Skip to comments.Top AFRICOM Commander General Carter Ham Was Never Ordered to Save US Men in Benghazi (Video)
Posted on 10/28/2012 11:24:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
1:43 interview of Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Fox News by Shannon Breem Sunday Oct 28, 2012.
AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. This is what the general told Rep. Jason Chaffetz after the 9-11 Benghazi terror attack.
That means only Barack Obama or Defense Secretary Panetta, the two men above the AFRICOM commander, never ordered an operation to secure the consulate. This was despite the many pleas for assistance coming from the consulate and annex.
The Obama Administration replaced General Carter Ham with General David Rodriguez at AFRICOM on October 18.
The US had troops in Sigonella, Italy about an hour away on 9-11.
The attack went on for at least four hours but US forces were never called in.
Graphic Source - UK Armed Forces Commentary
Oct 7, 2012 - GretaWire: Check out the email I just received from FNCs Chad Pergram
Urgent: Fox Exclusive: Chaffetz returns from Libya after fact-find mission ahead of Wednesday hearing on 9-11 attacks
Per Pergram-Capitol Hill
Ive just spoken with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT, pronounced CHAY-fetz), chair of the House Oversight subcommittee looking into the 9-11 attacks in Libya. That panel holds a hearing on the subject Wednesday.
Chaffetz travelled with Gen. Carter Ham, the head of Africom (The US Command over Africa) in Tripoli. Had hoped to go to Benghazi but it is too dangerous.
Chaffetz says it was clear those on the ground there were asking for more support to secure the building in Beghaniz It was denied. They asked for more personnel. They asked for more personnel and were denied.
Rather than letting security dictate security, they let politics dictate security.
Chaffetz also tells an interesting story about the US Embassy in Tripoli.
He says the south end of the complex backs up to a private home and a yard. They had put a ladder up against this wall. The person who lived there would put up a ladder and dump his garbage in on the property of the embassy. He says there was no barbed wire.
He says the US let them dump garbage there just because they wanted to be a good neighbor.
Chaffetz says the idea that protests were spurred by the video is dubious at best.
Senior Producer for Capitol Hill
October 19, 2012: Gen. David M. Rodriguez nominated to lead U.S. Africa Command
Of COURSE O ordered them to stand down. That’s why he couldn’t look the parent of a dead hero in the eyes. O is just a disgusting liar that is incapable of taking responsibilities for his action. ANYONE that votes for him is a complete fool.
How many miles away is sigonella airbase? An hour away, by what? Boat, plane, helicopter...
Were their carriers off Libya that were even closer?
Allegedly, there are standing orders that exist for the case no commanding officer is available. If I’m not mistaken, it’s been indicated that Obama had standing orders in place.
Ref: Recent Rush Limbaugh Show with lengthy insider interview.
This blog speculates that Stevens was part of a covert effort to get former Libyan weapons into the hands of Syrian “rebels”. But, that Iran or Russia didn’t want that to happen, and so formed an “nation state” attack on the facility.
We didn’t send a rescue because we were afraid of a full scale war with Iran. I think that is what he is saying.
Either that or we feared that the forces were planning to ambush the rescue forces and create a Black Hawk Down repeat. So we did nothing instead to cover up the covert arms smuggling operation and prevent an embarrassing episode for Obama right before the election.
Not sure if this is credible.
The hidden real truth
.....The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafis fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.......
The Security Failures of Benghazi
October 10, 2012 Wednesday
Hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Subject: The Security Failures of Benghazi Chaired by: Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) Witnesses: Charlene Lamb, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for International Programs, Bureau of Diplomatic Security; Eric Nordstrom, Regional Security Officer, State Department; Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood, Utah National Guard, U.S. Army Location: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, D.C. Time: 12:00 p.m. EDT Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012.
REPRESENTATIVE DARRELL ISSA (R-CA): The committee will come to order. Would you please take your seats?...........................
Putin and Iran want Zero to be reelected. They would never
try such a risky stunt before the election. They know he’d be more ‘flexible’
after the election (he’d bend over and compromise with them on
Syria, nukes and missile defense).
So here are a few more questions for the White House: While President Obama was on the phone for an hour, did his national security advisor Tom Donilon or any other aide interrupt the call or slip him a piece of paper to inform him about what was happening in Benghazi? Or was President Obama out of the loop for at least an hour as events unfolded and decisions were made? On the other hand, national security staff were obviously with the president during and immediately after the phone callotherwise how could they have put out their statement right away? Surely his aides told the president about what was happening in Benghazi. Was there then no discussion of what was or what wasn't being done to help, pursuant to the president's first directive that everything possible be done?"
“.....Col. David Hunt, a Fox News military analyst, said the military could have had jets in the air within 20 minutes and forces on the ground within two hours...”
“........................By Sept. 16, the national intelligence director changed his assessment. Mr. Clapper abandoned the spontaneous explanation and told the White House that the attack was a planned terrorist operation, a U.S. intelligence official told The Times.
No longer in Libya at the time of the attack, Mr. Nordstrom and Col. Wood later tried to assess the bureaucratic battle they fought to retain more security assets in Benghazi.
We were fighting a losing battle, Col. Wood said. We couldnt even keep what we had. We were not even allowed to keep what we had.
Mr. Nordstrom recalled a phone call with a regional director asking for 12 additional agents.
His response to that was, Youre asking for the sun, moon and the stars, the security officer said. And my response to him, You know what makes [this] the most frustrating about this assignment? Its not the hardships. Its not the gunfire. Its not the threats. Its dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me.
And I ended it by saying, For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building, Mr. Nordstrom said.”
Read more: Lack of strike force impeded Benghazi response - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/28/lack-of-strike-force-impeded-benghazi-response/#ixzz2AfeYPd9j
This is what happens when a country is poorly managed regarding its finances as well as politics, it becomes weak, also in the in the eyes of its opponents and allows them to step in and dictate their terms. Probably some one who had the ability and was willing to back up its threat told us “Don’t go there unless there will be hell to pay” So like an obedient dog with its tail between his legs we turned a one-eighty and let these bastards kill our ambassador.
O. may not be the brightest but I believe he is not down right stupid either and probably after he and Panetta just about chewed off their fingernails concluded that this threat was no bluff and decided to let them have our ambassador. On the other hand, had O. given it a GO his re-election would have been almost guarantied. So for a narcissist like him, something or some one left a lasting impression and made a believer out of him and a fool of our once great nation. These are the results of unbridled socialism coming home to roost and unless some drastic changes are implemented this was just a taste of what is to come.
Well this is just my take
The current crop of amateurs in charge of our nation are the 50-year product of our bereft culture....too many cartoons, too much Ritalin, a stunted education, emasculated males and a lack of morals....the result: a generation of incompetents who can’t manage their way out of a wet paper bag.
.....(Cont’d)........and meanwhile, our Congressmen and Senators are sitting around on their duffs wondering which applicant for page-boy they’ll support, or writing letters of congratulation to centenarians, or where they’re going for lunch. Get out your crayons, you lunch pails, and color me “Angry Purple”!
The indecisive excuse for not responding immediately to the Benghazi raid is propaganda. Government has contingency plans for everything. All they had to do was execute the procedure correctly. Leon Peonetta’s excuse of “not being able to access the threat” is painfully wrong.
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