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Florida and North Carolina too close to call (Fl D+6 & NC D+13)
PPP polls ^ | Nov. 5th 2012 | PPPpolls

Posted on 11/04/2012 10:13:59 PM PST by barmag25

PPP's final polls of the cycle in Florida and North Carolina suggest that they may be the closest states in the country this year. In Florida Obama leads 50/49, but to be more specific 473 respondents chose Obama and 472 picked Romney. It's a similar story in North Carolina- the candidates are tied at 49 there based on rounded numbers, but if you break it out to decimal points Romney's up 49.4% to 49.2% with 457 respondents having chosen him to 455 for Obama. Both states are likely in for a long night on Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at publicpolicypolling.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; election; polls

1 posted on 11/04/2012 10:14:07 PM PST by barmag25
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To: barmag25

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_FLNC_1105.pdf


2 posted on 11/04/2012 10:16:43 PM PST by barmag25
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To: barmag25

These heavily skewed polls are necessary to create the plausibility needed to cover massive voter fraud.


3 posted on 11/04/2012 10:16:43 PM PST by null and void (Day 1384 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: barmag25

Probably wont know until wednesday


4 posted on 11/04/2012 10:17:04 PM PST by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: barmag25

Could be my imagination bias, but it seems like the D count keeps increasing in every poll they do to make it look even.


5 posted on 11/04/2012 10:19:36 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: barmag25

NC is not going Obama. I will place a 50 buck wager to the first two respondents.


6 posted on 11/04/2012 10:19:43 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: barmag25

Fuzzy math. Obama leads by one person out of almost 1000 and that gives him a 1% lead, but Romney in the other state leads by two persons and that means the race there is tied?


7 posted on 11/04/2012 10:20:16 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Utmost Certainty

That’s because Obama’s real numbers keep getting worse.


8 posted on 11/04/2012 10:21:02 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: barmag25
Would wearing this get me bounced from the polling place?
9 posted on 11/04/2012 10:21:52 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: eyedigress

and you must be a donor in order for non-partisan verification.


10 posted on 11/04/2012 10:22:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: barmag25

oops.. my HTML not working again.


11 posted on 11/04/2012 10:22:50 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

They had Scott Walker getting recalled then explained it away they couldn’t count voter intensity


12 posted on 11/04/2012 10:25:38 PM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: null and void

I have a feeling that these PPP polls are worth far less than nothing


13 posted on 11/04/2012 10:28:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: scooby321

Obama is going to lose Wisconsin as well.


14 posted on 11/04/2012 10:29:01 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: barmag25

PeePeePee polls just smell bad.


15 posted on 11/04/2012 10:35:04 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: null and void

Q3 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 47%
Disapprove...................................................... 50%
Not sure .......................................................... 3%

Q4 Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Mitt Romney?
Favorable........................................................ 50%
Unfavorable .................................................... 46%
Not sure .......................................................... 4%

Q11 If you are a Democrat, press 1. If a Republican,
press 2. If you are an independent or identify
with another party, press 3.
Democrat ........................................................ 44%
Republican...................................................... 38%
Independent/Other.......................................... 18%

I always vote for the peron I disapprove of don’t you?


16 posted on 11/04/2012 10:36:44 PM PST by funfan
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To: eyedigress

Can I get in on your side.


17 posted on 11/04/2012 10:52:11 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: barmag25
In 2008, Obama won FL 51-48. He took NC by less than 0.5%. The PPP numbers don't seem credible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008

18 posted on 11/04/2012 10:53:38 PM PST by Ken H
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To: barmag25
PPP is an openly pro-Democrat Party firm. Usually reliable, all the Obama worshipers have skin in his wicked game at the moment.

I could end up eating my words, of course, but I think I can just about guarantee Obama will lose NC by 3-4 points, at least.

Florida's off the table now, also.

Since the mid-seventies, or so, when the Legacy Media reports races "too-close-to-call" it almost always means their Party is losing.

19 posted on 11/04/2012 11:04:15 PM PST by Prospero
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I need two respondents first. I would love to share a free liberal lunch on Wednesday. Raleigh is open for me.


20 posted on 11/04/2012 11:27:40 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Prospero

Since the mid-seventies, or so, when the Legacy Media reports races “too-close-to-call” it almost always means their Party is losing.

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MMMM. That is interesting. Until I retired, I never really paid attention to polls, but that is a very good conclusion and likely scenario.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 11:41:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: barmag25

Florida will be Romney


22 posted on 11/05/2012 12:08:21 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: funfan

I always vote for the peron I disapprove of don’t you?


Depends upon who the pollster is.


23 posted on 11/05/2012 12:21:41 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Why keep quoting “PPP” polls? Do Freepers live on distress?


24 posted on 11/05/2012 12:26:34 AM PST by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: ChiMark

It’s a pain because popular sites like Real Clear Politics use them in their averages. So when PPP, Marist and the NY Slimes oversample their polls it kills RCP.

What I want to see is what kind of lame excuse they will use.
#1 guess in my book. Blame it on Sandy


25 posted on 11/05/2012 2:10:57 AM PST by TheShaz
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To: scooby321

So they admit that their polling methodology is worthless then if it can’t do stuff like predict the outcome of elections.


26 posted on 11/05/2012 2:17:19 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: barmag25

I would be very, very surprised if the final voting tallies are anywhere close to PPP’s numbers. NC should be solidly in Romney’s column election night and I suspect Romney will have a decent margin of victory in Florida. Too many other polls have pointed to North Carolina being all but lost to Obama and Romney performing well in the Florida “corridor” to buy PPP’s poll.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 2:27:19 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: ChiMark
Why keep quoting “PPP” polls? Do Freepers live on distress?

Nope. We know they are full of crap and just like to gauge how full of crap they are.
http://qualityshows.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/bullshit-meter-01.gif
28 posted on 11/05/2012 2:40:16 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: barmag25
D+13

             

29 posted on 11/05/2012 2:41:17 AM PST by tomkat ( PAlabama '12 = RR = 300 +)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

30 posted on 11/05/2012 2:43:05 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: funfan

Do you think they are over sampling in the job performance and under sampling in the favorable numbers posted


31 posted on 11/05/2012 2:59:58 AM PST by Swingj (Obama going down...)
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To: barmag25

Romney up by 5 in Florida:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2955002/posts


32 posted on 11/05/2012 3:12:06 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: barmag25

Too close my eye...Romney will win FLORIDA.


33 posted on 11/05/2012 3:13:08 AM PST by Florida native
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To: tomkat

I thought after yesterdays CNN D+11 national poll that I had seen the most biased polling but PPP has out did them. LOL

I think Romney wins North Carolina by 10 or more points after seeing this poll. Florida by at least 5.


34 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:20 AM PST by barmag25
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To: Florida native

I’m in FL - first Orlando, now Naples.

Obama signs nowhere, Romney signs all over the place. People opening talking about the hell of the last 4 years.


35 posted on 11/05/2012 3:28:03 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Florida native

I’m in FL - first Orlando, now Naples.

Obama signs nowhere, Romney signs all over the place. People openly talking about the hell of the last 4 years.


36 posted on 11/05/2012 3:29:37 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: ScottfromNJ

As an actively engaged and informed activist in Florida, literally in the middle of the Florida battle, it amuses me that the Left plays these games with the polling numbers.

As mentioned here by others, such shenanigans are good cover for the voter fraud in which the Democrats engage as a part of their ongoing strategy. They also use these sad tactics to keep their base encouraged and continuing to volunteer until the end of the race.

Trust me... Obama is not ahead or even tied in Florida. Romney will win Florida by +7 or more...

Enough to cancel out the Democrat voter fraud...

Enough to allow for a clear determination about the results in Florida tomorrow night after the polls close - no waiting for days.

Enough to deliver 29 electoral votes from Florida to the Romney/Ryan ticket that will result in a clear win for “The Come Back Team” with a total of 330+ electoral votes;

And, will result in an announcement tomorrow night that we have (finally) a new President-Elect... Mitt Romney...


37 posted on 11/05/2012 3:35:10 AM PST by SterlingSilver (If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... its a duck!)
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To: barmag25

IF NC is considered one of the closest in the nation, Then it WILL BE a Romney landslide.NC will go for Romney by a MINIMUM 8%.


38 posted on 11/05/2012 3:58:13 AM PST by weezel
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To: barmag25
A national repudiation of Ødious and everything the communist racist muzz sissy represents.

     300 +

39 posted on 11/05/2012 3:58:26 AM PST by tomkat ( PAlabama '12 = RR = 300 +)
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To: barmag25

Obama won NC by about 4000 votes . This time around I see aFRACTION of the Obama signs and bumper stickers I saw last time, and far more Romney stuff then McCain had. At least here the pollster must be on crack....


40 posted on 11/05/2012 4:29:16 AM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: ChiMark

RCP doesn’t even weigh PPP polling in their average. Outside of the Stalinists at DU and the Goebbels crowd at Politico I never see them quoted-—except by a few Freepers for some reason.


41 posted on 11/05/2012 4:45:26 AM PST by hcmama
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To: scooby321

PPP is basically three liberals from Chapel Hill with an automated dialing program. If not for DU and Politico, they would get no buzz at all.


42 posted on 11/05/2012 4:47:24 AM PST by hcmama
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To: hcmama

Most Freepers post PPP polls as comic relief. D+13 in NC to show a tie is hilarious.


43 posted on 11/05/2012 4:51:31 AM PST by barmag25
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To: Prospero

Did anyone ever collect on that guarantee?


44 posted on 02/17/2014 6:34:15 PM PST by icowrich
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