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Pentagon on Benghazi Troop Movements: ‘Swift Action’ on Night of Attack (Didn't try to save lives)
ABC News ^ | Friday, November 2, 2012 | Luis Martinez

Posted on 11/02/2012 7:14:29 PM PDT by kristinn

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On Friday, Pentagon spokesman George Little provided new details of U.S. military movements made the night of the attack in case they were needed.

Little said that within a few hours of the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered U.S. military forces to move to Sicily in preparation for an uncertain situation in Libya.

“This department took swift action,” said Little. “It did respond, the secretary ordered forces to move.

“We were prepared for a range of contingencies in the course of this very tragic incident,” said Little. “We were ready for the need to augment security measures at our facilities in Libya, if called upon. We were prepared for the possibility, for instance, of a hostage situation, as well...

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As previously reported, one of the units came from a U.S. military base in “Central Europe.” And Little disclosed that Panetta also ordered another team from the United States to head to Sigonella. Little refused to describe what kind of unit was sent from the U.S., though it was presumably a special operations team trained for hostage rescues.

Little said both the units “did not arrive until after the entire sequence of events was complete. … They were in Sigonella many hours after the attacks.”

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Little reaffirmed that no other American aircraft were involved over Libya the night of the attack beyond the unarmed surveillance drone that arrived 90 minutes into the attack. As for reports that an AC-130 gunship could have been dispatched over Libya at the time of the attack, Little was clear that “there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazi4; christophersmith; glendoherty; kenyanbornmuzzie; libya; rememberbenghazi; seansmith; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi; tyronewoods; waronterror

1 posted on 11/02/2012 7:14:31 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kabar

It gets worse. Pentagon says they reacted with plans for “hostage situation”. No attempt to save lives or intervene in attack.


2 posted on 11/02/2012 7:20:07 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: Travis McGee
Little said that within a few hours of the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered U.S. military forces to move to Sicily in preparation for an uncertain situation in Libya.

This doesn't wash. When the Critical Incident Report went out from the consulate in the first 30 minutes of the attack those forces would have automatically been put in motion by their force commanders in Europe.

3 posted on 11/02/2012 7:21:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: kristinn

When you ignore warnings begging for more security and, instead, actually reduce security then you are not likely to be pro active at the perimeter. There should be forces available within two hours reach of Libya at all times. And probably are.

Can you believe this spokesman in any case?


4 posted on 11/02/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: TigersEye

It’s obvious why they aren’t making statements.

Every time they do, they get caught in more spider-webs.


5 posted on 11/02/2012 7:24:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: DoughtyOne
That's why the FES team wasn't used to back up the FBI investigators and get them in there in two days. Instead it takes them 24 days to get on scene.

That's why Lindsey Graham can make one phone call and get access to one of the attackers in custody in Tunisia within 48 hours and in almost two months 0coward never even made a call to Tunisia.

It's a coverup from start to today.

6 posted on 11/02/2012 7:30:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: kristinn

Last night it was the CIA’s operation. (so said either the WaPo or NYT’s, I forget which one)


7 posted on 11/02/2012 7:30:45 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: DoughtyOne

Anyone who didn’t watch Greta tonight needs to catch the rerun. She is on fire!


8 posted on 11/02/2012 7:32:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine

She even cursed.


9 posted on 11/02/2012 7:33:53 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: kristinn

That tells me they EXPECTED hostages. The two SEALs obviously didn’t get the memo.


10 posted on 11/02/2012 7:35:29 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: kristinn

Since Sicily is in Europe there could have been C-130s there and he could have called that, a continent away.

It sounds like they decided swiftly to do nothing.


11 posted on 11/02/2012 7:37:27 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Toespi

Yeah, she did. Wow.


12 posted on 11/02/2012 7:37:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: kristinn

Perhaps they reacted with plans for “hostage situation “ because hostage situation WAS the plan.


13 posted on 11/02/2012 7:39:08 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: MestaMachine

I saw Greta. I’ve never heard her say “damn” before. Foreign policy journalists were at the consulate last week. They found documents relevant to the investigation even after the FBI supposedly went through. It’s like they don’t give a rat’s arse. This cover up is shameful. Outrageous. Obama should not be POTUS.


14 posted on 11/02/2012 7:43:19 PM PDT by virgil
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To: MestaMachine

They probably thought there might be a hostage situtation since nobody could find the ambassador for hours.


15 posted on 11/02/2012 7:49:52 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: kristinn

Don’t pay any attention to anything the Obama administration says about this until they answer the questions why Chris Stevens was meeting with the Turks in Benghazi instead of Tripoli? What as being stored at the CIA annex and where and who was it going to?


16 posted on 11/02/2012 7:50:07 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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To: kristinn

Leon didn’t dispatch any C-130s because he doesn’t get frequent flyer miles on those. A Secretary of Defense who leaves his family in California and flies home to see them on the weekends while young men are being killed in Afghanistan. He is absolutely worthless.


17 posted on 11/02/2012 7:52:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigersEye

Right on target IMO. Even the simplest of questions have been met with, “Our investigation..., nobody wants to get bottom of this more than I do..., yada yada yada.

Hell, to hear him tell it, we know more about it than he does. Some investigation huh.


19 posted on 11/02/2012 8:04:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: yarddog
Why dispatch forces to Sicily instead of using the forces that we had in Sicily? We did have F18s and this is a fact. F18s can and are armed with precision Hell Fire Missiles. We could have had an F-18 on target withing 1 hour of departure from Sicily. They can put a Hell Fire on your ass within a few feet, thus no danger of innocent collateral damage. They also can drop munition that will ruin your whole day and the day of those many meters away. We may have had AC 130 Gunships available but the administration refuses to say. The Administration says our predator drones were not carrying arms. Why were they not carrying arms? They can carry the Hell Fire missiles and have been used frequently over the last 4 years to kill terrorists.

This administration, I BELIEVE THEM NOT!

Leon Panetta es un gusano que miente!!!!!!!!!!!

20 posted on 11/02/2012 8:13:10 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: MestaMachine

My thoughts too. When Panetta early on talked about them coming up with plans that satisfied the 24-hour requirement, I was thinking that might fit a hostage situation but not a deadly attack. I think Panetta might have accidentally revealed that they were counting on this being a hostage situation. It would explain Obama going to bed instead of seeing this thing through to the end.


21 posted on 11/02/2012 8:18:47 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: cpdiii

My Brother-in-Law was a naval aviator. I know he was stationed in Sicily back in the 60s or 70s. He flew Neptunes but I bet there were a lot of other aircraft there too.

Do the Marines or Navy have a version of a gunship? I bet they do but don’t know for sure.


22 posted on 11/02/2012 8:21:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Apaches et al do Thunderstruck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv9cQ2A2L2A


23 posted on 11/02/2012 8:31:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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USMC Gunship: Bad Guys Run, Good Guys Weep
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/05/20/usmc-gunship-bad-guys-run-good-guys-weep/


24 posted on 11/02/2012 8:33:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: yarddog

There is the MC-130 Spectre


25 posted on 11/02/2012 8:56:00 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: butterdezillion

didn’t the entire attack(s) last about 11 hours in total?


26 posted on 11/02/2012 9:04:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kristinn
Pentagon says they reacted with plans for “hostage situation”

That actually fits with the theory I've seen kicked around that our government knew the attack was going to happen and that the goal was to take hostages allowing Obama to trade the Blind Sheikh for our Ambassador and any other hostages.

Back door deal with the Muslim Brotherhood and their moles in our government.

Tin foil hat kind of stuff but back on 9/17 it was being reported that the administration was in negotiations for release of the Blind Sheikh, 6 days after the failed kidnapping of Chris Stevens.

Pretty thin, but with this administration nothing surprises me anymore.

27 posted on 11/02/2012 9:10:18 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: MestaMachine

This hostage theory has been here on FR almost since day 1.

How did that theory come about or what is the logic behind it? I’m trying to understand...


28 posted on 11/02/2012 9:12:08 PM PDT by uncitizen (Romney - Remember Benghazi!)
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To: kristinn

Lou Dobbs had a high level ex-Pacific fleet admiral on his show who said we could’ve buzzed the damn place with a jet and scattered the crowd to buy us time within an hour.

Then we could’ve sent the troops we ALREADY HAD IN ITALY and they could’ve been there in two hours.

And if Petraus is “hiding behind the cloak of secrecy” as reports have asserted today, then why did Hillary claim full responsibility??

This is an absolute cluster you-know-what.


29 posted on 11/02/2012 9:13:05 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: kristinn

Additionally, this admiral asserted that high level military of every branch of service is “infected” with political correctness. Spot-on interview, Lou Dobbs rocks and takes no prisoners on his show.


30 posted on 11/02/2012 9:16:21 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: uncitizen

As I understand it, the muslim brotherhood in Egypt wanted the freedom of the blind sheik who is in prison in NYC for the first WTC bombing. So they came up with this plan which included the video, (that would have been blamed on ‘the Jews’,) to start riots to cover for the kidnapping of Stevens in Libya. THEN obama could ‘negotiate’ freedom for the sheik in return for Stevens and appear to be a hero all before election day. However, the SEALs defied orders to stand down, interfered with this plan, and they all died.
That’s the short version. It is really much more complicated than that.


31 posted on 11/02/2012 9:27:39 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks. that helps. If you’ll indulge a couple follow ups :

Is there any evidence of this, or is it only an idea?
and, how do they figure that negotiating the release of a terrorist, even in exchange for Americans, be a win for Obama?

Thanks again, FRiend!


32 posted on 11/02/2012 9:33:28 PM PDT by uncitizen (Romney - Remember Benghazi!)
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To: kristinn

Only one thing worse than being a liar...and that is being a coward. Especially if you are the CIC.


33 posted on 11/02/2012 9:48:26 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: kristinn
total BS.

Rapid Response teams are positioned in strategic points to be REPAIDLY dropped in to act in just these kind of events. They didn't have to be SENT from far off parts.

Sigonella Naval Base (Italy) is on the Island of Sicily just across the Mediterranean from Libya.
Rapid Response team also in Africom (U.S.African Command, over EAst Africa) - was ready to go.

Excerpt: “[Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White
House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow.
Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his
second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now
relieved of his command.
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/africom-commander-gen-carter-ham-relieved-of-duty-for-wanting-to-help-our-ambassador-to-libya/question-3279495/

Same deal with the ADmiral positioned at sea - was going in anyway - also fired.

These two actions by obama tell the story. ONLY the president can make the ‘stand down’ order. Only the president can summarily fire such military leaders. And that TWO such leaders were fired with minutes during this attack begs incredulity to think it was just coincidental

34 posted on 11/02/2012 9:49:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does.)
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To: kristinn

” - - - if called upon.” A ‘Little’ lie, by George.

What did Benghazi-Coward Obama say to Pansy Panetta?


35 posted on 11/02/2012 9:57:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: kristinn

The oval officer did what he did best when in the Illinois senate, voted present, then left.


36 posted on 11/02/2012 10:37:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SauronOfMordor

....or, the upper command said to plan for a “hostage situation” to divert from the intended elimination of witnesses to a high stakes gunrunning operation


37 posted on 11/02/2012 10:44:47 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: kristinn
"“there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night.

Seriously hollowed out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find this hard to believe. Not 1 AC-130 in Europe?

38 posted on 11/02/2012 10:52:50 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: virgil

Yeah, Greta, who is usually “the calm one” on FoxNews at night was ripping.


39 posted on 11/02/2012 10:54:51 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: kristinn

I have heard liars give more details in each retelling of a tale.


40 posted on 11/03/2012 4:08:01 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: huldah1776; All

‘The Obama Doctrine: American Lives Are Expendable’

The Obama White House, the Clinton State Department, and Panetta’s Department of Defense have guiding principles in Afghanistan that, if applied to Benghazi, explain the administration’s decision to deny air support to the Americans fighting for their lives on 9/11/12.

The denial of air support to our troops in battle is normal operating procedure for this commander in chief. He doesn’t have to give special orders to do it. It is the Obama Doctrine on the War on Terror: do not kill Muslim civilians. Let American soldiers die instead. That is how Obama thinks he will win the hearts and minds of the Islamic world.

...

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_obama_doctrine_american_lives_are_expendable.html#ixzz2BAQgxHrJ


41 posted on 11/03/2012 6:52:12 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Rules of Engagement, set up by Petraeus. His fingerprints are all over this one.

There is a father of a Marine who is currently engaged in getting the public involved in spreading the word about the ROE. Go to http://letthemfight.blogspot.com/


42 posted on 11/03/2012 7:23:03 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: kristinn
"Little refused to describe what kind of unit was sent from the U.S., though it was presumably a special operations team trained for hostage rescues."

The White House stalled because their plan was to have the Ambassador captured and Obama ordering a heroic rescue. The men with "CUE BALLS" foiled the plan.

43 posted on 11/03/2012 7:50:31 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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