled by consensus. And we will all have to fight like hell to stop this..maybe even by arms.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 4:48:01 PM PST by crz
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To: raptor22

I am going to have to build some hog pens and get some hogs. I hope the blue helmet boys don’t make them sick.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 4:52:35 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: ozzymandus

Ayn Rand quotes:

There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 5:00:02 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Shadow44
It’s OK, Mitt Romney would have done the same thing. After all, I’ve been told by plenty of people that he’s identical to Obama. /s

Probably Not; Myth is really pro-gun

18 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:56 PM PST by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: raptor22
μολὼν λαβέ
19 posted on 11/08/2012 5:31:06 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Agreed, Bring it.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:17 PM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
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To: wastoute

Agreed, Bring it.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:34 PM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
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22 posted on 11/08/2012 6:45:07 PM PST by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=om93destr)
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To: ez

Ping


23 posted on 11/08/2012 6:49:28 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: ez

Good points


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:15:35 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Kennard
No way would 2/3 of the senators vote for this.

None of the republicans, even the liberal ones, would dare touch this. And even some Democrats (eg Joe Manchin) wouldn't vote for it.

25 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:01 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: RobertClark
No Sir! From Their cold dead hands!
26 posted on 11/09/2012 11:13:05 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: raptor22

The American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the Colonists.

Fitting that it ends with the Colonists demanding to be disarmed.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 11:14:54 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: raptor22

The NWO agenda has gone into super-hyperdrive.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 11:16:17 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: raptor22

take the guns which belong to the idiots which voted for him in WI, OH, MI, FL, NV, PA, OH,

they shoudl be be the first to go seeing as they voted for it


29 posted on 11/09/2012 11:20:16 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Then:
Don’t worry - Obamacare will never pass the House.
Don’t worry - Obamacare will never pass the Senate.
Don’t worry - Obamacare will never pass.
Don’t worry - the court will throw out Obamacare.
Don’t worry - now that Obamacare is upheld, the Republicans will win in a landslide.

Now:
Don’t worry - they’ll never disarm us.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 11:22:10 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: raptor22

Flexibility.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 11:22:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: crz

we came out in my county in FL

http://enrnow.votesjc.com/FL/St_Johns/42920/111353/en/md.html?cid=0103

that little blue area went Dem where the students and blacks live
and they say republicans never turned out, it was liek this all over FL in the republican conties and we;re not a small county here


32 posted on 11/09/2012 11:25:35 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Don’t need 2/3s of the Senators. Just need 2/3s of the Senators PRESENT.
I’m sure they can arrange a “dark of night” passage of the treaty.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 11:33:02 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Tzimisce
True.

Whats the point of hoping for the best anymore...The balance has tipped against us.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 11:42:21 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: raptor22

Thank our non-voting voters with their integrity and litmus tests.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 11:46:37 AM PST by soycd
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To: raptor22

The day OStalin comes for the guns, Americans are going to start to pile up. Americans are not going to turn in their guns. Where I live, the county sheriff whom I am kin too, told me that it would take THIRTY MINUTES for a deputy to get too us. Someone breaks in and has 29 minutes to do his thing, murder us, rob us and be gone. I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY GUN. I WILL NOT!!!


36 posted on 11/09/2012 11:49:47 AM PST by RetiredArmy (November 6, 2012: The day the United States Republic DIED.)
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To: Tzimisce

LOL! This is SO TRUE!


37 posted on 11/09/2012 11:54:13 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Captain7seas

Mine are here, come and get em. You can have the ammo first.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 11:59:44 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Tzimisce

You forgot,

Don’t worry-The anti-homo vote was 32-0


39 posted on 11/09/2012 12:21:06 PM PST by USAF80
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To: raptor22
By all means, Come and Take 'Em...

It's going to be the skin-headed thugs of the local SWAT teams who will try first. What do you suppose an IED will do to a crown vic? Ask all the vets from Iraq and the 'Stan how much fun it was to have EVERY hand against them.

No prisoners...

40 posted on 11/09/2012 12:29:40 PM PST by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

2/3s of Senators present - that’s not good news. They just need a quorum.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 1:03:06 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: oldernittany

MOLON LABE


42 posted on 11/09/2012 1:14:23 PM PST by Tyrannis (Long Live The Republic)
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To: raptor22

Look at how the British interpret defensive fire arm incidents and you can expect that the UN will be to the extreme of that.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 1:22:03 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kennard

Article VI:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

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This article makes treaties subject to the provisions of “This Constitution” I.E. Any treaty must be within our Constitution to become “the supreme Law of the Land”.

The UN arms treaty would violate the second amendment of the Bill of Rights of our Constitution.

If the UN arms treaty were to be recognized as law in the United States, our leaders need to go back to learning our nation’s blue print!


44 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:20 PM PST by ronjon
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