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Grid-Down Collapse: Hard Assets Soar In Value
SHTF Plan ^ | 11-6-2012 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 11/06/2012 11:40:32 AM PST by blam

Grid-Down Collapse: Hard Assets Soar In Value

Mac Slavo
November 5th, 2012

By all accounts, the residents of many hurricane stricken areas of the north east are in the midst of a collapse. While FEMA, the National Guard and private relief organizations are in place and providing some level of assistance, the fact of the matter is that for tens of thousands of Americans, the world as they knew it has completely collapsed around them.

What we are witnessing are the immediate after-effects of what is referred to as a grid-down scenario, where utility infrastructure like water and electricity, transportation infrastructure like food and gas delivery, and commerce infrastructure like electronic banking and brick & mortar trade are no longer functioning.

In some areas there has been a total breakdown in emergency response. Without communications it has become impossible for emergency responders to be contacted. For all intents and purposes, law and order broke down within just a few hours of Hurricane Sandy passing over the east coast. Likewise, medical response was unavailable due to overwhelming demand put on the system by hundreds of people reporting simultaneous emergencies.

Almost immediately after the worst of the storm passed, people in the hardest hit areas began to realize how bad things were. Within 72 hours we had complete chaos. People were fighting for gas, digging through trashcans and standing in FEMA supply lines for hours at a time just for a bottle of water and an emergency ration kit.

The hunt for resources had begun.

Looters were hitting grocery and convenience stores, thieves and armed robbers were breaking into personal residences, and tempers flared.

With essential supplies running low and government support lacking, black markets have sprung up to fill the gap.

What has been theorized in previous commentary about what becomes money when the system collapses, became a reality over the last week.

When it hits the fan the only things of value will be the hard assets in your physical possession.

In one report, the cost of a bag of potatoes jumped to $7, up from $3 before the storm hit. The cost of the box of matches appears more than three times the usual cost, and the loaf of bread is more than double the usual cost. (NBC)

I waited in line for 2 hours to fill up a 5 Gallon gas container. I’m willing to sell it for the right price and will deliver! $25 per Gallon OR Shoot us your best offer!! (The Daily Sheeple)

Just got back from trying to deliver 2 generators to Long Island. 220 mile drive one way. Deal was brokered, $7000 cash, for a business owner to open his shop. (SHTF plan)

This is crazy, it’s like post-apocalyptic scenarios, you know with this gas. It’s as important as food and water to people. It’s a dogfight out here (CS Monitor)

Residents in the Queens neighborhood of the Rockaways are using anything they can get their hands on to protect their homes after Sandy devastated their area, including bows and arrows… Locals say they are arming themselves with guns, baseball bats, booby traps — even a bow and arrow — to defend against looters. (Liberty Blitzkrieg)

The largest number of complaints are related to increased gasoline prices, he said in a statement, but consumers also have reported possible gouging for emergency supplies like generators and hotels raising rates due to “high demand,” as well as increased prices for food and water. (Huffpost)

[Editor's Note: During the first economic and financial panic to hit Greece in 2010, citizens of the country scrambled to convert their currency to gold when they thought the system was about to go under... A large portion of Greek commerce has since moved into underground markets.]

Prices at which the Greek Central Bank is selling one ounce gold equivalents are as high as $1,700 (40% over spot), and prices on the black markets are even higher. (Zero Hedge)

Arguing the right and wrong of “price gouging” is off no consequence. What matters is that prices for key supplies will rise exponentially as their supply dwindles. This is a natural effect of rising demand, especially if that demand is driven by panic buying.

Food, gas, clean water, batteries, self defense armaments, shelter, clothing, ammo, precious metals and related preparedness supplies are a must-have in any grid-down scenario. First and foremost you can use these and other supplies to survive or at the very least, remain comfortable. Second, you can use these items for trade as their value soars.

The north east will recover in due time, just as New Orleans did after Hurricane Katrina. This emergency is limited in scope and the government was already actively employing emergency response plans prior to the disaster. However, as we have seen over the week since Sandy struck, there is simply no way for government to be able to manage a crisis that is spread over a wide area and involves tens of thousands of ‘victims.’

What we’ve learned is that when it comes down to it, those in areas affected by a disaster will have no one else to rely on but themselves.

Having key supplies and tools prepared in advance of an emergency is absolutely critical to your well-being and survival.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chaos; collapse; gold; preppers; prepping; shortages; shtf; silver
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To: Sarajevo

Putting them on my ‘list’... thx!

My eyes just glaze-over in the cereal aisle; too many choices! Candy aisles are even worse.


61 posted on 11/06/2012 3:07:56 PM PST by Carriage Hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: carriage_hill

I installed a Rinnai two years ago and our family loves it. Two people can shower at once, in separate showers of course, so there is no problem with demand. We had an 8 year old electric tank water heater and my electric bill has declined sharply and my gas bill didn’t go up that much. I installed a 97% efficient modulating York furnace a year before the tankless water heater. The next project will be a two stage heatpump, but I didn’t think about efficiency because I need a larger blower motor and bigger furnace body to achieve a high SEER to get a good rebate.


62 posted on 11/06/2012 4:19:14 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: carriage_hill

Looks like you’ve got large jars of mayo down there in the corner next to the Minute Rice; are you expecting to have refrigeration for after you open them?


63 posted on 11/06/2012 4:23:45 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper

>> “Decoration for your beltline when you pants are down around your knees.” <<

I guess that after last night, we should all start wearing our pants in that fashion.

Prepper threads seem less and less “Out There” as we go along. Still can’t seem to stop shaking my head.


64 posted on 11/07/2012 6:39:45 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: blam

Yamkees in Utopia .....screw ‘em


65 posted on 11/07/2012 6:44:00 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: blam

bfl


66 posted on 11/07/2012 7:21:50 AM PST by txmissy
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To: Kartographer

Hope you don’t mind if I go off-topic.

I’m looking for some vet meds to have on hand, but don’t want to have to invest a ton of money since it appears they last 12-18 months only.

Out of this list, which 2 would you say would be best to have?
Penicillin 500mg Fish Pen Forte
Amoxicillin 500mg Fish Mox Forte
Ciprofloxacin 500mg Fish Flox Forte
Cephalexin, or Keflex 500mg Fish Flex Forte
Ampicillin 250 mg Fish-Cillin
Metronidazole 250 mg Fish-Zole


67 posted on 11/07/2012 1:48:00 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

They last far longer than that.

Many Medicines Are Potent
Years Past Expiration Dates

http://www.terrierman.com/antibiotics-WSJ.htm


68 posted on 11/07/2012 2:19:44 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: yorkiemom
If it's a "cillin" it's penicillin related.
Amoxicillin wold be the best for upper respiratory infections and it has broad spectrum activity.
Ciprofloxacin is great for urinary tract infections, lower respiratory infections, and infectious diarrhea.
Cephalexin is good for skin and skin structure infections, and is a good alternative to penicillins for those with a penicillin sensitivity.
Metronadizole is useful for anerobic infections such as peritonitis, diverticulitis, empyema, pneumonia, aspiration pneumonia, lung abscess, diabetic foot ulcer, meningitis and brain abscesses, bone and joint infections, septicemia, endometritis, endocarditis, and giardiasis.

I don't know what you are looking for, but there is a whole myriad of antibiotics, some which work better than others for certain infections. They will generally last over 5 years if kept in a cool, dark place. The dates just ensure rotation of stocks.

69 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:41 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Kartographer

Yup, I saw that before. I use most medicines and canned food long after it ‘expires’. Haven’t had any problems yet.

But I still don’t want to have bottles of 100 of each type if they are interchangable.


70 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:59 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

Read through this article it has a list of antibiotics that cover 90% of infections.


71 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:35 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

oh, ok - I thought you were only talking about the expiratoion dates. Will do - thanks.


72 posted on 11/07/2012 4:50:54 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Kartographer

Maybe I missed it; maybe you’re thinking of another article?

I didn’t see the antibiotic list.

The only one mentioned by name and its uses was:
“Albert Poirier, quality-assurance director for Bayer’s pharmaceutical division, says he isn’t surprised because Cipro “is a stable drug molecule” in tablet form. “We go for a shelf life that will be safest for patients,” he says. “We want the drug to be used up within three years. We wouldn’t want a patient to have it for 10 years because they’d have an old package insert” that might omit new information or contra-indications and because “we’d have no control over how they’d store the drug during this time.”

So, I should throw out a perfectly good drug b/c the insert may not be current? Silliness.


73 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:53 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Sarajevo

Thanks for the list.

I’m looking for two, maybe three medicines to buy and keep for when TSHTF. If possible - perhaps all that you listed are only good for the individual infections you listed, that it’s not possible....


74 posted on 11/07/2012 5:02:19 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

My mistake!!!

How to Stockpile Antibiotics for Long Term Survival

http://daily-survival.blogspot.com/2012/10/how-to-stockpile-antibiotics-for-long.html


75 posted on 11/07/2012 5:17:45 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: yorkiemom

Cipro and cephalexin(Keflex)would be my choices.


76 posted on 11/09/2012 1:58:52 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: blam

Why do I think these last few weeks gave birth to many new preppers to be in the NY-NJ area?


77 posted on 11/10/2012 1:19:31 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Sarajevo

thank you


78 posted on 11/11/2012 2:34:57 PM PST by yorkiemom
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