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UN poll-watchers 'amazed' US doesn't require ID's to vote...
The Cable ^ | 11/06/2012 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 11/06/2012 1:13:18 PM PST by GraceG

For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

"It's an incredible system," said Nuri K. Elabbar, who traveled to the United States along with election officials from more than 60 countries to observe today's presidential elections as part of a program run by the International Foundation for Electoral Systems (IFES). Your humble Cable guy visited polling places with some of the international officials this morning. Most of them agreed that in their countries, such an open voting system simply would not work.

"It's very difficult to transfer this system as it is to any other country. This system is built according to trust and this trust needs a lot of procedures and a lot of education for other countries to adopt it," Elabbar said.

The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification. Voters can also vote by mail, sometimes online, and there's often no way to know if one person has voted several times under different names, unlike in some Arab countries, where voters ink their fingers when casting their ballots.

The international visitors also noted that there's no police at U.S. polling stations. In foreign countries, police at polling places are viewed as signs of security; in the United States they are sometimes seen as intimidating.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: election; election2012; ifes; voterfraud; voterid
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Gee, maybe this whole "Voter ID laws = Voter Suppression" meme from the left thing is gonna backfire on the Dims as their U.N. Poll Watcher Buddies disagree!
1 posted on 11/06/2012 1:13:24 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

We require ID in Michigan


2 posted on 11/06/2012 1:17:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GraceG

No shit, Sherlock.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 1:17:44 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Nancy Pelosi.... Botoxevik.)
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To: GraceG

In Florida ID is required. I used my DL and they swiped in through a validation machine that reads the magnetic strip to make sure it is not a forgery. Then it presented data on the screen which the poll worker compared to my DL and Voter card to make sure all information was valid, current and authentic.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 1:24:22 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: cripplecreek

I remember early on in my voting years in Texas that I had to show my driver’s license to prove myself. My Mom and Dad don’t remember that and they weren’t sure what to think about requiring showing an ID . . . because they are democrats. But it now makes sense to them that you must show an ID. Especially when I told them that attendees at the NAACP in Houston had to show IDs (democrat convention, too).


5 posted on 11/06/2012 1:25:09 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: GraceG

Wow. Even blind international squirrels find a nut once in a while!


6 posted on 11/06/2012 1:25:12 PM PST by Jake8898
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To: cripplecreek

Yep. And where I voted no one complained. Even as left-wing as it is.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 1:25:27 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: GraceG

That would be great! Need to get the report after the election. Of course I’m sure it’s subject to change with a little persuasion


8 posted on 11/06/2012 1:25:56 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

...after all was validated I signed a screen. Then a receipt was printed out from the machine, with my signature which the poll worker filed for election records.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 1:26:04 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: GraceG

ID required in red Georgia... They scanned mine and everything. Not sure it was all they intimidating....


10 posted on 11/06/2012 1:26:50 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I remember being amazed when I first voted I didn’t need to prove anything. I am just as amazed any thinking person votes democrat.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 1:27:05 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: VanDeKoik

Yeah its funny with all the fighting over voter ID we don’t catch hell over it in Michigan.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 1:27:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GraceG

First time I have ever agreed with the UN.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 1:28:31 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: GraceG

Alright! We’re #1, we’re #1!

Once again the USofA takes the lead! The US will teach those 3rd world banana republics how to cheat an election!

sump’n to be proud of.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 1:29:40 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

We have it good in FL. At my precinct we have paper ballots.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 1:29:47 PM PST by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: GraceG

I am totally good with the purple finger and no early voting.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 1:36:42 PM PST by Mercat
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To: GraceG

Unless states start requiring a real ID, voting will be seen as a joke. I doubt that any other country in the world allows anyone to waltz in, show a library card, and vote. What a joke.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 1:43:38 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: I want the USA back

We have to show our license in Louisiana.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 1:45:42 PM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: GraceG

ID required in Kansas, plus signature. So you have to be able to read and write.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 1:46:54 PM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: GraceG

It would be funny if we were brought up on charges of vote fraud and election stealing. ‘splain that one, 0bozo!


20 posted on 11/06/2012 1:49:13 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: cripplecreek

In Louisiana too, ID is required. Every year they even question my middle initial because I changed it to my maiden name initial. They watch everything where I live - in RED country!


21 posted on 11/06/2012 1:54:00 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: JusPasenThru

Well said JPT! I show a DL.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 1:56:04 PM PST by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Phillyred

Welcome to FR, newbie! Yes, “reds” are an exception in Philly!

I had to move away after 35 years in the City of Brotherly Love, a motto that has taken on a whole new meaning now that GLBT’s are running the City Council....


23 posted on 11/06/2012 2:00:07 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If God can send millions of ordinary folks to preserve a chicken store, He can fix this mess.)
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To: GraceG

Will a cable bill work? How about a bill for an 0bamaphone? Other countries take voting seriously. Here it’s a joke.
Here’s an idea. Require the same ID as needed to get on a plane and maybe the people will take voting seriously and go out and vote.

Wussy procedures tell people that voting is a joke.


24 posted on 11/06/2012 2:00:12 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: GraceG

Hahaha! Oh wow, you know it’s bad when U.N. workers point it out.


25 posted on 11/06/2012 2:00:27 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: cripplecreek
We require ID in Michigan

Thank God...We also have information on your absentee ballot........

Voter registration

26 posted on 11/06/2012 2:02:21 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: cripplecreek

In Michigan, you can still vote without an ID if you sign an affidavit. http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716-178123—,00.html

(I PROMISE, I’m not cheating!)


27 posted on 11/06/2012 2:03:08 PM PST by laker_dad
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To: GraceG
For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

Clearly, the rest of the world has a clue about human nature. As evidenced by all of the in-your-face cheating today, the Dems clearly value power over honesty.

We should have been using the purple thumb routine for years: you want to vote twice, come in with one less thumb.

28 posted on 11/06/2012 2:04:39 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Why do blacks think that a half-white multi-millionairre really cares about them?)
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To: GraceG
LOL! Even third world countries see we're a third world country with the voting policies of this administration ....


29 posted on 11/06/2012 2:05:05 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: GraceG

I.D. required here in Pa.


30 posted on 11/06/2012 2:06:42 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: laker_dad

The affidavit is almost never used because most folks committing vote fraud aren’t interested in signing what amounts to an admission of guilt. That’s why they were so upset about the citizenship check box, it was effectively a signed confession.


31 posted on 11/06/2012 2:08:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GraceG

In NC, we don’t have to show ID. We simply walk up, state our last name. At this time, they look for your very large print voter card. When they find it, they confirm your first name and address... which is easily read by someone 5 feet away. I feel so secure...


32 posted on 11/06/2012 2:08:36 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

GA does something similar, except the ID check uses an optical reader that checks the hash code on the back of your drivers license.


33 posted on 11/06/2012 2:08:42 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: GraceG
"For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike."

I'll post a response as soon as I decide whether its appropriate to laugh or to cry.

34 posted on 11/06/2012 2:12:31 PM PST by norton
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To: GraceG

You know it's bad when even the Libyans think we're screwing up!


35 posted on 11/06/2012 2:13:21 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: GraceG

Yet, in South Carolina, my Marine son was not allowed to vote because his military ID wasn’t good enough! He had to go home and get his voter registration card, go back to the polls and be approved by the supervisor!


36 posted on 11/06/2012 2:14:51 PM PST by MomofMarine
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, you’re right. I just wanted to add the exception to your statement. Voter turnout was heavy in my neck of the woods this morning. Hope that is a good sign!


37 posted on 11/06/2012 2:15:05 PM PST by laker_dad
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To: GraceG
The U.N. observers also noted that "there's often no way to know if one person has voted several times under different names,"

Delicious Irony.

38 posted on 11/06/2012 2:15:52 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer (After four years of Obama, this country could use some R & R.)
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To: SparkyBass

I live in Mexico, as an American expat. Your national ID with picture is require to vote. The voter log at the poll has your picture. You leave your thumb print when voting and your index finger is put in purple ink to prevent you from voting twice.


39 posted on 11/06/2012 2:16:19 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: laker_dad

Michigan FReeper check in thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2955695/posts?q=1&;page=1#1


40 posted on 11/06/2012 2:20:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ConservativeLawyer

Hilarious, isn’t it? In a pathetic kind of way.

I’m betting the UN observers will be getting a visit from some Democommie thugs today, reminding them what their “job” here is actually supposed to be!


41 posted on 11/06/2012 2:24:27 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link! Stay safe.


42 posted on 11/06/2012 2:24:37 PM PST by laker_dad
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To: GraceG
police at polling places are viewed as...intimidating.

Only if you have a guilty conscience and something to hide.

Regards,
GtG

43 posted on 11/06/2012 2:40:14 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Third World basket case Countries have more honest elections than the corrupt Democratic-Party policy run USA.


44 posted on 11/06/2012 2:44:50 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: cromero
I live in Mexico, as an American expat. Your national ID with picture is require to vote. The voter log at the poll has your picture. You leave your thumb print when voting and your index finger is put in purple ink to prevent you from voting twice.

Geez, even a third world country like Mexico has tighter voter security than we do... Pathetic...

Here in Oklahoma, you have to have a DL or photo ID, and they like you to have your voter registration card, and you sign the log book, but that is it...

45 posted on 11/06/2012 2:46:12 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: GraceG

Here in Oklahoma this is the first year a photo ID is required to vote. Showed the poll worker my military ID, she handed it back and said “Thank you” twice. Made me feel pretty good.


46 posted on 11/06/2012 3:45:59 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: cripplecreek

No ID required here in Los Angeles this afternoon.


47 posted on 11/06/2012 3:47:12 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: GraceG

I had to show ID in Texas


48 posted on 11/06/2012 3:55:30 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: numberonepal

Same here. Paper ballots, similar to the multiple choice questions from school. Then the individual voter fed his into the reader, which sat on top of a locked/secure container where the actual ballots were deposited after being read by the scanner, before they left the polling place.


49 posted on 11/06/2012 3:58:45 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: GraceG

My wife and I had to show a PICTURE ID to get in the door at the voting precinct today. Indiana


50 posted on 11/06/2012 4:02:14 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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