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My Plan of action for the Near Term(Next Year)...
07 Nov 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 11/07/2012 6:35:50 AM PST by US Navy Vet

1. Charity-I will give NOTHING except Tithes and offering through mo LOCAL Church ONLY(so sorry Salvation Army and the like). 2. I am IMMEDIATELY starting to down size. GET RID OF THE EXCESS AND JUNK! 3. I am going to learn how to do MORE things for myself. Do-It-Myself will become order of the day. 4. I am going to get serious in my Religious and Prayer life. Start a home Bible Study on a weeknight. 5. Put more time and effort into my home life. 6. Get DEAD serious on finding ways to shelter my Finances from Obama and his Zombie Government.


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 6:35:56 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

O and get back into good Physical Condition and get my Diabetes under control!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 6:38:27 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I feel our 401K will be threatened in the near future as our economy is on a verge of collaspe


3 posted on 11/07/2012 6:39:23 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: US Navy Vet

Meet and make friends with like minded neighbors. You may need to pool your skills in the future.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 6:43:06 AM PST by freemama
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To: US Navy Vet

I will not spend money on anything extra. I refuse to help the economy.
I will give only to my church and missions.
I will help my kids out rather than have my money sitting in the bank.
I will not support any companies that supported Obama.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 6:43:55 AM PST by arichtaxpayer
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To: US Navy Vet

As soon as the weather clears a bit, starting a small green house out of junk lumber we have around that is suitable. We have a few acres ..... chickens will be here in the spring ..... learning how to can fruits/vegetables/meat. My folks grew up on a farm and dad has been telling me about the Great Depression days so I have an idea what is coming. Those that are self-reliant & can take care of themselves will survive .... those that depend on the government, will not.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 6:45:00 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: US Navy Vet

I wish you the best, but sadly, sheltering your money is only half of the equation. Not much we can do about the prices of necessities which are going to skyrocket.

Anything related to energy is going to skyrocket in price and decrease in availability. Everything from heating and cooling our homes to buying a loaf of bread is going to cost more and more.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 6:45:58 AM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Our 401K accounts will simply evaporate with four years of 20% inflation rates. It’s the Grand Plan to eviscerate evil successful people who have had the temerity to save for themselves and be independent of the government. The money is being stolen from us right before our very eyes — Trillion dollar annual deficits give the money to Obama’s people and the resulting accumulated debt leads to hyperinflation that steals the money from us.

How to protect ourselves financially? Gold? Real Estate? Solar stocks?


8 posted on 11/07/2012 6:46:04 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Patriot Babe
I feel our 401K will be threatened in the near future as our economy is on a verge of collaspe

I have a question about the 401K. We are of the age where we must withdraw a certain amount every year. I am wondering if we should withdraw more than the minimum, especially this year, because there is a real possibility that taxes will go up starting next year. Any advice out there? Thank you.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 6:46:21 AM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: US Navy Vet
Let this election motivated us to double our efforts in removing ourselves from this Babylonian system as much as possible, while remaining a thorn in the progressive's side. I know the thought of another four years of Obama has fired me up to do so.
10 posted on 11/07/2012 6:48:32 AM PST by Errant
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To: US Navy Vet

I am done with “politics”. BUT! I am really into survival mode. So please, anyone with ping lists about these things or other web sites, groups, networks. Get in touch FR Mail me if you don’t want it out in public. Many Thanks!


11 posted on 11/07/2012 6:48:51 AM PST by defconw
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To: Patriot Babe

I’ve been predicting that since ObamaCare passed. That is just too much “cash” doing nothing.

Look for the entire amount to be seized and converted to some type of government bond scheme as a “prop for SSA”. Pre-tax contributions and deductions -for anything- will go away, also.

I’ll be watching closely and end my contributions before the legislation in eneacted. It could possibly come as an add-on to ObamaCare; a stealth maneuver.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 6:49:47 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: US Navy Vet
O and get back into good Physical Condition and get my Diabetes under control!

I hear you! I was recently diagnosed with Type 2...I've cut out cokes, red meat, and eating salad/veggies most meals. Getting more consistent with my exercising, too.

Good luck!

13 posted on 11/07/2012 6:50:02 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I will quit my job and go on welfare or disability and food stamps.

I’ve been supporting freeloaders since I was 16 years old; now it’s my turn to get a piece of Obama’s stash.

/semi-satire


14 posted on 11/07/2012 6:53:30 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: US Navy Vet
O and get back into good Physical Condition and get my Diabetes under control!

USN (not retired) Vet, I'm 65, retired, and I have lost 30 pounds, lowered my BP, and no longer need to take the diabetes meds from VA. I have another 20 to go, and my activity level, while making for lots of aches in forgotten places, has me feeling so much better.

Oh yeah, I am moving to the Philippines in January! Cheap, warm, and great people!

Rent for House or apartment: 50,- - 120,- US$ 2500 - 6000,- Peso
Electricity without air con 20 - 30 ,- US$ 1000 - 1500,- Peso
Electricity with an air con 60,- US$ 3000,- Peso
Tap Water 2,- US$ 100,- Peso
Garbage (mostly free of charge)
Telephone & DSL (Globe) 16,- US$ 995,- Peso
Drinking Water (1 unit every 2 days) 9,- US$ 450,- Peso
Food for two people 100,- US$ 5000,- Peso
Gas for cooking (700 P every 2 month) 7,- US$ 350,- Peso
Transport (Jeepney or Motor Bike) 12,- US$ 600;- Peso
Cable or Satellite TV 7,- or 15,- US$ 350,- or 750,- Peso
House Helper 40,- US$ 2000,- Peso
Total cheapest: 227,- US$ 11345,- Peso
Total deluxe: 380,- US$ 19245,- Peso

Here are some sites to check out!

http://livinginthephilippines.com/

http://www.living-in-the-philippines.com/cost-of-living-philippines.shtml

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+category/id/28/House+and+Lot%2C+Townhouses+and+Subdivisions

15 posted on 11/07/2012 6:55:53 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Solar stocks?

Sell them and purchase solar cells for your home. Take the 50%+ tax deduction and enjoy the savings in electrical usage costs. Do it before government programs go bankrupt!

16 posted on 11/07/2012 6:56:41 AM PST by Errant
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To: US Navy Vet

gosh, everything I’d advise anyone to do would sound like I was prepping for something terrible to happen...

and, since NO one knows the day/hour, I’m just gonna keep doin things the way I’ve always done ‘em.

Remember loose lips sink ships!


17 posted on 11/07/2012 6:56:42 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Patriot Babe
I feel our 401K will be threatened in the near future as our economy is on a verge of collaspe

I'm 45. We have some medical debt, and I'm tempted to liquidate the 401(k) even with the penalty and heavy taxes. Given there's an ever stronger chance that it will be seized anyway, or the rate of return will be abysmal, we'd be in a lot better position without the debt.

And it's looking increasingly like "retirement", for me, is just another word for dying, anyhow.
18 posted on 11/07/2012 6:57:22 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: arichtaxpayer

Sounds like a good list.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 6:59:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: US Navy Vet

Any “friends” that have leaned left or mushy moderates, and I have not been able to convince to vote conservatively, I will immediately dump. I’m sick and tired of dead weight.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 6:59:32 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: sassy steel magnolia
Remember loose lips sink ships!

Ship is already sinking. We need ideas for lifeboats!

21 posted on 11/07/2012 7:00:07 AM PST by Errant
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To: MissMagnolia

My depression era parents’ attitudes are so instilled in me that it makes it hard to throw away things even when I should.

It will probably serve me well here pretty soon.

I’m with you - just got a few acres that we moved on to. Going to get the garden, greenhouse, chickens, etc, set up.
Hoard some commodities, build some “secondary storage”, whatever I have time for.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 7:01:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: All

Gun sales ought to go through the roof now.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 7:02:54 AM PST by Phil
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To: ProudFossil

Go to

www.morningstar.com/discuss

to ask these types of questions and read read read.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 7:04:07 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: freemama
Meet and make friends with like minded neighbors. You may need to pool your skills in the future.

My PA county (Westmoreland) went 61 to 38 for Romney. Good, strong families and neighbors. We'll get through this.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 7:04:29 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: US Navy Vet

I am currently in Chemo for stage 4 cancer. I take comfort in that I will most likely die before the Country does.

FYI, Chemo is more fun than it was to watch last night’s results.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 7:05:53 AM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Anything we do to put ourselves back in control of our lives will be helpful. There are a lot of ways to try starving the “zombies” but eventually you end up surrounded and embattled unless you address the problems creating the zombies.

The zombies today have been created over a period of at least a few generations. Liberals began their long march through our society from the ground up: through the school boards, the city and county government, the labor unions. The “taker zombies” have been created by the media, the entertainment industry, the “politically correct” churches, the social justice groups. The concept of shame has been erased—unless you dare judge someone else.

So while starving the money zombies is good and I think a good start, it is more important to attack the causes in addition to it is really only the symptom of a societal sickness. That plan of action should begin with looking at ourselves. To what extent do we look the other way as moral sickness spreads through our nation?

Do we wink at or even patronize morally degrading entertainment? Do we ignore the moral failings of an entertainer, an athlete, or artist so we can enjoy the CD, the concert, the movie, the game?

Do we ignore the propagandizing that goes on in our churches, our community organizations, our charities? Do we unheedingly give to charity without a clear idea of how the charity uses the money to help people become self-sufficient instead of dependent?

Do we concur with notions that people should not be expected to face the natural consequences of their voluntary decisions? Do we toss money at the corner begger just to make him or her go away or make ourselves feel self-righteous?

Do we leave our children in public schools where the previous generation of takers is busily creating the next generation of takers?

Do we look the other way at immoral behavior because we don’t want anyone judging us? Do we make a moral equivalence argument by believing that since we are not perfect, we don’t dare judge another?

Do we believe that shame is an outdated concept?

All of these and more need to be addressed before we can truly confront the zombie government. After all, the zombie government obviously reflects the will of the people.

By all means, shield your honest gain as much as legally possible but don’t assume you can hold the fort forever while zombie citizens multiply unchallenged by decent citizens who are willing to stand by their beliefs even at a steep cost to themselves. Until people are willing to say that morality and standards and self-sufficiency are good and right for the nation, and do what they can to demonstrate that by example, the zombies will increase and eventually besiege every redoubt.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 7:06:11 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Check your 401k.
Some have changed over such that
A) you can’t get anything out while you work for your present employer
B) there is no “cash equivalent” option available
C) the “safest” account in your available portfolio is a government bond or treasury bill

If you follow this, it is a de facto confiscation of your 401k.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 7:07:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: US Navy Vet
These threads are all over the place this morning...we need to 'merge' all these great ideas into a single thread, and make that thread readily accessible.

Quit paying the salaries of the media, ESPECIALLY Fox News; by canceling your cable today. DISH, DIRECT, whatever. Nuke them all.

Make plans to move to a 'red state', ASAP.

Mitt Romney's record of having won just ONE election remains intact. Open primaries strike again...

We need to repent as a Nation and as individuals.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 7:07:27 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: US Navy Vet

When you figure out how to shelter your finances please let us all know.

Even for people with pensions not funded by government confiscation there is no retirement without a vibrant economy.

They will tax your income, your investments and your property until you can’t afford it and then they will confiscate it for redistribution. Yes, the logical conclusion is that without buyers value will be destroyed but this does not matter to the proletariat in the short term. So long as the checks keep coming.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 7:09:00 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: US Navy Vet

Start a home Bible Study on a weeknight.

Better to find an existing one and join in.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 7:09:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: US Navy Vet

Barter. Go underground with your economic activity. Don’t get greedy, just do what you have to do to get by and stay under the radar.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 7:09:36 AM PST by henkster (If you let them do it to you, you got yourself to blame.)
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To: arichtaxpayer

I will not spend money on anything extra. I refuse to help the economy.
I will give only to my church and missions.
I will help my kids out rather than have my money sitting in the bank.
I will not support any companies that supported Obama.


Ditto. I will not help the economy any more than I absolutely have to, except for businesses run by people I know and trust as fellow conservatives. K-Mart and Wal-Mart... screw ya.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 7:09:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (Pray hard!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I will brew my own beer.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 7:11:07 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Petruchio

I am sorry you had to witness the fall of our beloved country, my friend.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 7:11:25 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Petruchio

I am so sorry, your post touched me. I lost both parents in the past 10 tears and feel like it was better for them not to see this happen.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 7:16:04 AM PST by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I hope you don’t live in California, prayer meetings could get you thrown in jail.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 7:17:37 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: Petruchio

“FYI, Chemo is more fun than it was to watch last night’s results”

That was the neat thing about last night. I didn’t have a candidate. It was a Democrat with 1 house running against a Democrat with 5 houses. I was just a spectator.

Note: I voted for the 5 house Democrat so don’t blame me.

I think the win even surprised the Democrats. Surprised and slightly disappointed them. They get to catch Hell for another 4 years. 2014 is going to be a major butt-kicking for them, just like 2006 for us.
And you better be here to watch it.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 7:17:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: who knows what evil?
Quit paying the salaries of the media, ESPECIALLY Fox News; by canceling your cable today. DISH, DIRECT, whatever. Nuke them all.

Hear, hear! I'll just have to wait for Seasons 5-7 of Sons of Anarchy to come out on DVD.

If I was able to give up cokes and red meat two weeks ago, I'll survive without cable.

Thank God I live in Texas, the last bastion of freedom in the US. The good news for me last night is "Senator-elect Ted Cruz."

I found it revealing that the coverage focused on Mourdock and Akin, with nary a mention of Cruz's solid victory. I guess it didn't fit the narrative that the Tea Party is dead.

39 posted on 11/07/2012 7:19:21 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Patriot Babe

“I feel our 401K will be threatened in the near future as our economy is on a verge of collaspe”

Every once in a while there are rumblings of government confiscating the money in private 401K and retirement accounts in exchange for a “guaranteed” distribution from the govt. Such trial balloons get shot down fairly quickly but I believe in time of crisis they will do it.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 7:21:28 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I forgot my addition to the list: Leave the republican party as soon as I can.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 7:22:57 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: Errant

okay, then it’s gonna get very ugly very fast. Just rewatch the Titanic movies and you’ll get a glimpse of that.

Stock up on supplies, be ready for anything to happen, have real intense conversations with your family. Prepare them for the worst, and hope for the best, and pray like your life depends on it cuz it does!

Just know that when times are bad you either see the worst in a person or the best in them. Character is revealed quickly. Know that when bad stuff happens, some people will freak out. Stay calm, breathe, and be objective.

In the end, none of this matters anyway cuz God is in charge and He has an overarching plan for all of us. Get into your bible, pray hard, develop your personal relationship with Jesus. That’s the best thing you can do!


42 posted on 11/07/2012 7:25:23 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Petruchio

“I am currently in Chemo for stage 4 cancer. I take comfort in that I will most likely die before the Country does.”

:( but we need you. We’ll need everyone we can get.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 7:25:30 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: US Navy Vet

I guess I’m the outlier here. I have lived by the book my whole life and worked since I was 10. I am now 61 and have decided to join the takers. All the young people in my family worship Obama( nieces and nephews, I have no kids), and support gay marriage, abortion etc.. So my intent is to get on every government dole I qualify for. If they want a socialist country and the ruination it brings then I will be more than happy to let them pay my way from now on. There is no America as I know it left anymore so why try to make believe otherwise. What we saw yesterday was a triumph of the welfare state and 40 years of public school indoctrination. We have become a third world banana republic. I hope the young people of America enjoy their descent into oblivion.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 7:26:46 AM PST by redangus
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To: US Navy Vet

Bump


45 posted on 11/07/2012 7:30:20 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Night Hides Not

Because i want to really help starve the traitorous beast that are the media companies i will violate the first rule of “U/S/E/N/E/T” for my FR brothers. Get yourself a cheap ssl’ed paid newsfeed service and pair it with ssl’ed nzbmatrix.com or any other nzb site to get whatever TV you must. Research this. Don’t flame me with ethics crap about this comment please. This is war!


46 posted on 11/07/2012 7:45:28 AM PST by brandon24
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To: US Navy Vet

With the apocalypse guaranteed, I just bought a used 2000 gallon fuel tank to be delivered tomorrow. We live on 28 acres and our car, truck, and two tractors are diesel. We will now buy in bulk when the price is low, and have reserves when times are bad.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 7:47:42 AM PST by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: sassy steel magnolia
God is in charge

That someone unknown like Obama could have taken the highest office in the land, and then a second time, means to me other powers are in play here. IMO, God is simply removing his divine protection from America and from the world as a whole.

Your suggestions and predictions are good and accurate. It's time to pool our knowledge and decide what can be done. For sure, God will shield those found worthy no matter where they are.

Look to God's written word for warnings and actions to pursue. Come out of Babylon...

48 posted on 11/07/2012 7:52:24 AM PST by Errant
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To: redangus
So my intent is to get on every government dole I qualify for.

Some people advocate this as a way of hastening the collapse of the system. While this may be true, I will not do it. If I go on the dole, I forsake my honor. I plan to leave this life with honor, as a self-sufficient, old school American.

49 posted on 11/07/2012 8:04:46 AM PST by matt1234
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To: US Navy Vet

Sounds like a plan....


50 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:29 AM PST by jersey117
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