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Red American: Welcome to California
Me | 11-7-2012 | Behind the Blue Wall

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:33:41 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall

I'm not one of those seeing a silver lining on what happened yesterday. This was a crushing defeat for liberty and freedom. Not to get to hyperbolic about it, but I would not be surprised at all if I never see another President in my lifetime who believes in the kind of freedom and liberty envisioned by the Founders of this great nation. I live in California, the state that once bequeathed Ronald Reagan to the nation, but where we now have liberal Democrats holding every statewide office, and the Republicans have less than a third of the seats in the state legislature. It's simple math . . . we have imported millions of people who are more interested in handouts than opportunity, and we have taxed, regulated and harassed those who work for a living out of business and out of the state. The end result is that Democrats are guaranteed power for the forseeable future, even as the conditions of life for everyone except the rich and public employees gets worse and worse every year. What's happened in California over the past twenty years will happen to the rest of America, as sure as winter follows fall and the night follows the day. Within the first two years Obama will grant citizenship to tens of millions of illegal aliens, and loads of free goodies to every little niche group with their hands out, and that will be the end of the story. They will vote Democrat for generations to come no matter how bad things get, and there won't be nearly enough freedom-loving Americans to offset them. I'm sorry to be downer, but it is what it is, I'm living it now, you will be soon.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012elections; california; demographics

1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:33:48 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I live here too. It’s so sad because it really is a beautiful state....but it won’t be much longer.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:39:48 PM PST by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I live in California. We just approved Prop 30, a massive tax increase. Next Jan. 1 CARB regulations kick in as well as repeal of the Bush Tax cuts. This morning I heard of the first of an avalanche of pink slips that will be handed out by mostly small companies. Folks I belong to a teachers union so I’m supposed to be relieved, right? I’m not. Tax revenue will become a trickle of it’s former flow. We’re all doomed, some sooner, some later. Arm yourself because no one here’s going to save you. Everyone for themselves.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:40:11 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

And it’s not like we haven’t warned over and over about this.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:40:27 PM PST by Catmom
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I will begin looking for another state to move to. I realize that eventually the same problems which have sunk California, will invade every corner of the U.S., but, perhaps, I’ll be able to reach my retirement years before that happens.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 1:41:38 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I think it is the public sector unions who helped devise the welfare sheme in California in order to attract and keep the illegal aliens in order to have votes that will perpetually support their outrageous generous benefits. Because Texas has just as many Hispanics and is conservative. They don’t have an all powerful public sector union gang running the show.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:24 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Huskrrrr

“This morning I heard of the first of an avalanche of pink slips that will be handed out by mostly small companies.”

I started a thread last night about firing a liberal today in less than 4 hours. This is my therapy. I’ll worry about the taxes with my business partners later on..


7 posted on 11/07/2012 1:43:12 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Beave Meister
We left 3 years ago with my husband's company. They had been in SoCal for over 50 years. After 19 years there, I miss the activities and the beauty but not the governing of Democrats. Unfortunately I cannot get away from Democrat rule now.
8 posted on 11/07/2012 1:45:01 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Just wait until their EBT cards start bouncing. Then TSWHTF.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:05 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
I'm sorry to be downer, but it is what it is, I'm living it now, you will be soon.

They already are...Don't be fooled. It's why they are always begging others to join them...lol

The big exception here is we have great weather in southern California, no snow, hurricanes, tornadoes, ice storms, and ice box weather or miserable extreme heat and humidity. Not to mention lots of things to do and see.

Ya can't do anything about change or demographics thanks to corrupt U.S. government.

Currently, 73 degrees, clear, sunny with a mild on shore pacific Breeze. Orange trees and flowers abound.

The rest of November, December, January, February should be about the same.

If I got to live in a socialist country, I might as well live in where the weather is near perfect year round, where there are lots of things to do.

Take care!

10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:48:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: max americana
Be sure to get back to us with details--How you call him into your office, exactly what you say to him, and what his reaction is.

This, I will enjoy.

11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:50:15 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: dragnet2

You have earthquakes, too.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:05 PM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home.....)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I live here too. In place of complaining, I am thinking better look for loop holes, how to get free goodies? Need some way to cover tax hike. In liberal land do as the liberals do. Let spread welfare around. Atleast, it can speed up fall/bottom, less misery.

Let start sharing loop holes for welfare, especially for those who are making 100k+.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 1:53:34 PM PST by jennychase
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To: KYGrandma

Yes we do...lol...But it beats watching cows fly over where your roof once was.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 1:57:26 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Unless you want America to be like CalifornicatingU land, the rest of America needs to separate the blue state pos’s from your money.

Start a boycott, buycott or avoidcott with the Blue States.

Don’t buy a product made or raised in a blue state unless you have proof its owners are not left wingers.

Don’t vacation in, or have conventions or business meetings in, Democrat blue states. Start with Nevada until the casino bosses get rid of Reid and send him home to have more time with his family.

Don’t visit CalifornicatorU land. Don’t go to Follywood movies and stay away from our products except those produced or raised by conservatives.

Avoid NY City like it has the plague. It has the terminal Bloomberg mental illness.

The Blue Staters hate you, your religion, your belief system, and your priorities in life. Let them live without your $’s.

Let the blue states sink on their own!

Save your charity $’s for red state people when disasters hits their area.

http://boston.com/news/special/politics/2012/general/us-president-election-results-2012.html


15 posted on 11/07/2012 2:00:11 PM PST by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: KYGrandma

Till its below 7 richter scale, we don’t care. After that rest of USA will pitch in too re-built us.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 2:01:10 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Hey, I was born and raised in Southern California but escaped from there in 1979 to live in Louisiana (ancestral family state). After many years my job brought me to Illinois, which is now in the exact same position as California, but with shitty weather.

But I will be 62 soon, so I may just pack it all in and remove myself back to Dixie, where there are still some folks who believe in the freedom envisioned by the Founders. However, if we want to preserve freedom there we’ll probably have to secede (again).


17 posted on 11/07/2012 2:01:48 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: WashingtonSource

That’s right because the more gov’t benefits the more gov’t workers needed, The unions are the ones that kept pushing the healthcare reform for the same reason. I worked for a union and they openly admit this.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:20 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Good grief. The Democrats are just grifters. They’re not socialists. I’ve been around hard core communists. They think about the revolution every day. The Democrats think about how to put your money in their pockets and campaign chests every day. The Communists said they had to have 3% of the population as hard core communists in order to take over a country. That’s 9 million people in this country. You think we got 9 million throat cutters? Look at Grandpa Ayers and Obama. Do they look like throat cutters to you. Ayers lies about his age so he thinks he can have a chance with the girls. He’s just a dirty old man. How about Nancy Pelosi? Take her out deer hunting and have her gut a deer. I guarantee you that old girl will be throwing up. It’s pretty easy to talk tough, but it’s a lot harder to cut someone’s throat. They’re just Democrat grifters.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:04 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dragnet2

As prisons go, it sounds pretty nice.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:10 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher

If ya gotta do time....well...

Cheers

21 posted on 11/07/2012 2:25:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WashingtonSource

If I’m not mistaken, illegal aliens constitute a lower percentage of the Hispanic population of Texas as against California. If we were just dealing with native born Hispanics and a regulated trickle of new immigrants, it wouldn’t be a problem. It’s the flood of people who will now attribute everything they have in life to the Democratic Party that is the issue.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 2:32:33 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: dragnet2
Lol.

(And I didn't think I could laugh today.)

23 posted on 11/07/2012 2:35:27 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: WashingtonSource

Texas went 57% to 41% (4,555,799 to 3,294,440) for the Romulan. It is sad to say but with new crops of invaders coming in every day and their birth rate and no way to stop them that Texas will be blue in ten or fifteen years.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 2:40:00 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Flycatcher

No problem and you’re welcome!

Enjoy!


25 posted on 11/07/2012 2:42:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jennychase

Don’t do that. It’s a trap, believe me, through my jobs, I’ve seen it happen too many times. You’re a productive, free citizen, and you see a chance to get a freebie, and then one things leads to the next, and the next thing you know, the “free goodies” are all you have, and you’re sitting in front of some bureaucrat who’s talking about how your benefits are going to be cut and/or you no longer qualify. Stay free for as long as you possibly can!


26 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:15 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: ought-six

My family left the Ventura/Santa Paula/Ojai area in 1970. Went to Arkansas.

School, college, job, moving around have planted me in middle TN for the last 22 years.

Come on in, the water is warm. Good jobs, low cost of living, no income tax, decent sales tax, low property taxes, good schools, and great retirement areas.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 3:19:44 PM PST by Fledermaus (2012: The year the Constitution died.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

It’s over.
Life long Massachusettes citizen here.
I live among these fruits EVERY day.
I know.
it’s over.

thank god i never had children.
ain’t that sad.....

i have aways said the inherent flaws of human nature will be the end of us.
Envy and jealousy will drive this country into the gutter.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:57 PM PST by mowowie
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To: mowowie

The “you didn’t build that” schtick is not only arrogant, it’s a hope-zapper.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

When i was a kid i used to dream about visiting California, At the time the state was highlighted on every TV show.
California just looked sooooo nice and comforting.

Now, as a 45 yrr old adult you could not even pay me to visit that retched state.
This coming from a life long MA resident.
California, The land of fruits and nuts.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:43 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Fledermaus

Tennessee is one of the states we’re looking at.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 3:31:20 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: jennychase

The rest of america to help re-build California?

Re-buid yourself you freaks.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:33 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

California continues down its path to nowhere.The best thing to write down is to remember that your environment is changing,it shouldn’t be about leaving this state but about adjusting to it.

In time,this idiocy will run its course.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:52 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: dragnet2

The west coast is waaaay past due for a monster earthquake. Maybe Gov. Brown can start hugging on Obama ahead of time, just in case the worst happens in the next 4 years.

http://nhne-pulse.org/megathrust-earthquake-overdue-for-u-s-north-west-coast/


34 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:25 PM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: SoldierDad

” I realize that eventually the same problems which have sunk California, will invade every corner of the U.S.”

Bzzzt! Wrong.

I live in a state that votes 70% + conservative every election. You can’t extrapolate California crazy to every state because it’s not happening.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 5:16:05 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Due to family commitments this will have to be my fantasy baseball league for a while..... But as soon as I can find solid figures for each state. The percentage that went for Romney vs Obama, I am going to post them as a vanity thread. The states with the highest percentage of pro-Romney votes are good states to move to

My guess is the top Romney states are in the Nebraska to Idaho region and a few the south. Texas vote went how high against Obama?


36 posted on 11/07/2012 6:18:19 PM PST by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: sergeantdave

Yeah, sure. Keep thinking that way. Good luck.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:16 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: MissMagnolia
Poor missy...With winter bearing down on ya, you'll really be wishing for big quake...yuk yuk...

Cheers!

38 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:17 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It will be interesting to see how California copes with the taxation. Democrats like to talk about raising taxes but only if they can get Republicans to go along with it. Shared blame is very important.

People live so tightly these days that you have to warn them before you reduce their pay because of a tax increase. You wouldn’t believe how much it pisses people off, especially Democrats.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 8:19:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy

Ya taxes can can suck, but being very frugal on all purchases covers it, plus we don’t buy anything unnecessary and haven’t for about 5 years now. It’s the price of living in paradise.

Ya see, the year round near perfect Mediterranean style weather here is worth a fortune to us.

BTW, we went deep sea fishing last Christmas Eve, BBQ’d in the afternoon, while wearing shorts....


40 posted on 11/08/2012 10:10:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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