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House speaker says he'll consider tax increase (Get Boehner out of there, NOW!)
boston.com ^ | 11/7/2012 | ap

Posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:46 PM PST by tobyhill

Edited on 11/07/2012 4:27:40 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes ‘‘under the right conditions’’ to help reduce the nation’s staggering debt and put its finances in order.

‘‘Mr. President, this is your moment,’’ Boehner told reporters. ‘‘We want you to lead.’’

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama ‘‘to make good on a balanced approach’’ that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

‘‘Let’s find the common ground that has eluded us,’’ Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term.

The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president’s clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.

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KEYWORDS: boehner; taxes
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1 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:52 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Mr. Boner, I will not pay it.

Send the bill to the hispanics and women.

Screw you.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: tobyhill

He is an idiot.

He is hanging out a carrot to see if he can get Obama to agree to larger spending cuts.

What is happening will be him bending over to accept immediate tax increases for future spending cuts that will never ever happen.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 3:54:23 PM PST by dila813
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To: tobyhill

I’m now all for a tax increase. Let ALL the “Bush” tax cuts expire. It will result in a nice big Middle Class tax hike that wakes them up. We need a tax hike on the bottom 50% that pay NOTHING too. Now, they get to vote themselves benefits and have the “rich” pay for it. Every lazy bum needs to have skin in the game and pay tax until it hurts.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 3:54:32 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: tobyhill

Mr Boehner, please go home! We the people are fed up with girly men. Your crying game is ridiculous. Stop bending over to the prez who bows to foreign leaders and grow some spine.

GRRRRRRRR. Don’t offer any deals—just shut up and watch what they do/say. Let them come to YOU. My teenager could do a better job than Boehner....


6 posted on 11/07/2012 3:55:19 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: tobyhill

Donald Trump and Herman Cain want a new party too. wow.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 3:55:37 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill

I am NO FAN OF BOEHNER- but that is not what Boehner said!

He said that he was willing to increase revenue- using ROMNEY’s plan for tax reforming loopholes....

now— about Boehner- GET HIM OUT! We need leaders who do more than WRITE LETTERS and “SEEK” ANSWERS!

the problem with the GOP— the elected work HARD to come home and sell us on DC and the GOP ideas instead of hearing OUR voice and working HARD to sell OUR voice to DC and the GOP!


8 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:05 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: tobyhill

I support sequestration and expiring the Bush tax cuts.

Boehner should tell Obama that if he wants to go back to the Clinton era, then he can get the spending and the taxes of the Clinton era, and hang it around his neck and let him drown in his own rhetoric.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:05 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: tobyhill

Get this gucking fuy out!


10 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:29 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I think you should have to be a taxpayer to vote...


11 posted on 11/07/2012 3:59:52 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: tobyhill

We are leaderless, however the automatic spending cuts would be beneficial. The tax hikes would not but only if they last. I don’t see why leadership is necessary at this point, let the cuts and hikes take their course. Do nothing to stop it.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:35 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: tobyhill

Get out da House - NOW!


13 posted on 11/07/2012 4:01:07 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: tobyhill

“We want you to lead, Mr. President.”

My head is going to explode.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 4:02:34 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: tobyhill

Dear Mr. Boehner:

Obama’s victory means, for now at least, that the politics of personal destruction and division by identity (“Voting is the best revenge”) has carried the day with a thin majority of the electorate, who seem to believe that the laws of economics, which Obama has never understood, can be reversed. They think that in Greece too, and march in the streets accordingly, as if that could reverse those laws.

In his victory speech last night Obama said that “this country only works when we accept certain obligations to one another and to future generations.” Future generations? This from the man who has overseen a $5 trillion increase in the debt that falls on those future generations?

It’s striking, however, how little has actually changed. The House, which controls the public purse, remains solidly Republican. We’re already hearing calls for the majority there to bend to the will of Obama, the Senate, and that thin majority. That would mark the end of the Republican Party, so it’s not likely. Brace yourself, then. It’s either gridlock, or self-destruction. Take your pick.

You cave in Mr. B and the Republican Party is history.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 4:05:30 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: TheBattman

I agree
Only taxPAYERS should get to vote!


16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:06:50 PM PST by nevermorelenore
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yep, sock it to all those Hollywood elites, and big business CEOs who love him so much.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:45 PM PST by Catsrus (WANT)
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To: tobyhill
I agree with Boehner, but would go even farther, Give Obama everything he wants, but make him ask for it so everyone knows where the responsibility lies! You want to work together? You want bipartisanship. You got it. Take all the tax hikes you want. All the debt you can pile on. America wants Obama? Give it to them full throttle!
18 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:20 PM PST by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: tobyhill

Why did Bonehead make this grand idea of his public 1 day after the
Election, instead of before? Could it be the voters he depended on to
Show up at the polls would have stayed home?

This hack makes me sick.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:32 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill

Jump off the cliff.

Let all taxes rise and cut discretionary spending. Then maybe the freeloader class can realize what happens when you spend like a drunken sailor. Let them feel the pain.

Elections have consequences.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:09 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: tobyhill

House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes....

Love him or hate him THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID!


21 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:09 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: radpolis
Boehner should tell Obama that if he wants to go back to the Clinton era, then he can get the spending and the taxes of the Clinton era, and hang it around his neck and let him drown in his own rhetoric.

I'd be happy to watch the fiscal cliff drive over. The permanent cuts in part time worker's hours under ObamaCare which considers 30 hours or more to be "full time" could help some people realize what has happened to them and why Republicans and independents tried to fight back.

Unfortunately they'll blame the greedy rich.

22 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:09 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate voter Freepers for making him president til 2017!)
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To: tobyhill

when you see your enemy turn tail and start to run, do you:

A. offer a truce

B. go home

C. chase them down, kill them all, and push further into their territory unopposed

if you’re GOPe, your answer is always A or B.

if you’re anyone else, your answer is C

expect increased taxes, double down on govt spending, radically extravagant govt programs, massive irresponsibility when is comes to our military, radical cutting of defense, and the coup de grace on our defense... the removal of our last nuclear warheads.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:26 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Viennacon

**** him, **** his party, **** them all.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:22 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: eeevil conservative

If you think this is such a good idea, why did Bonehead wait untill 1 day
After the election to share his grand bargain.

You know the reason, just like I do.

Which makes Bonehead another Hack.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:55 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill
No I disagree. Don't you see what the Dems plan?

They know we are headed for a financial disaster so they plan to blame the Republicans by saying they would not agree to a tax on the rich. If they can get away with blaming Bush for the last 4 years they will get away with blaming the Republicans for the financial crisis that is about to happen.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:15 PM PST by when the time is right
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To: chris37

This is an example of why we lost - go along, get along Republicans with no spine.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:22 PM PST by gramho12
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Let ALL the “Bush” tax cuts expire. It will result in a nice big Middle Class tax hike that wakes them up.

Couldn't agree more. I think the people have spoken and the country wants cradle to grave government care. So now let us ALL pay for it.

28 posted on 11/07/2012 4:17:18 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: All
include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.

Boehner is proposing exactly what Romney proposed...LOWER RATES FOR ALL.

Increased revenues come from closing loopholes which is what conservatives have wanted for years (simplified code).

The media will try to dupe conservatives on this, but Boehner is saying what needs to be said.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:12 PM PST by what's up
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To: NittanyLion

Ditto. I also say give them the tax increases they want. Make it clear that you are opposed but doing it in the interest of “compromise”. That way they won’t have Reps to blame for the failing economy. When the small business shut down, the workers who voted for this clown can fell the pain. We can say—we gave them what they wanted. Higher taxes, less jobs.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:18 PM PST by oldernittany
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To: All
include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.

Boehner is proposing exactly what Romney proposed...LOWER RATES FOR ALL.

Increased revenues come from closing loopholes which is what conservatives have wanted for years (simplified code).

The media will try to dupe conservatives on this, but Boehner is saying what needs to be said.

31 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:36 PM PST by what's up
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To: Obadiah
Boehner doesn't even need to comment on tax hikes, just let the Bush Tax cuts expire for everyone and then blame the Rats.
32 posted on 11/07/2012 4:26:13 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: palmer
We are leaderless, however the automatic spending cuts would be beneficial. The tax hikes would not but only if they last. I don’t see why leadership is necessary at this point, let the cuts and hikes take their course. Do nothing to stop it.

What you're suggesting is immediate automatic tax increases that will be permanent. The so-called "Bush Tax Cuts" are a temporary thing that has now lasted 10 years. Somewhere in all the noise about "tax cuts for the wealthy" a few simple facts were lost.

1) We have not had an across the board tax cut since 2003.
2) Those tax cuts are now the current tax rates. Have been for 10 years.
3) Left alone those tax rates expire in Jan. We get a defacto tax increase and 0boober doesn't even have to vote on it. A progressives wet dream.
4) One big reason for the length of this recession (aside from Bam Bam's destructive policies) is uncertainty in the tax code. Every few years we go through the kabuki dance of "letting the tax cuts expire" only to have them extended another few years. That's no way to run a first-world business economy, but it's the norm in the turd world where taxes go up at the whim of the dictator.

Finally.... Any spending cuts are going to be smoke and mirrors, cuts in the rate of growth ,except probably in the case of the military, those will be real and hard hitting.

33 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:05 PM PST by YankeeReb (The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” B.H. 0bama)
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To: tobyhill
Boehner didn't comment on tax hikes.

The reporter is putting words in his mouth.

34 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Boehner needs to just shut up and let the chips fall where they may.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 4:29:40 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

There is a part of me that wants to see the Obama agenda on steroids and just let the Socialist have everything he wants. +70% income tax rates. VAT Tax. Expedite Obamacare implementation. Cap and Trade. Amnesty. Public Employee Unions. Crony Capitalism. Downsized Military. Trillions more in Debt. Worthless Dollar.

It’s all going to happen anyway, so the crash might as well happen on his watch.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 4:29:49 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: traderrob6
Love him or hate him THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID!

More misquoting of Boehner even at this hour, eh? He's got to love getting incoming from every direction no matter what he actually says.

FR is becoming a laughingstock; maybe every new thread and reply needs a checkbox wherein the user acknowledges that he has read the article completely, understands it and accepts the possibility of misquotes, out-of-context snippets, partisan spin and agitprop with extreme prejudice.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 4:31:51 PM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: tobyhill
Boehner is going after lower rates, a simplified code and spending cuts.

Why should he shut up?

38 posted on 11/07/2012 4:32:16 PM PST by what's up
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To: traderrob6

trader, you and me are the only one that noticed the headline did not match the content...


39 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:16 PM PST by Reverend Wright (Obama explains the ALCS: the Yankees actually played great but lost due to mistakes by Joe Torre)
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To: niteowl77
FR is becoming a laughingstock

Correct.

So many posters are determined to hate Boehner to such an extent that they believe whatever the MSM tells them in order to do so.

40 posted on 11/07/2012 4:35:22 PM PST by what's up
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I agree.
Let it crash and the makers will rebuild the way they want.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:39 PM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: tobyhill

He represents the problem with the GOP so perfectly.
Capitulating SOB.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 4:38:22 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: tobyhill

He didn’t say a higher tax increase — he said higher revenues from tax reform based on LOWER tax rates.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 4:42:09 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: what's up

The faster he quits working with the Ghetto Slug in the White House the faster we can let the Rats torch our economy and then we can finally start rebuilding.
It’s like continuing to put money into a house for repairs when it would be cheaper and faster to just tear it down then rebuild.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 4:45:30 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
So you would rather have the economy crash into depression than get lower tax rates, a simplified code, and more revenue (which is what conservatives have wanted for years?)

Very strange logic.

45 posted on 11/07/2012 4:48:28 PM PST by what's up
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To: tobyhill

Smart move to go first. Obama will either be forced to meet the “right conditions” or he will be the obstructionist. Now, Obama will lie and say they Republicans won’t compromise but Boehner is already on record. OBAMA WILL REFUSE TO COMPROMISE BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HAVE TO. He never has to run again and he will refuse to do anything to compromise his radical leftist principles.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 4:50:12 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: tobyhill

Some of the Freepers around here don’t get it.

The GOP should get out of the way and let Obama take responsibility for his own rhetoric.

If he wants to get rid of those evil Bush policies, force him to do it alone through sequestration and expiring the Bush tax cuts.

The GOP doesn’t need to say anything except “here you go, you got what you wanted.”

If the GOP negotiates a new deal, they will get all the blame and Obama all the benefit, whether it works or not.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 4:50:36 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: YankeeReb

My philosophy is not to “run a first-world business economy” for now. Let taxes rise on everyone, the economy will suffer but that is superficial and temporary and it will come back once we get a better deal. We won’t get a good deal as things stand now. The automatic spending cuts will kill the defense industry (100’s of thousands of layoffs). That will bring the Dem senators to the table very quickly.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 4:50:36 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: radpolis

All freepers need to print out your post and tape it to the wall.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 4:53:39 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: tobyhill

I’m with the “give Obama” everything he wants crowd.
Say it out loud to the press. Tell Bama to send the congress his plan, we promise to pass it and he can own it. That from the pubbies would scare the sh’# out of him.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:08 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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